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wavemanwww Newbie

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I feel very saddened for the bar owner. Tries to make a living and "an ex copper is involved" In short not paying sufficient money in brown envelope" LOS or Land of corrupt.... mmm police?

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Jimmyjames120 Rookie Member

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4 minutes ago, sangsom69 said:

You've been watching too much Sons of Anarchy, pal. Watch the original video and see the way they ran like chickens when fronted 1 on 1. Bunch of bullying cowards. Glueing locks is about their level - juvenile

Never heard of it....

Jonmarleesco Gold Member

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8 hours ago, webfact said:

She claimed to have been told by local cops that they were satisfied that the bikers had all offered "wais" at the police station and had been allowed free.

Oh, dear, the Thais and their ways. And at what point did wais from foreigners qualify?

snowgard Silver Member

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7 hours ago, sklmeeera said:

This gang are actually the Nomads . It is common knowledge that they are Hells Angels rejects . So if someone wants to  join the HA and is perceived as a wimp or too effeminate they are directed to join the Nomads . This is why the name Gay Nomads and more recently Gaymads has stuck . Because they are predominitely homo and not badass  enough to be in the HA .

Can you tell me how you come to this conclusion? This is complete nonsens!!!

Nomads are the name for bikers stray around and not members of the local chapter.
This MC is a new prospective chapter from the Outlaws. About this they call their self Outlaws Nomads.

That's all.

 

And yes, all 1% MC's have members who are not criminals. 

mogo51 Senior Member

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What a pathetic bunch the Surin Police are, but at least their wallets are full.  Ample evidence of unprovoked attacks on the bar owner to charge and convict.  Weak as.

joeyg Senior Member

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4 hours ago, cyberfarang said:

If people do not have the proper government authority and paperwork to own and run a business in Thailand, do you really think their businesses should be given full protective rights under the laws they are breaking at the tax payers expense.? Come off it, this is a joke.

 

If the roles were reversed and it involved a foreigner in your country, I guarantee your opinions would be different. 

Honestly I don't give a flying <deleted> either way...

joeyg Senior Member

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2 hours ago, LannaGuy said:

".. the bikers had all offered "wais" at the police station and had been allowed free."

 

So that's ok then... and Wai this country has no law enforcement

Than you for your opinion.

mettech Explorer Member

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It make me wonder why the police allow them to do what they please??? perhaps money under the table as usual, and too bad the owner has no powerful friends with fire power.

Ozfatboy Apprentice Member

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Am I missing something, I don't recall reading anywhere where there was a suggestion by the bikers told this guy he should close his bar. Perhaps by their actions it could be inferred that he should not be in the bar business or are they just setting an old score as it appears he was the sole target. 

 

I am not convinced this is a issue over closing down a competitor, especially if he sold the bar to a locally connected Thai. In addition, how many local expats would start drinking and feel comfortable at the biker bar if he closed down? 

 

It would be nice if we could hear from him or perhaps others that might have been in the bar who actually heard what happened.

cyberfarang Senior Member

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3 hours ago, nausea said:

This whole sorry saga, as reported, reminds me of High Noon; that the guy's an ex-copper confronting "outlaw" bikers seems particularly apt:

 

 

 

Here's another cinematic gem that came to mind for a not so diplomatic solution:

 

 

Of course you need to transpose the location, the characters, and the accoutrements, to make them relevant, if you get me drift, savvy.

 

Unfortunately, life isn't always like it is in the movies, or even books:

 

 

Are you really comparing High Noon and the gangster character of James Cagney with that of those bunch of W. Anchors? James Cagney was one of my greatest heroes of all time.

 

 

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JRUSA Rookie Member

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1 hour ago, snowgard said:

Can you tell me how you come to this conclusion? This is complete nonsens!!!

Nomads are the name for bikers stray around and not members of the local chapter.
This MC is a new prospective chapter from the Outlaws. About this they call their self Outlaws Nomads.

That's all.

 

And yes, all 1% MC's have members who are not criminals. 

Umm looks gay to me...

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tandor Gold Member

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10 hours ago, inThailand said:

It's good to know falangs can also wai to get out of criminal mischief.

..i think there might be some folding money between the two clasped hands..i might be wrong.

sawadeeken Advanced Member

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I think he should contact the police and pay for off duty armed police to provide security for a while.... or apply for a licence to carry a gun at home and the bar......... Maybe can even the odds.............

mommysboy Ruby Member

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Like to know if there are other aspects to this story, eg, maybe ex-copper just needs to be around bad guys'. 

 

But on the face of it, it seems the gang are free to continue intimidating him as long as they wai an apology!

sawadeeken Advanced Member

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9 minutes ago, Kadilo said:

Seems a very keen interest in Gays in this thread......


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If so..... They could probably right --- I agree 'with' percentages and seldom regret it.....

Likely a 'gay-pussy' gang who Wai police and travel in groups (and try their best to be Maucho as well)......... LOL.......

Edited to add..... What happened -- Yesterdays post made te think the Army was looking into it rather than police.....

sawadeeken Advanced Member

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24 minutes ago, Kadilo said:

Seems a very keen interest in Gays in this thread......


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Probably something 'gays' would notice and most of us 'not notice' ...... But.... What the heck..... it seems a fitting 'tag' for 'this biker gang' in this topic....... LOL.......

nausea Gold Member

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1 hour ago, cyberfarang said:

Are you really comparing High Noon and the gangster character of James Cagney with that of those bunch of W. Anchors? James Cagney was one of my greatest heroes of all time.

I'm a Humphrey Bogart man myself, but I think Cagney's pretty cool too. The comparisons I'm making are fairly obvious I would've thought, and it certainly doesn't involve comparing James Cagney with a "bunch" of anything; it's all about the individual (Gary Cooper, James Cagney) against the group. 

snowgard Silver Member

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11 hours ago, VocalNeal said:

My take? The bar owner has/had banned one of the bikie guys, probably publicly. Loss of face! So bikie and mates open new bar and intimidate original guy out of business. 

 

Should not have banned the guy in the first place?

Why? As the owner of a bar you have the right to decision WHO is welcome in your bar.

But in real YOU don't know what happen before. Same we all here.

It can be also that the Outlaws are jelous that no one come in their Biker Bar and the other bar had all the time a lot of visitors. 

sawadeeken Advanced Member

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3 minutes ago, snowgard said:

Why? As the owner of a bar you have the right to decision WHO is welcome in your bar.

But in real YOU don't know what happen before. Same we all here.

It can be also that the Outlaws are jelous that no one come in their Biker Bar and the other bar had all the time a lot of visitors. 

If you read the topic a lot as I did you will see the part where the biker was banned because he got drunk in the bar a few previous visits and tried abusing other 'regular' customers....... HE HAS JUST CAUSE  to ban the first one........... and most bar owners would do the same to anyone who can't control 'their drink'....... 

I would and I admire him for sticking up for his 'rights'.... It sucks that 'the Cops' can be 'paid' to look the other way............ BUT...... TIT............. (We can stay or leave..... and I am debating it now)

farcanell Rookie Member

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I find it rather disturbing that some members defend the illegal and intimidating action that is being discussed.... shame on you (if it applies)... "outlaw" says it all... even claiming to be an outlaw ( patch wearing does that) speaks to an attitude

 

speaking up for these thugs is ok, if you similarly speak up for other criminals (or accused) committing thefts rapes and murders... or be known as a hypocrite. (But then, to speak up on their behalf is contemptible anyway) 

 

yes I did hang with bikers in my early 20's (coffin cheaters WA) which I'm not proud of nowadays

 

yes I have been unfortunate enough to having been attacked in a bar by bikers, years after hanging with some ( nomads QLD)

 

yes it is stupid to thump ones chest and proclaim that you would retailiate

 

yes it is pathetic that the police do nothing and accept a wai to resolve the issue... probably because they are cowards ( this is probably the saddest part of the story, but not a surprise)

 

so come on guys, don't assume others know nothing... and don't defend people who intimidate a guy ( or guys/ gals whatever) who is running a legal business... and don't blame the victim who has the right... (nay, responsibility to his clientele) to refuse service to those he deems undesirable.

 

normally I can find something funny or contentious to post about... but some of the responses here today have given me a reality slap in the face... so very disappointing guys.

chrisinth Ruby Member

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8 hours ago, car720 said:

The guys an ex copper.  He should know full well how to go after them.:cowboy:

The guy was a policeman for less than 3 years, in another country in the 1970's. Not what I would call seasoned.

 

Really don't know why this was even mentioned in the other thread.

 

"Lee was a policeman between 1976 and 1979"

 

With the above said, I do have respect for the owner for banning the guy in the first place (if that was the root of the problem) if he was being a danger to his locals, it does take balls to do that. But perhaps he should have taken it a step further and explained the reason why to the chapter leader. If indeed it is actually a chapter..................:wink:

 

A lot of people are making light of the gluing of the locks. This is another form of psychological intimidation and small things like this can become the straw that breaks the back. Not to be ignored or indeed made fun off.

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