Thaidream Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 The fact is that there are many sham marriages in Thailand (and other countries) simply for the purpose of obtaining a Visa. Obviously, illegal. I have heard of various different nationalities that have been busted by the police over several decades. That is why the paperwork for the marriage extension is somewhat more complicated and obtaining a visa at a Thai Embassy based on marriage is being tightened up with police reports and financials. It wasn't that long ago that a Chinese gang was busted in Nong Khai Province for something similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarZaid Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 10 hours ago, ezzra said: Words to the wise, if the authorities will dig deeper, the y will find that those 'dark skinned men ' are up to their necks in all sorts of shady and illegal activities in this country, and they're numbered by the thousands.... are you listening wise men and women of the government? probably not.... You betcha ... except for the odd academic or doctor and diplomat, they got no business here except some sorta scam . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 3 minutes ago, Thaidream said: That is why the paperwork for the marriage extension is somewhat more complicated and obtaining a visa at a Thai Embassy based on marriage Good sorry maybe another topic but l wish the UK government would adopt the the same immigration procedures as Thailand. 90 day reports for immigrates and exit visa for popping over to e.g. Syria etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedtripler Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 1 minute ago, OmarZaid said: You betcha ... except for the odd academic or doctor and diplomat, they got no business here except some sorta scam . . . there is a bunch of them who sell weed 7 nights a week at the mouth of soi 13 they dont bother thais but they always ask the farangs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bastos60 Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, Thaidream said: No , I am talking about a Chinese gang that managed to obtain extensions and other documentation based upon sham marriages. This involved payment to Thai ladies and the forging of some documents. If these things keep happening- there will be more tightening of extension requirements and documentation to even get a Non O visa. They might want to start with tightening of the marriage laws between foreigners and Thai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laab Muu Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 7 minutes ago, Bastos60 said: They might want to start with tightening of the marriage laws between foreigners and Thai. Why not just make it illegal for foreigners and Thais to marry eachother? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiSoLowSoNoSo Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 6 minutes ago, Laab Muu said: Why not just make it illegal for foreigners and Thais to marry eachother? Would be a disaster for Esaan, no more Sinsot's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 8 minutes ago, Laab Muu said: Why not just make it illegal for foreigners and Thais to marry eachother? I hope that was a little post nudge or joke, people should be able to marry anyone in the meaning of what it was originally for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Off topic posts and offensive posts have been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PremiumLane Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 10 hours ago, ezzra said: Words to the wise, if the authorities will dig deeper, the y will find that those 'dark skinned men ' are up to their necks in all sorts of shady and illegal activities in this country, and they're numbered by the thousands.... are you listening wise men and women of the government? probably not.... and what about all the white collar criminals? They do a lot more damage to a country than a few Africans. But, I guess that doesn't fit into your old fashioned backward narrative, does it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnTheRun Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 11 hours ago, NCC1701A said: "Daily News called them a "nasty black skinned gang" in their headline." Thailand 4.0. What are they meant to call them? Things get lost in translation so probs not exacly what was originally written. Me? I'd call them dirty rip off African bastards and if anyone objects stick yer PC <deleted> where the sun dont shine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bastos60 Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 32 minutes ago, Laab Muu said: Why not just make it illegal for foreigners and Thais to marry eachother? Why not make it illegal for foreigners to enter Thailand at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxcorrigan Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 1 hour ago, giddyup said: Absolutely. You have to go through the exact same steps and satisfy the same requirements. That goes for marriage visa extension also, a new set of pictures in and around the house, witness etc.at least in Jom Tien, elsewhere maybe different, of course as interpretation run differently throughout the Kingdom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bastos60 Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 18 minutes ago, PremiumLane said: and what about all the white collar criminals? They do a lot more damage to a country than a few Africans. But, I guess that doesn't fit into your old fashioned backward narrative, does it? boo hoo......need a hanky to dry those tears? What is the narrative here? That Nigerians again embarrass their own country. It is these few criminals that put their fellow nationals in bad day light. The narrative is that once the nationality Nigerian is mentioned people shrug it off with "ofcourse nigerians". The narrative is that their scams and crimes are so widespread that people not even expect anything decent from them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bastos60 Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 4 minutes ago, maxcorrigan said: That goes for marriage visa extension also, a new set of pictures in and around the house, witness etc.at least in Jom Tien, elsewhere maybe different, of course as interpretation run differently throughout the Kingdom. Are you serious about needing a witness? what needs to be witnessed? That you both live together? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machiavelli Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 1 hour ago, OmarZaid said: You betcha ... except for the odd academic or doctor and diplomat, they got no business here except some sorta scam . . . And you do? Are you Thai? Its pathetic for a foreigner to lay claim to Thailand. Why don't you go back to wherever you came from if you don't like the current racial make up in Thailand. The nerve...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxcorrigan Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Just now, Bastos60 said: Are you serious about needing a witness? what needs to be witnessed? That you both live together? Absolutely, we have used the same witness twice now (the wife's aunt) they note her particulars address photo copy her house book, ask how long she has known us, do we live together etc. same questions each time! But bear in mind with marriage extension all the paperwork has to be OKed in BKK unlike retirement extension which as far as i am aware, is done in house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhys Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 now more reason for io to mess with those who are legit.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bastos60 Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Machiavelli said: And you do? Are you Thai? Its pathetic for a foreigner to lay claim to Thailand. Why don't you go back to wherever you came from if you don't like the current racial make up in Thailand. The nerve...... Why are you so easily offended? He thinks the same about his country. I think it is pathetic for you to legitimize criminal conduct based on race. Edited June 22, 2017 by Bastos60 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
friendphil Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Another whiz piece of journalistic excellence! The details explaining how it was done, and interviews with some of the women, were enthralling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bastos60 Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 17 minutes ago, maxcorrigan said: Absolutely, we have used the same witness twice now (the wife's aunt) they note her particulars address photo copy her house book, ask how long she has known us, do we live together etc. same questions each time! But bear in mind with marriage extension all the paperwork has to be OKed in BKK unlike retirement extension which as far as i am aware, is done in house. So they have to pay at least 2 people 5000 baht (wife + witness). That makes sense now why it the marriage visa is so easily abused for human trafficking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aslimversgwm Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 11 hours ago, canuckamuck said: You need more than a marriage to get a visa here. Same in the UK. Sham marriages have been a big issue there for a long time especially with those originating from the Indian subcontinent so a marriage certificate is no guarantee of citizenship or extended visa stay. There is now minimum salary or other income requirements background checks made vis-a-vid cohabitation etc. Thailand should look at this as a way to guard against such fraudulent relationships Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobobo Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 12 hours ago, NCC1701A said: "Daily News called them a "nasty black skinned gang" in their headline." Thailand 4.0. A bit of a come-down from "chocolate men" 555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sydneyjed Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, Grumpy Duck said: 555 I walked through a group of the African hookers once at Sukhumvit Soi 13. Some 120 kg girl got all indignant when she asked me if I wanted to have some fun and I said no. All I wanted was a taxi. You will bump into the African girls all around Sukhumvit..corner of soi 4 Nana Plaza just after the LB clothes stall there..McDonalds just over from soi 4..seems to be more flogging their p...y than ever around there!Outside Sofitel also on a night..just down from Asok. Edited June 22, 2017 by sydneyjed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 32 minutes ago, aslimversgwm said: Same in the UK. Sham marriages have been a big issue there for a long time especially with those originating from the Indian subcontinent so a marriage certificate is no guarantee of citizenship or extended visa stay. There is now minimum salary or other income requirements background checks made vis-a-vid cohabitation etc. Thailand should look at this as a way to guard against such fraudulent relationships people from India came to and went to that road place in Bkk where you can get anything before going UK. only joking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamini Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 13 hours ago, bbi1 said: Ah, so that's the secret how those African drug dealers, pimps and scammers use to stay in BKK for a long time. I think that that could also apply to a lot of Westerners living in Pattaya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakeupplease Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Headline does wonders for racial harmony and the big joke is there are a few dark skinned faces on that staircase to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinsdale Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user82374298374 Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 14 hours ago, Bluespunk said: For pity's sake. Truth hurts, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 8 minutes ago, disambiguated said: Truth hurts, eh? Racist bigotry does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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