Immigration warns Pattaya motorbike garages against hiring foreigners

[maximillian]

6 hours ago, silent said:

Names please !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Khun Reh in Maret on Samui and Mazda dealer Samui as well as Honda Big Wing on Phuket and Suratthani.

Edited September 22, 2017 by maximillian
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[chaiyaphumlove]

I wish the USA would follow this practice, instead of just promoting open borders! Good for Thailand!

 

[chaiyaphumlove]

3 hours ago, MartinKal said:

It's this kind of creation of a list of occupations reserved for native passport holders that the Brit.s need. Unrestricted movement of labour is so destructive of all that proud citizens belive in.

Well said! but you aren't going to be very popular with the kum by ya crowd!  

[holy cow cm]

Racist fascists and continue to glow. What are they trying to preserve? Better quality workers because Thai workers are inferior? YES Inferior on the most part compared!!!  

 

Give me a Thai Yai or even me to do the work on any given day. I surmise it will be of superior craft (me/Thai Yai) considered to a generic general Thai doing it. I have Thai kids too.

Such A Load of crap again. I wonder if a Thai Government worker can even make his or her own food respectively.

 

 

 

[USPatriot]

That is muay thai motorbike shop.

Over priced

[StayinThailand2much]

10 hours ago, alant said:

Good point, I for one want to see the Thai tyre change crew at work...

Shouldn't that read 'the tired Thai change crew'...

[whaleboneman]

7 hours ago, TSF said:

The Thai boys are OK for working on 110CC Hondas but they're totally out of their depth on big bikes, not so many bike bikes around and most Thai mechanics lack any knowledge & experience of working on them. Farang bikers on the other hand have the knowledge & experience of working on big bikes. 

Yes. Big piston much more complicated than small piston.

[whaleboneman]

7 hours ago, Ossy said:

So that kicks my fag-rolling career into touch . . . and dolls, too . . . poooh!

Maybe you could roll joints and make Indonesian dolls.

[balo]

Actually there are some foreigners with the correct work visas that are allowed here. In some restaurants , kitchen chef in 5 star hotels., doctors / specialists in hospitals, IT-people in specialized jobs and of course teachers. They all have a work permit.  Foreign mechanics are probably working illegally and are aware of the risks.. 

 

 

[jacko45k]

14 hours ago, blackcab said:

 

1. Labour

 

This category is extremely broad and can be almost any type of physical work. The immigration department decides what is labour and what is not. In this case, motorbike mechanic is.

But the pick up trucks packed with seventeen labourers heading to and from the site each day are apparently not?

 

I know this shop on soi Buakhao, they seem to specialise in customizing bikes and some are quite impressive, if somewhat OTT. Surprised if they have or need to have foreign staff.

[smotherb]

16 hours ago, Lamkyong said:

sorry paper making ?  w.t.h. has that got to do with repairing  motorbikes >>>

he ran out of papers while reading this forum

[Kerryd]

I think the issue may have gotten confused in translation (by the Pattaya Mail staff perhaps).

 

I'm guessing that the Immigration Police were probably looking for foreigners working as mechanics, without the proper Visas and Work Permits. 
The sentence "Mechanic is one of the many jobs reserved by law for Thais." looks like it was just inserted into the story, but not actually spoken by anyone involved.

Mechanic (auto/moto/airplane/whatever) isn't a "restricted" trade as far as I can tell, however working in any (non-restricted) job would still require the proper Visa and Permit. 
No doubt the same/similar situation that many bar owners face. They can't do anything in their own establishment, unless it is included in the terms of their employment (and in the Work Permit if I recall correctly).
All it takes is for someone to whisper in someone else's ear that they think there is a foreigner working illegally somewhere. 

 

[Sydebolle]

This country seems to have really no problems at all if the BiB have nothing else to do than to hunt alien bike drivers. 

And all those Indians are indeed ethnic Indians but living here in 3rd or 4th generation, hold Thai citizenship, speak, read, write Thai but keep to themselves as far as society, religion and/or food is concerned. Latter to be witnessed anywhere on the planet - possibly one of the reasons why they are pretty successful in what they do. 

 

[Proud Father]

You would think that they might skip the scooter shops and go for the bike shops as I don't know too many people who cant afford the labor here on scooters. Or more likely reported by a disgruntled Thai out of Luck spotting a micromanager foreigner stepping in showing the Thai how he feels it should have been done while the Thai takes a break and says up to you. 

 

[Rimmer]

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[Kwasaki]

15 hours ago, kaorop said:

No, not ime nor what others (many) have related to me

I have lots times, looking at bikes doesnt tell you how well or safely they ride

I've known many, seen the work of many, am highly qualified with decades of experience, 1 decade here, i ride high performance at a high level (not bragging) I feel i've got the situation pretty accurate.

They are about,  l know a father & son in Phitsanulok their own shop.

Another guy is at Kawasaki Nakhon Sawan workshop hard to find you just have to keep looking. 

[blackcab]

4 hours ago, jacko45k said:

But the pick up trucks packed with seventeen labourers heading to and from the site each day are apparently not?

 

The chances are the workers are from Myanmar. The government has relaxed the rules for "labour" for citizens of Myanmar, Laos and Cambodia.

 

All of the workers still require work permits though.

[DieterWiehe]

21 hours ago, alant said:

Good point, I for one want to see the Thai tyre change crew at work...

u see the Thai Maintenance crew at work every day with all those accidents due to Brake failure 555

[jackdd]

5 hours ago, jacko45k said:

But the pick up trucks packed with seventeen labourers heading to and from the site each day are apparently not?

 

If they would apply the laws to the foreign people working at the construction sites, these buildings would never be finished because thais don't want to do this kind of work, so it's just being tolerated.

No problem to catch 1 or 2 farangs in a motorbike shop there are still enough around, also makes a nice story in the news.

[Love66]

On 22/09/2017 at 12:26 PM, Kerryd said:

5.  Driving motor vehicles, driving a non-mechanically propelled carrier or driving a mechanically propelled carrier, except for piloting international aircraft;

Occupation?
I cannot drive my motorbike ? It's a big problem policemen ?
No, just give me 200 baht :D

[Love66]

 

It's formidably interpretable : FOR FOREIGN WORKERS

I'm a volonteer guide ho is offered to pay his hotel and his expenses of stay in Thailand and which therefore has no benefits, so I'm not a FOREIGN WORKER and therefore not included in this law.

 

Otherwise, helping my neighbor against a meal is also prohibited.
I help my friends 35 hours a week, why is this a problem?

 

The day they lock me up in jail, I will pay me the best lawyer in the world with the repayment of the V.A.T of all my expenses in thailand.

 

Edited September 23, 2017 by Love66

[kaorop]

8 hours ago, Kwasaki said:

They are about,  l know a father & son in Phitsanulok their own shop.

Another guy is at Kawasaki Nakhon Sawan workshop hard to find you just have to keep looking. 

of course, but few and far between

i often meet high skilled, quality workmanship, reasonable english guys in their 40s/50s running their own shop, be it mech, machinist, electronics etc etc. but like you said you have to look and sometimes be lucky

 

[backinthesaddle]

On 9/22/2017 at 5:36 AM, jay1980 said:

If mechanic is on the restricted list for foreigners, (I don't believe this) will the Thai immigration police come and arrest all the pit crews when the MotoGP event comes to Buriram next year?

No, thats ridiculous and u should know that.

 

Many countries grant "special visa's" for professional sports including athletes and those that support the athletes or special performers, musicians, etc. I know, I had a "TRV" when playing professional hockey for a team located in canada in the 80's. There were yanks, swedes, fins and the odd russian on the team, all with TRV in canada.

[blackcab]

3 hours ago, Love66 said:

 

It's formidably interpretable : FOR FOREIGN WORKERS

I'm a volonteer guide ho is offered to pay his hotel and his expenses of stay in Thailand and which therefore has no benefits, so I'm not a FOREIGN WORKER and therefore not included in this law.

 

Otherwise, helping my neighbor against a meal is also prohibited.
I help my friends 35 hours a week, why is this a problem?

 

The day they lock me up in jail, I will pay me the best lawyer in the world with the repayment of the V.A.T of all my expenses in thailand.

 

In Thailand you need a work permit to volunteer for free.

 

This is to stop people working and then claiming they are a volunteer (and getting paid cash in secret).

[Rimmer]

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[darren84310]

How about the rental shops that rent bikes without helmets only for the police to fine the rider just down the road and also still fine those with a helmet but without a Thai license, but never going after he rental shops or explaining to tourists that they need a Thai license.

[jackdd]

1 hour ago, darren84310 said:

How about the rental shops that rent bikes without helmets only for the police to fine the rider just down the road and also still fine those with a helmet but without a Thai license, but never going after he rental shops or explaining to tourists that they need a Thai license.

Probably 99% of the tourists know that they need a helmet and a driving license (international license is sufficient, you don't need a Thai license if you are in Thailand less than 3 months), they just don't care, so even if the shops told them, they would still drive like this.

[Love66]

16 hours ago, jackdd said:

Probably 99% of the tourists know that they need a helmet and a driving license (international license is sufficient, you don't need a Thai license if you are in Thailand less than 3 months), they just don't care, so even if the shops told them, they would still drive like this.

Exactly!

 

For the thai licence, you need to have a resident certificate.

For resident certificate, you need to stay more to 3 month.

The most important is to have good insurance and tax paied.

Edited September 25, 2017 by Love66

[stanleycoin]

37 minutes ago, Love66 said:

Exactly!

 

 

For resident certificate, you need to stay more to 3 month.

 

You 100% sure about that for jomtien Immigration ? 

[overherebc]

On 22/09/2017 at 12:36 PM, jay1980 said:

If mechanic is on the restricted list for foreigners, (I don't believe this) will the Thai immigration police come and arrest all the pit crews when the MotoGP event comes to Buriram next year?

Depends if customs allow the practice tyres in this time.