Myanmar men appeal against death sentences over British murders in Thailand

[AGareth2]

shame they didn't test the blood for DNA

[sambum]

23 hours ago, greenchair said:

Who cares the name. 

Nothing to do with this case. 

That issue should have been dealt with by the defense 2 years ago. 

Now we're all hoping the supreme court will uphold the verdict. 

Some are hoping the death penalty will be overturned because of their age. But since the human rights lawyers didn't ask for that, highly unlikely. I guess their next hope is a royal pardon. Let's hope they don't stuff that up with nonsense, someone else did it. 

"Now we're all hoping the supreme court will uphold the verdict." 

 

You've gone surprisingly quiet since myself, Island lover and a few others that have their names down as having shown an interest, asked you to tell us who the  "we" is that you refer to? Obviously JLC is one, but is your silence due to the length of time it is taking you to find more people to add to your "we" list?

[AGareth2]

4 minutes ago, sambum said:

the length of time it is taking you to find more people to add to your "we" list?

it is probably a very wee list

[StealthEnergiser]

1 hour ago, rockingrobin said:

Mon claimed an employee had helped to wash blood of Sean on the night of the murders, and this prompted the  questioning of Mcanna by Mon and off duty policeman in the bar

Mr Woraphan said on the night of the murder, one of his employee identified as Jok saw so much blood on the face and body of Mr Sean, so he helped to wash it out for him.

 

 

[JLCrab]

39 minutes ago, sambum said:

"Now we're all hoping the supreme court will uphold the verdict." 

 

You've gone surprisingly quiet since myself, Island lover and a few others that have their names down as having shown an interest, asked you to tell us who the  "we" is that you refer to? Obviously JLC is one, but is your silence due to the length of time it is taking you to find more people to add to your "we" list?

JLC is not one. I have said I would like to see the Supreme Court rule to uphold the verdict, reduce the prison sentence to time served, and deport the B2.

Edited September 1, 2017 by JLCrab

[StealthEnergiser]

1 hour ago, bannork said:

I think the underage girl incident was mentioned much much later, some girl Sean met in the UK on the internet a few years before if I remember right. What the headman or bar owner brought up was the blood on the guitar which Sean claimed was due to a motorbike accident a few days before.

An expert looking at the spray pattern might be able to throw further light on that claim.

If the above poster is right then why would Sean remain silent now? 

Of course if Sean was involved, his continual silence is more understandable, if still morally repugnant.

I can't find that info about the underage girls  but was quite sure the headman had info on sean and showed the media I could be wrong maybe somebody else remembers.

[JLCrab]

August 22, 2017

Supreme Court Thailand

Edited September 1, 2017 by JLCrab

[Khun Han]

5 hours ago, JLCrab said:

I am revising the statement of 4 minutes above: That was a statement of fact by the Queens Bench Court .

 

I expect it was a statement of "fact" provided to the court by the Thai authorities, which was necessarily at the time made to the court by Mr Justice Green. It was, of course, a "fact" which was rejected by the Norfolk coroner.

[bannork]

4 minutes ago, StealthEnergiser said:

I can't find that info about the underage girls  but was quite sure the headman had info on sean and showed the media I could be wrong maybe somebody else remembers.

I think it was a few days after the murders- a week later like this link.http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/revealed-scot-who-fled-thai-4306609

[JLCrab]

10 minutes ago, Khun Han said:

 

I expect it was a statement of "fact" provided to the court by the Thai authorities, which was necessarily at the time made to the court by Mr Justice Green. It was, of course, a "fact" which was rejected by the Norfolk coroner.

That was a fact as presented by the Queens Bench.

 

• Days later, Hannah was raped and murdered alongside David Miller, 24
• Her mother made the comments in moving statement read about at inquest
• http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3437235/Heartbroken-mother-backpacker-murdered-Thailand-reveals-never-wanted-daughter-mind-up.html
• Report 8 FEB 2016 on Norfolk Coroner's inquest

Edited September 1, 2017 by JLCrab

[Khun Han]

Just now, JLCrab said:

That was a fact as presented by the Queens Bench.

 

It was first presented to the UK authorities by the Thai authorities, and then passed on to the relevant UK court. In the absence of contradictory information, government-to-government information is necessarily accepted without question. The Norfolk coroner, after performing a post mortem examination on Hannah, concluded that Hannah had not been raped. It's all about procedure and timelines Crab. I've pointed out the flaw in your reasoning, but I know you'll carry on presenting your outdated information because It's the type of tactic you use, so I'll leave you to it for a while then correct you again a bit later on .

[JLCrab]

It was in the 8 FEB 2016 Daily Mail report on the Coroner's rerport

And I don't care about your points.

[StealthEnergiser]

1 hour ago, bannork said:

I think the underage girl incident was mentioned much much later, some girl Sean met in the UK on the internet a few years before if I remember right. What the headman or bar owner brought up was the blood on the guitar which Sean claimed was due to a motorbike accident a few days before.

An expert looking at the spray pattern might be able to throw further light on that claim.

If the above poster is right then why would Sean remain silent now? 

Of course if Sean was involved, his continual silence is more understandable, if still morally repugnant.

He did go away and change his name it's easier to hide for  some people than use a bit of courage and tell the truth.

[StealthEnergiser]

[StealthEnergiser]

hard to know what to believe but lying is very possible.

 

Devastated Sean wrote on Facebook: "My mate Dave lost his life on koh Tao. We were meant to meet up when we found out we were both there at the same time but I fell asleep.

"He was killed that night. I feel f****** terrible.

"I loved you so f****** much brother. I know you tried to save her.

"You are the most honourable guy I’ve ever met. I will miss you terribly.

"I’m sorry I didn’t come out with you that night. Really my heart is breaking." 

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/i-know-you-tried-save-4267458

Edited September 1, 2017 by StealthEnergiser

[EyeOfRa]

25 minutes ago, StealthEnergiser said:

 

Sean's knowledge of, and possible involvement in, the various unsavoury and criminal activities on the island would be sufficient reason for many to be happy to fund his swift departure, on condition he never "sings".

[sambum]

1 hour ago, JLCrab said:

JLC is not one. I have said I would like to see the Supreme Court rule to uphold the verdict, reduce the prison sentence to time served, and deport the B2.

"Now we're all hoping the supreme court will uphold the verdict." 

 

"JLC is not one.I have said I would like to see the Supreme Court rule to uphold the verdict,"

 

Same, same, but different?

 

 

[JLCrab]

Yes I believe that the Prosecution did not prove its case beyond a reasonable doubt but I think it is likely that the Supreme Court will uphold the conviction so I would hope they would just say 'time served' and deport.

... and it's been fun playing tag team with you guys today but it's a long weekend in the USA .

Edited September 1, 2017 by JLCrab

[balo]

9 hours ago, StealthEnergiser said:

As soon as nomsod was being hunted there were an attacking group of posters getting one thread after another shut down .  

Nomsod Nomsod Nomsod is where all the troll attacks started from was you hired ?if so who hired you and your mates  greenchair ?????

 

Nonsense, I as many others have been following this case and even if Greenchair is stretching it , its not a conspiracy to protect Nomsod. Why even mention his  name , he has been cleared. 

 

[EyeOfRa]

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Why even mention his  name , he has been cleared.

How so?

[balo]

5 minutes ago, EyeOfRa said:

How so?

He did a DNA test in public ,and we have CCTV from the university . Good enough for me. I don't buy the rest of theories , that he might have been on the island. And that the RTP in Bangkok were faking the DNA test.   No evidence at all.  So many other suspects in this case . 

 

 

[EyeOfRa]

Image source: khaosodenglish.com

[StealthEnergiser]

7 minutes ago, balo said:

He did a DNA test in public ,and we have CCTV from the university . Good enough for me. I don't buy the rest of theories , that he might have been on the island. And that the RTP in Bangkok were faking the DNA test.   No evidence at all.  So many other suspects in this case . 

 

 

I guess you also accept the way DNA tests were carried out on the B2 ?

[iReason]

[balo]

10 minutes ago, StealthEnergiser said:

guess you also accept the way DNA tests were carried out on the B2 ?

No that's a different story . 

We all know the case was not handled well on KT.  

 

[rockingrobin]

15 minutes ago, balo said:

He did a DNA test in public ,and we have CCTV from the university . Good enough for me. I don't buy the rest of theories , that he might have been on the island. And that the RTP in Bangkok were faking the DNA test.   No evidence at all.  So many other suspects in this case . 

 

 

In court the investigator testified that after requesting Nomsod's test results and report , he never received them .

[xylophone]

1 hour ago, StealthEnergiser said:

IMO the handshake of a frightened man who is pleased that he has been let go/freed.

 

It indicates that he is thankful for that, although still fearful of the power of the handshake recipient.

[iReason]

Two days after Lt Gen Panya Mamen, senior southern police commander's report

said the suspects were related to the village leader on the island of Koh Tao:

 

September 25, 2014

“Pol Gen Somyot pointed to groundless reports posted on social media that obstructed the investigation

and confused the investigators.”

 

“We haven't targeted anyone and have not concluded whether the murderers are still in the area,'' he said.”

 

“The mystery surrounding the identities of the killers had grown over reports,

which he denied, that a suspect had fled the island and was hiding in Bangkok: "I was surprised at the news.”

http://www.thephuketnews.com/phuket-police-blame-koh-tao-probe-delays-on-social-media-48872.php

 

 

Edited September 1, 2017 by iReason

[iReason]

September 30, 2014

“A Thai man said he was beaten up by police after he turned down a police offer of reward money if he agreed to be a witness in the murder case of two British tourists in Thailand’s tourist island of Koh Tao, southern Surat Thani Province”

 

“During the interrogation, the police investigators asked him to agree to pretend to have knowledge of the incident, Pornprasit said.”

 

“The police allegedly offered him a 700,000 baht reward and guaranteed him witness status.”

http://prachatai.org/english/node/4373

[iReason]

October 30, 2014

“Royal Thai Police commissioner Pol Gen Somyot Phumphanmuang today warned of tough legal action for anyone who posted false information on the social network criticizing the handling of the Koh Tao murder case by the police which he said could cause rift and a threat to economy.”

 

“Pol Gen Somyot, however, made clear that the DNA test on the son would have no impact on the police case file which has been finished with all circumstantial and forensic evidence submitted to the prosecutor for indictment of the two Myanmar suspects.”

 

“He said he has designated the computer crime suppression police to investigate and bring the poster to trial as the post has hurt tourism and economy.”

http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/national-police-chief-warns-distorted-information-koh-tao-murder

 

 

Edited September 1, 2017 by iReason