U.S. submits formal notice of withdrawal from Paris climate pact

[rooster59]

U.S. submits formal notice of withdrawal from Paris climate pact

By Valerie Volcovici

 

FILE PHOTO: U.S. President Donald Trump pauses as he announces his decision that the United States will withdraw from the landmark Paris Climate Agreement, in the Rose Garden of the White House in Washington, U.S., June 1, 2017. REUTERS/Kevin Lamarque

 

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. State Department has officially informed the United Nations it will withdraw from the Paris Climate Agreement in a document issued on Friday, but left the door open to re-engaging if the terms improved for the United States.

 

The State Department said in a press release the United States would continue to participate in United Nations climate change meetings during the withdrawal process, which is expected to take at least three years.

 

"The United States supports a balanced approach to climate policy that lowers emissions while promoting economic growth and ensuring energy security," the department said in the release. 

 

President Donald Trump announced his decision to withdraw from the Paris deal in June, saying the accord would have cost America trillions of dollars, killed jobs, and hindered the oil, gas, coal and manufacturing industries.

 

But he also, at the time, said he would be open to renegotiating the deal, which was agreed by nearly 200 nations over the course of years - drawing ridicule from world and business leaders who said that would be impossible.

 

During a visit last month to Paris to meet French President Emmanuel Macron, the two discussed the deal and Trump told reporters "Something could happen with respect to the Paris accords, let's see what happens."

 

"As the President indicated in his June 1 announcement and subsequently, he is open to re-engaging in the Paris Agreement if the United States can identify terms that are more favorable to it, its businesses, its workers, its people, and its taxpayers," the State Department said in its press release about the formal notice of withdrawal.

 

Republican U.S. congressional leaders have backed Trump's move to exit the accord. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, for example, said it was "another significant blow to the Obama administration's assault on domestic energy production and jobs".

 

But numerous business leaders have called the move a blow to international efforts to combat climate change, and a missed opportunity to capture growth in the emerging clean energy industry.

 

The United States, under former President Barack Obama, had pledged as part of the Paris accord to cut U.S. greenhouse gas emissions by as much as 28 percent from 2005 levels by 2025 to help slow global warming.

 

The earliest date for the United States to completely withdraw from the agreement is Nov. 4, 2020, around the time of the next U.S. presidential election.

 

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2017-08-05

[nasanews]

More pollution and destruction to motherland.

[khwaibah]

President DUCHES BAG at his best.

[binjalin]

Terrible news by the nationalist megalomaniac and USA should be ashamed.

[Jingthing]

American dark ages.

[darksidedog]

3 hours ago, rooster59 said:

Republican U.S. congressional leaders have backed Trump's move to exit the accord. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, for example, said it was "another significant blow to the Obama administration's assault on domestic energy production and jobs".

Clear evidence that faced with 2 options, save the world and maybe make some money at the same time, or welcome the end of the world with guaranteed profit, we know how the Republicans are going to vote. Especially if they can give Obama a kick in the nuts at the same time.

[Jdiddy]

Good to hear, the climate change wealth transfer and confiscation hoax hits another roadblock

[nasanews]

Elizabeth “Betsy” Southerland had worked at the EPA for thirty years. But on Tuesday she resigned from her post as director of science and technology in the Office of Water, claiming “the environmental field is suffering from the temporary triumph of myth over truth.”

[Scott]

Off-topic, inflammatory post removed.  

[ilostmypassword]

1 hour ago, tonray said:

Unless Mueller finds something AND Congress is willing to do something about it, he may be President in 2021 too.

 

Sobering article here:

 

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/8/4/16085892/trump-support-battleground-districts

 

 

That's about congressional races.

[Jonnapat]

Truly sad times for the USA. Words cannot express the idiocy of this President.. 

[maewang99]

but doesn't he need the UN.... that sponsored the Paris Accord.... to pass North Korean sanctions?

and the Congress... to pass an expanded debt limit.... which will require each and every Tea Party vote.... or whatever they call themselves now

he must be a very great president. 




 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Srikcir]

6 hours ago, rooster59 said:

withdraw from the Paris Climate Agreement in a document issued on Friday, but left the door open to re-engaging if the terms improved for the United States.

Trump said he would negotiate a better deal but just walks away instead. Will his next book be titled "The Art of Cowardice?"

 

[Jingthing]

2 minutes ago, Srikcir said:

Trump said he would negotiate a better deal but just walks away instead. Will his next book be titled "The Art of Cowardice?"

 

He's a dangerous moronic clown with a well armed base. He should be removed ASAP but it won't be easy. 

[dunroaming]

This is a win for Trump and his knuckle dragging supporters.  It  is utterly irresponsible and is being condemned by the whole world which is actually totally in keeping with this Presidents lunacy.  It re-affirms what we all know about Trump and I am sure focusses everyone to bring this circus to a close as soon as possible.

[farcanell]

Big polluters rejoice at trumps new initiative... good one don.

 

the other 199 nations are wrong... America first... <deleted> everyone else

 

ironically, he chooses the rose garden to endorse his pollution making policy

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[metisdead]

An offensive troll post has been removed as well as the replies. 

[fakename]

Favorit phrase, "lets see what happens"

[sirineou]

If I understand this correctly, 

    First The withdrawal from the  Paris climate pact is a non event, simply red meat for Trump's base.

Implementation of its provisions are are voluntary . so if Trump did not like it's provisions all he simply has to do is not implement any of them. No need to withdraw .

    Second  the withdrawal does not take place until after   Trumps first term.  It is questionable that Trump will finish  his first term, never mind win a second.

Simply a tempest in a teacup.

 

[farcanell]

29 minutes ago, sirineou said:

 

Simply a tempest in a teacup.

 

Perhaps.... but will there be any tea in the cup, once the storm has passed?

 

"lets see what happens" as a policy, doesn't sound like a well thought out kind of strategy, Which appears to be becoming a hallmark move of this president.

[sirineou]

3 minutes ago, farcanell said:

Perhaps.... but will there be any tea in the cup, once the storm has passed?

 

"lets see what happens" as a policy, doesn't sound like a well thought out kind of strategy, Which appears to be becoming a hallmark move of this president.

its unfortunate for the US and the world that we have to endure this buffoon for the next three years and six months , an early exit will only see him replaced by the VP who is IMO even more dangerous

But we did elect him. which IMO is a more disturbing thing. 

[Jingthing]

It's just another and a YUGE example of the clown potus pissing away U.S. global leadership. I realize many people will be celebrating that but be careful what you wish for.

[Thakkar]

This is how the US gets to LOUDLY not implement what it could have just as easily quietly not implemented.

 

Is there any other reason for this action, except sheer bloody mindedness?

 

T

[farcanell]

21 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

It's just another and a YUGE example of the clown potus pissing away U.S. global leadership. I realize many people will be celebrating that but be careful what you wish for.

I'm pretty sure that even the "average joe" will be able to see that it is just one man... one presidency, that is damaging the global leadership status / position of the POTUS, within the "free" world, and that this can be "restored" by a new administration.... lol... fingers crossed... or as the don would say "let's see what happens" 

[Ahab]

8 minutes ago, farcanell said:

I'm pretty sure that even the "average joe" will be able to see that it is just one man... one presidency, that is damaging the global leadership status / position of the POTUS, within the "free" world, and that this can be "restored" by a new administration.... lol... fingers crossed... or as the don would say "let's see what happens" 

Or maybe, just maybe, this is what happens when one President signs a treaty and does not seek the approval of the senate as is supposed to occur with a treaty. One President agreeing to something without senate approval is what allowed this to occur. The Paris Climate Accords were a joke to begin with, unenforceable, and with basically no measurable difference in global warning. So what was the point? Not so good at lessening temperature, but very, very good at spreading the wealth of richer nations to less rich nations. Follow the money, the Paris accords were more about that than anything to do with lessening the increasing temperature of the planet.

[farcanell]

10 minutes ago, Ahab said:

Or maybe, just maybe, this is what happens when one President signs a treaty and does not seek the approval of the senate as is supposed to occur with a treaty. One President agreeing to something without senate approval is what allowed this to occur. The Paris Climate Accords were a joke to begin with, unenforceable, and with basically no measurable difference in global warning. So what was the point? Not so good at lessening temperature, but very, very good at spreading the wealth of richer nations to less rich nations. Follow the money, the Paris accords were more about that than anything to do with lessening the increasing temperature of the planet.

Admittedly, I don't know that I'm convinced that global warming is as linked to pollution, as "they"'say... but I do know that pollution needs to be reigned in, however possible.... and I do know that getting 200 nations to agree on one thing, is a very hard thing to do.

 

people are breathing this crap in, and it does effect them.... ergo reducing pollution is a good thing

 

we bitch about the pollution on pattayas beach nearly every week, of late... it's the same thing by a different name

 

trump has (for many who will choose to read between the lines) just given a thumbs up to unrestrained pollution.... irresponsible... totally irresponsible... 

 

be the best that you can can be. (especially when others will follow your example)

[sirineou]

22 minutes ago, Ahab said:

Or maybe, just maybe, this is what happens when one President signs a treaty and does not seek the approval of the senate as is supposed to occur with a treaty. One President agreeing to something without senate approval is what allowed this to occur. The Paris Climate Accords were a joke to begin with, unenforceable, and with basically no measurable difference in global warning. So what was the point? Not so good at lessening temperature, but very, very good at spreading the wealth of richer nations to less rich nations. Follow the money, the Paris accords were more about that than anything to do with lessening the increasing temperature of the planet.

"Treaties are a serious legal undertaking both in international and domestic law. Internationally, once in force, treaties are binding on the parties and become part of international law."

https://www.loc.gov/rr/main/govdocsguide/TreatyDefinition.html

The Paris agreement is non binding. not international law and as such did not require congressional approval.

Tramp's announcement not to do that which was not required of him to do  is nonsensical.  There are many other issues associated with this agreement  but for the purpose of this thread the above suffice . 

[I Luv Me]

My experience since the eighties:
1980-1990. Couldn't predict the climate like we used to.
1990-2000. Happy to go along with global warming and C02 theory.
2000-2010. Not global warming sometimes global freezing. Now the narrative is Climate Change.
Ok can go with that but beginning to become a doubter.
2010-present.
Could Trump be better right about this?
I know it's a tantamount to heresy!


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[Grouse]

9 hours ago, Jonnapat said:

Truly sad times for the USA. Words cannot express the idiocy of this President.. 

Moronic?

[Jingthing]

Or maybe, just maybe, this is what happens when one President signs a treaty and does not seek the approval of the senate as is supposed to occur with a treaty. One President agreeing to something without senate approval is what allowed this to occur. The Paris Climate Accords were a joke to begin with, unenforceable, and with basically no measurable difference in global warning. So what was the point? Not so good at lessening temperature, but very, very good at spreading the wealth of richer nations to less rich nations. Follow the money, the Paris accords were more about that than anything to do with lessening the increasing temperature of the planet.

That's what happens when you elect an irrational president.