I was scammed by a foreigner. Can I name and shame here?

[3421abc]

So I was scammed by a foreigner living in Thailand and I would like to share my story and name the person so people are aware and dont fall victims.

Specific question is

Can I name him here at Thaivisa.com forum?

I do not mind getting sued in civil court for libel. 

[Stradavarius37]

No

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[observer90210]

Make a full draft of your story with details on what, how, when, who and how much!...and copy paste by PM to those who are interested.....could be a way out not to get into trouble....

[Crossy]

Absolutely not I'm afraid.

 

Of course there's nothing to stop you posting your story, just no names on the public forum.

 

Just to clarify, defamation / libel is a criminal offence here, custodial sentences are not unknown. To publicly name the person would be unwise to say the least.

 

[ubonjoe]

No

From the Forum Rules

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6) You will not post comments that could be reasonably construed as defamation or libel.

Defamation is the issuance of a statement about another person or business which causes that person to suffer harm. It does not have to be false to be defamatory. Libel is when the defamatory statement is published either in a drawing, painting, cinematography, film, picture or letters made visible by any means, or any other recording instruments, recording picture or letters, or by broadcasting or spreading picture, or by propagation by any other means. Defamation is both a civil and criminal charge in Thailand.

 

[observer90210]

Also with consideration to the strong defamation/libel issues....those who post comments, when in Thailand, on hotels/restaurants for instance, on well known travel "Advisor" forms  ... can also get into trouble if their experience is not in favour of the venue. Or am I wrong?

[tonray]

Handle it the old fashioned way....man to man.

[7by7]

15 minutes ago, observer90210 said:

Also with consideration to the strong defamation/libel issues....those who post comments, when in Thailand, on hotels/restaurants for instance, on well known travel "Advisor" forms  ... can also get into trouble if their experience is not in favour of the venue. Or am I wrong?

 Possibly; but my understanding is that they could only be sued in Thailand if the site they posted on is based in Thailand.

 

In the UK, for example, the perfect defense of defamation is that what was said or published is true or fair comment. Criticism of a hotel or restaurant would come under one or the other or both; unless such criticism was shown to be based upon unjustified malice. Many other countries are the same or similar.

 

But in Thailand, as the forum rules quoted by ubonjoe above say; neither of these is a defence in Thailand. Also, it is not only the author who can be sued, it's the publishers, in this case Thai Visa, as well.

 

As for being scammed, 3421abc, always remember that if something sounds too good to be true; it probably isn't true!

[beachproperty]

Soooo ....you were scammed

 

Why not tell your story without "Naming names". If nothing else ...maybe...just maybe you'll be helping someone avoid the same scam in the future.

[Crossy]

@ubonjoe if the perp. was named in a PM in response to a no-names post would that still be illegal?

 

[blackcab]

You can write about what happened, but don't identify the person. Members can always PM you for more information in private.

[ubonjoe]

14 minutes ago, Crossy said:

@ubonjoe if the perp. was named in a PM in response to a no-names post would that still be illegal?

 

If the defamed or libeled person was made aware of the contents of the PM it could result in legal action taken.

Generally the same rules apply for PM's as they do on the open forum.

[Crossy]

Just now, ubonjoe said:

If the defamed or libeled person was made aware of the contents of the PM it could result in legal action taken.

Generally the same rules apply for PM's as they do on the open forum.

So great care is required guys.

 

[3421abc]

Ok great responses. So no name and no photo.

Can I put a link to an external site outside of thailand like YouTube or Facebook with the name and photo?

This women Chinese national who lives in Pattaya targets only foreigners and I am afraid there are quite a few.

[Ron19]

Ok great responses. So no name and no photo.
Can I put a link to an external site outside of thailand like YouTube or Facebook with the name and photo?
This women Chinese national who lives in Pattaya targets only foreigners and I am afraid there are quite a few.

No

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[ripstanley]

Go and make a complaint to the Police It may make the Thai news

[SidJames]

It would only be libelous if the statement was untrue, defamation laws in Thai are a different kettle of fish & one of the main reasons that small businesses can't compete with the big boys so for the most part we are stuck with monopolies who only seem to care about getting rid of competition.

Warren Buffet would love to be able to invest over here

[swissie]

Unless it's just another "water-buffalo" story, we want to hear the story.

 

If it's a good new intelligent scam, of course, there is the risk that "copy-cats" will enter the scene. Or "business-opportunity-brokers" will sell the concept for a buck and a half to other enterprisings ladies.

Cheers.

[Rc2702]

Geezer can't seem to figure out who the scammer is. First I believe he said him, now it's a Chinese woman. 

 

 

[blackcab]

1 hour ago, SidJames said:

It would only be libelous if the statement was untrue...

 

That's not correct in Thailand. In Thailand you can state facts that are 100 per true and accurate and you can still libel/defame someone.

 

Whether something is true or not has no relevance in law here. What matters is whether you have caused someone harm (such as loss of reputation or loss of business).

 

Defamation cases in Thailand are criminal, not civil, which means imprisonment for telling the truth is a possibility.

[DavisH]

No names are needed I think. Detail the type of scam, times and locations. It may help others avoid being scammed in the same way. 

[Rc2702]

Has someone sold you some penis miracle growth soap or something?

[Spaniel]

OK OP, you got every bodies attention, let's have the story., minus names pics etc.

[balo]

What are you waiting for , give us the story or we can close this thread. 

 

[inThailand]

Did the OP just scam us?

[johnnybgood]

Extreme Comfort bouncy flip flops.................

 

Perhaps the mods could merge with the crocs thread ?
Plenty of shame in there.       

                                                                                   

[beachproperty]

I've been scammed......by the OP

 

Oops ....did I just defame him?

[juice777]

So are we going to get this story or what?

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[beachproperty]

probably ....or What?

[ballpoint]

Join a motorcycle gang, then go around with the lads and sort her out.