Rimmer Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 Governor: Only solution to Pattaya flooding is to rip up every pipe PATTAYA:--Area officials have requested 810 million baht from the government to completely overhaul Pattaya’s overmatched storm-drainage system. Chonburi Gov. Pakarathorn Thienchai said city and provincial authorities requested 665 million baht under the Eastern Economic Corridor project and 145 million baht from the general fund to completely rip out the entirely of Pattaya’s flood drains and replace them with larger pipes. The governor conceded, however, that even if the money was available tomorrow, considerable study and planning would need to happen before launching such a disruptive project. At a meeting with military and local officials, Pakarathorn said it was clear that Pattaya has outgrown its storm drains, which actually only cover 75 percent of the city. Most of the pipes are 40 centimeters in diameter. Add in Pattaya’s flat topography, the 25 percent of the city that has no drainage, small or clogged drains and overdevelopment and you have the recipe for chronic, disastrous flooding, he said. Read more: http://www.pattayamail.com/news/governor-solution-pattaya-flooding-rip-every-pipe-186808 -- © Copyright Pattaya Mail 2017-09-22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanleycoin Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 (edited) O.M.G, Can you imagine the nice big juicy brown envelopes going around !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. Edited September 22, 2017 by stanleycoin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pdaz Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 9 minutes ago, stanleycoin said: O.M.G, Can you imagine the nice big juicy brown envelopes going around !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. Yeah.... Bet they are at least 40cm in diameter too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marginline Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 It may be the "only solution" Governor but respectfully now; surely you have an opportunity to kill two or three birds with one stone with minimal inconvenience. After all electricity and communications related infrastructure could also be buried. You know you're going to have to do this one day; so why not spend ฿1billion now instead of possibly having to pay many multiples of that - in say 5 or 10 years time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petermik Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 7 hours ago, marginline said: It may be the "only solution" Governor but respectfully now; surely you have an opportunity to kill two or three birds with one stone with minimal inconvenience. After all electricity and communications related infrastructure could also be buried. You know you're going to have to do this one day; so why not spend ฿1billion now instead of possibly having to pay many multiples of that - in say 5 or 10 years time? Common sense does not exist here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebo Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 1 hour ago, marginline said: ... why not spend ฿1billion now instead of possibly having to pay many multiples of that - in say 5 or 10 years time? because the mentioned brown envelopes ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marginline Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 1 minute ago, rebo said: because the mentioned brown envelopes ... Well, thank you, Governor. I appreciate your time in answering my question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawker9000 Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 1 hour ago, petermik said: Common sense does not exist here Neither does the language of urban planning When it blows up in your face and contaminates everything for 50 miles in every direction, THEN start worrying about it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
does Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 3 hours ago, stanleycoin said: O.M.G, Can you imagine the nice big juicy brown envelopes going around !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. Some people can't imagine. Some people can't imagine why "brown envelopes" are the first thing that come to mind when Thai people address serious issues. Some people can't imagine why so many people on this forum have a sanctimonious attitude about everything Thai. They must be from countries that have no problems and are morally and socially far superior. I can't imagine why they would even want to be here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petmag Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 So they need to study and plan as the flooding appears not to be the point of the disruption..Hmmmmm.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chang_paarp Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 At least it is a realistic summation of the current system by someone in authority, not just glossed over. OK there are LOTS of chances for things to go wrong in the planning and implementation which should keep the chattering class amused for decades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Deerhunter Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 6 minutes ago, Chang_paarp said: At least it is a realistic summation of the current system by someone in authority, not just glossed over. OK there are LOTS of chances for things to go wrong in the planning and implementation which should keep the chattering class amused for decades. I have wandered around Pattaya on foot and the surface gradients are up and down behind Pattaya Beach Road. Huge water traps with shop doirways raised and barricaded. It sure would be a major thing to re-lay all the storm water drains and get a consistent fall. But there is no alternative so get planning on it. Just do one soi at a time back to where the upgrade starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantomfiddler Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 I don,t think it is the size of the pipes that is the problem, it is the standard of installation and totally inept design. I have seen numerous cases where drainage pipes went into a manhole but there was no pipe going out, forcing the storm water to squirt out vertically !! Massive storm drains have been installed over the last few decades, but no-one seems to realize that in order for a storm drain to function properly there must be A CONTINUOUS FALL that will provide a flow velocity of 3 feet per second to self cleanse the drain. Then we come to Beach Road ! Is there no exit for the storm water other than flowing over the sidewalk ? Storm water drainage is not rocket science, but the situation that exists in Pattaya is nothing other than a very expensive joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joskeshake Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 maybe 20 years or more ago, they put bigger pipes in Soi Diana Inn, but they not put bigger rasters so when its hard raining the water didn't go away again,amazing thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawadeeken Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 10 hours ago, Rimmer said: PATTAYA:--Area officials have requested 810 million baht from the government 210 million to do a makeshift job and the remaining 600 million for the pockets of a few 'officials'............ LOL......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mok199 Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 (edited) 2 years ago the only solution was to ''pump it out into the open sea''AS WE LOCALS watched in aw as they dredged and ran a pipe 100 meter into pattaya bay.this went on for 18 mnths.the big photo op was short lived the first rain.the pumps didn't work as they had planned ,so they brought in replacments they didn't work,,now the entire mess sits in the middle of the walk path on top of the exsiting unused pumps..surely these people know they are idiots.no one on earth is this thick.. Edited September 22, 2017 by mok199 speliing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAIBKK Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 11 hours ago, phantomfiddler said: Storm water drainage is not rocket science On planet Thailand it is rocket science !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mok199 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 i waiting for the news''THAILAND DEVELOPS DANCE TOO STOP RAIN FROM FALLING''...which is simply the ''rain dance'' in reverse... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydebolle Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Given the benefit of the doubt and honest intent - the Governor is absolutely right! If this country wants to inch towards the 21st century it is high noon to clear up the infrastructural mess on the entire front. Piping, utility supplies, public transport, public service - the works ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebell Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 1 hour ago, Sydebolle said: Given the benefit of the doubt and honest intent - the Governor is absolutely right! If this country wants to inch towards the 21st century it is high noon to clear up the infrastructural mess on the entire front. Piping, utility supplies, public transport, public service - the works ........ and police. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawker9000 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 1 hour ago, Sydebolle said: Given the benefit of the doubt and honest intent - the Governor is absolutely right! If this country wants to inch towards the 21st century it is high noon to clear up the infrastructural mess on the entire front. Piping, utility supplies, public transport, public service - the works ........ 2 minutes ago, mikebell said: and police. Wait, as I gaze in to the mystic crystal ball, the mists are clearing,,,,,,,,,,,yes,,,,,,,,,,,,,,slowly,,,,,,,,,,almost,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Yes! I see it clearly now! There's definitely a new airport tax in our future.... 'That'll be B1,000 please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebell Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 17 hours ago, does said: first thing that come to mind when Thai people address serious issues. Mr Does - I envy your belief that there is no corruption in City Hall or sundry other local government offices. Obviously you have not fallen foul of it yet. If you owned a Pattaya business; if you ever sought planning permission on housing; if you ever, heaven forbid, get involved in a traffic accident; or if your step-daughter seeks employment as a teacher, you will soon learn that money IS the first thing that comes to many Thai minds and is often the reason they ever think about serious issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mok199 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 or just build another mall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USPatriot Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 How about finishing the current projects Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 On 9/22/2017 at 5:23 PM, phantomfiddler said: I don,t think it is the size of the pipes that is the problem, it is the standard of installation and totally inept design. I have seen numerous cases where drainage pipes went into a manhole but there was no pipe going out, forcing the storm water to squirt out vertically !! Massive storm drains have been installed over the last few decades, but no-one seems to realize that in order for a storm drain to function properly there must be A CONTINUOUS FALL that will provide a flow velocity of 3 feet per second to self cleanse the drain. Then we come to Beach Road ! Is there no exit for the storm water other than flowing over the sidewalk ? Storm water drainage is not rocket science, but the situation that exists in Pattaya is nothing other than a very expensive joke. In the 90s they installed massive drain pipes under Beach Rd, but they were either blocked when the road was widened, or are full of sand, as unlikely they were ever cleaned after being laid. Certainly no need to lay new pipes under Beach Rd- just get the existing ones functioning. Probably too easy and not enough money in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimmer Posted September 25, 2017 Author Share Posted September 25, 2017 Two off topic posts have been removed, topic is about drainage pipes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanleycoin Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 22 hours ago, USPatriot said: How about finishing the current projects Can not, no hab money left. all gone, need new money. now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charm867 Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 might help if they cleaned out the drainage pipes,many are blocked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Techno Viking Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Well they obviously know the trouble spots for flooding so why not just put a few boats in each area to help push the water away as it rises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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