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Phuket woman, 46, dead after colliding with open truck door on Thepkrasattri Rd 

Eakkapop Thongtub

 

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Ms Benjaporn Limsakul, 46, was rushed to Thalang Hospital, however she later died of her injuries. Photo: Eakkapop Thongtub
 

About ten metres away was a yellow-black scoopy scooter on its side and a woman lying on the road, bleeding profusely, said Capt Ekkasak.

 

A 46-year-old woman from Hat Yai has died from serious injuries she suffered after her motorbike crashed into the open door of a parked pick-up truck on Thepkrasattri Rd, Srisoonthorn yesterday (Oct 6) at about 7.50pm, Thalang Police have confirmed.

 

Deputy inspector of Thalang Police Capt Ekkasak Kwanhwan was notified by radio that a woman had sustained serious injuries, and another young man minor injuries, in a road accident in front of Banporn Furniture on Thepkrasattri Road (southbound).


Full story: https://www.thephuketnews.com/phuket-woman-46-dead-after-colliding-with-open-truck-door-on-thepkrasattri-rd-64215.php#SqZAEGPkxM2IOWcq.97

 

 

 
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Posted
33 minutes ago, chickenslegs said:

I don't wish to pre-judge the outcome of the police investigation but ...

 

Wouldn't a better title to this story be -

Phuket woman, 46, dead after reckless driver opens truck door without first looking, on Thepkrasattri Rd 

 

Perhaps you can contact the source and make the suggestion to change the title of this story, you can contact them here:  https://www.thephuketnews.com/contact-us.php#zPXdZQYFEwy8p2jv.97

Posted
40 minutes ago, metisdead said:

 

Perhaps you can contact the source and make the suggestion to change the title of this story, you can contact them here:  https://www.thephuketnews.com/contact-us.php#zPXdZQYFEwy8p2jv.97

No need to be so sensitive.

My comment was intended to emphasise the (likely) true cause of the death, and was not directed at the Thai Visa News Team.

I am fully aware that the article is not an original TV piece, but copied from the Phuket News - I saw the link in bold lettering.

Posted
12 hours ago, chickenslegs said:

No need to be so sensitive.

My comment was intended to emphasise the (likely) true cause of the death, and was not directed at the Thai Visa News Team.

I am fully aware that the article is not an original TV piece, but copied from the Phuket News - I saw the link in bold lettering.

The article indeed says that the pickup driver opened his door "without caution," and he has been charged with "reckless driving causing injury and death." The headline may be vaguely misleading, but it looks like the police have accurately interpreted what happened. I've found that, in Thailand, drivers tend to be held responsible for everything that happens in front of them, even at just a split second's notice, in which case the dead woman's family would be responsible for repairing the pickup driver's door, but I'm glad to see it worked the other way here ...

Posted
14 hours ago, chickenslegs said:

No need to be so sensitive.

My comment was intended to emphasise the (likely) true cause of the death, and was not directed at the Thai Visa News Team.

I am fully aware that the article is not an original TV piece, but copied from the Phuket News - I saw the link in bold lettering.

I don't see anything wrong with the title as it is. States the topic without any emotive details.

What you want is to make the title more sensational or emotional.

Leave it be. If people want to, they will read the article and find out all they need to

Posted
2 hours ago, robertthesculptor said:

In any thinking country it is ileagle to open a car or truck door into traffic. Plain and simple

Forget about the accident, would you be kind enough to have few photos of your sculptures on this forum, I am sure nobody will complain. This tiny little one looks real good. You really a sculptor?  Show us more of your artistic works. Look forward to it. Cheers.

Posted

perhaps public TV is a great tool for educating people everyday regarding wrong driving habits in Thailand since there are many deaths.  

Posted
2 hours ago, robertthesculptor said:

In any thinking country it is ileagle to open a car or truck door into traffic. Plain and simple

And your point is?

Posted
1 hour ago, madusa said:

Forget about the accident, would you be kind enough to have few photos of your sculptures on this forum, I am sure nobody will complain. This tiny little one looks real good. You really a sculptor?  Show us more of your artistic works. Look forward to it. Cheers.

..."forget about the accident"...ok ...moving right along...RIP khun ying.

Posted (edited)
4 hours ago, robertthesculptor said:

In any thinking country it is ileagle to open a car or truck door into traffic. Plain and simple

Mmm... not so plain or simple, IMHO

 

Certainly.... Only a total idiot would deliberately open a car door into evident traffic, but accidents do happen, and it is not illegal to open your door, when parking on the side of a road.

 

True story.... on my first attempt to get a motor bike license in Australia, I failed because I passed a parked car, without leaving enough space to allow for the possibility that the door might be opened unexpectedly, into traffic

 

so... in a thinking country, it would be more correct to state that drivers and riders are educated to pass stationary vehicles in a safe manner, allowing for the fact that this may happen. ( which is also why cars no longer have "suicide" doors)

 

without a doubt, both parties must share responsibility for this accident, perhaps the rider moreso, as it may be that she was approaching from behind the car, then swerved out unexpectantly (and late) to pass the car, just as the car driver, thinking it was safe to open the door, did just that (precluding avoidance... or the ability to stop)

 

in the above scenario, with a decent lawyer, an Australian court might find the driver not guilty of any offense.... similar to rear end accidents, of which, arguably, this is an example

Edited by farcanell
Posted

Three contributing issues here... 

1) Riding carelessly (too close to parked vehicles)

2) Driver opened his door carelessly

3) Rider didn't wear a helmet, careless of her safety

 

Three issues which could be readily taken care here with correct driver / rider education... it really is a shame how we (ThaiVisa members) and most other visitors can easily see how and where improvements to road safety can and should be made yet nothing is ever done for those in positions of decision making power seem not to care at all. 

 

Posted
4 hours ago, robertthesculptor said:

In any thinking country it is ileagle to open a car or truck door into traffic. Plain and simple

If so, the dead biker’s tombstone can read “The guy who opened his car door killed me, but hey I was in the right!”

 

Irrespective of what country, the experienced rider WHO WANTS TO LIVE will always anticipate that the door of EVERY parked car is about to open and adjust his or her speed and/or distance from car accordingly. 

 

RIP Ms Benjaporn. 

Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, farcanell said:

Mmm... not so plain or simple, IMHO

 

Certainly.... Only a total idiot would deliberately open a car door into evident traffic, but accidents do happen, and it is not illegal to open your door, when parking on the side of a road.

 

True story.... on my first attempt to get a motor bike license in Australia, I failed because I passed a parked car, without leaving enough space to allow for the possibility that the door might be opened unexpectedly, into traffic

 

so... in a thinking country, it would be more correct to state that drivers and riders are educated to pass stationary vehicles in a safe manner, allowing for the fact that this may happen. ( which is also why cars no longer have "suicide" doors)

 

without a doubt, both parties must share responsibility for this accident, perhaps the rider moreso, as it may be that she was approaching from behind the car, then swerved out unexpectantly (and late) to pass the car, just as the car driver, thinking it was safe to open the door, did just that (precluding avoidance... or the ability to stop)

 

in the above scenario, with a decent lawyer, an Australian court might find the driver not guilty of any offense.... similar to rear end accidents, of which, arguably, this is an example

Yes, a driver/rider should anticipate the door being opened, which is a good driving habit.

 

But no, that does not absolve the blame of the opening party, he is and remains 100% responsible. It is the law that decides blame.

Edited by stevenl
Posted
1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said:

Three contributing issues here... 

1) Riding carelessly (too close to parked vehicles)

2) Driver opened his door carelessly

3) Rider didn't wear a helmet, careless of her safety

 

Three issues which could be readily taken care here with correct driver / rider education... it really is a shame how we (ThaiVisa members) and most other visitors can easily see how and where improvements to road safety can and should be made yet nothing is ever done for those in positions of decision making power seem not to care at all. 

 

You presume she did not wear a helmet, no mention of this either way in the OP.

Posted (edited)
25 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Yes, a driver/rider should anticipate the door being opened, which is a good driving habit.

 

But no, that does not absolve the blame of the opening party, he is and remains 100% responsible. It is the law that decides blame.

Ok... in normal every day circumstances... but what if CCTV shows the rider driving negligently.?

 

the amount of times I've witnessed bikes suddenly changing lanes, swerving erratically, etc etc, in an unpredictable manner, is truly frightening and usually an example of "dangerous driving"

 

is this then still 100% the door openers fault (lol... that's starting to sound like an obscene label!... a la, you dirty rotten door opener ?)

Edited by farcanell
Posted
1 minute ago, farcanell said:

Ok... in normal every day circumstances... but what if CCTV shows the rider driving negligently.?

 

the amount of times I've witnessed bikes suddenly changing lanes, swerving erratically, etc etc, in an unpredictable manner, is truly frightening and usually an example of "dangerous driving"

 

is this then still 100% the door openers fault (lol... that's starting to sound like an obscene label!... a la, you dirty rotten door opener ?)

 

I drive a car everyday here in Phuket. I look in my side mirror before open door. Requires patient to get a quiet spot. And then I just crack open door and visual look before open half way. Yes sure the bike driver should be more spacially aware ... but hey this is Thailand.   

Posted
11 minutes ago, LivinginKata said:

 

I drive a car everyday here in Phuket. I look in my side mirror before open door. Requires patient to get a quiet spot. And then I just crack open door and visual look before open half way. Yes sure the bike driver should be more spacially aware ... but hey this is Thailand.   

Same same... 100% the same... which seemingly is all the more important if the dirty rotten door opener is 100% at fault.

Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, farcanell said:

Mmm... not so plain or simple, IMHO

 

Certainly.... Only a total idiot would deliberately open a car door into evident traffic, but accidents do happen, and it is not illegal to open your door, when parking on the side of a road.

 

True story.... on my first attempt to get a motor bike license in Australia, I failed because I passed a parked car, without leaving enough space to allow for the possibility that the door might be opened unexpectedly, into traffic

 

so... in a thinking country, it would be more correct to state that drivers and riders are educated to pass stationary vehicles in a safe manner, allowing for the fact that this may happen. ( which is also why cars no longer have "suicide" doors)

 

without a doubt, both parties must share responsibility for this accident, perhaps the rider moreso, as it may be that she was approaching from behind the car, then swerved out unexpectantly (and late) to pass the car, just as the car driver, thinking it was safe to open the door, did just that (precluding avoidance... or the ability to stop)

 

in the above scenario, with a decent lawyer, an Australian court might find the driver not guilty of any offense.... similar to rear end accidents, of which, arguably, this is an example

It’s actually a law in Oz that when opening the door of a vehicle you must not impede bicycle, vehicle or pedestrian. 

The person in the vehicle would be considered guilty unless extenuating circumstances could be proved.

Edited by MadMuhammad
Incorrect spelling
Posted

"Opening a car door and accidentally hitting a cyclist or pedestrian is a $379 fine in Victoria."

 

other states have similar laws with varying penalties. At one time the rule book said you had to alight on the passenger side if it was a hazard. 

Posted
6 hours ago, robertthesculptor said:

In any thinking country it is ileagle to open a car or truck door into traffic. Plain and simple

Rubbish.....facepalm.gif.0326a17c37a7e7c19098da976b0505c5.gif

Posted
16 minutes ago, MadMuhammad said:

It’s actually a law in Oz that when opening the door of a vehicle you must not impede bicycle, vehicle or pedestrian. 

The person in the vehicle would be considered guilty unless extenuating circumstances could be proved.

Yep.... which is what I was perhaps incorrectly assuming ( extenuating circumstances), based on many years of observation of down right dangerous driving habits... ergo putting forward a "scenario"

 

admittedly, as it was a 46 year old woman, I may have been unduly harsh in my comment

Posted (edited)
7 hours ago, robertthesculptor said:

In any thinking country it is ileagle to open a car or truck door into traffic. Plain and simple

As it is here in this case, the driver has been charged with causing the woman's death.  Plain and simple.

Edited by Just Weird
Posted
As it is here in this case, the driver has been charged with causing the woman's death.  Plain and simple.


Small comfort for deceased’s family.

Charging the driver won’t bring back the bike rider.

Bile riders who want to survive need to keep well away from parked car’s doors, regardless of who the laws says will be charged.
Posted

Whether caution  and safe driving  is always debatable, all of these unnecessary accidents are sadly due to "someone" not being aware. Sometimes,  it seems that the worst drivers unfortunately contribute to these sad statistics.

Posted
17 hours ago, LivinginKata said:

 

I drive a car everyday here in Phuket. I look in my side mirror before open door. Requires patient to get a quiet spot. And then I just crack open door and visual look before open half way. Yes sure the bike driver should be more spacially aware ... but hey this is Thailand.   

What the hell are you talking about? My goodness.

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