British man arrested for assaulting Algerian man in Pattaya

[overherebc]

4 hours ago, transam said:

You ain't met Trans yet then, where every day is a holiday....

Once did a joint exercise with a load of new GI's in Germany and on the first day their Gunnery Sergeant told them, you've been in the army for a few weeks so keep in mind these Brits all have a few years on you and they will out drink you, out fight you and out

f--- you. They learned a lot over a few weeks and we were just bog standard grunts.

That was 70's though so maybe things have changed.

[alex8912]

4 hours ago, Walter Travolta said:

Wow not much changes on here does it? 

 

I only visit here once every couple of months now and I must say, there are even more nauseating comments from even more nauseating people

 

I see racism against the Brits is still alive and well . . . 

Didn't know the Brits are their own race..pretty interesting. Did you read the initial story at all? Or were yah ?!

[dunroaming]

11 hours ago, Kerryd said:

Ghad - tried using Google translate on the Siam Chon article. 
The headline "(มีคลิป) หนุ่มอังกฤษเมาโชว์นักเลงหาเรื่องทำร้ายร่างกายหนุ่มแอลจีเลียเจ็บ" becomes "(With clips) Young England drunk show gangster <deleted> young licking lick" !

Which would give a whole different outlook on the story. 

Certainly would starting with who was licking who and was there sweet chilli sauce involved!

[overherebc]

7 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

While pratts are a fact of life anywhere, Pattaya ( at least used to be ) pretty devoid of them. I only saw one drunk guy getting punched out by a BG in 10 years of going there a lot. I never saw farangs fighting- everyone was just having fun.

Best I saw was a guy getting the sh-t kicked out of him in Nana Plaza trying to take the

p-ss out of a quite attractive ladyboy half his size. 

Everyone just sat and watched and gave her/him ( shim ) a round of applause.

[observer90210]

With such rogues assaulting people on the run, the quality sex patrons will flee Pattaya !!!!...VietNam, Philippines, Manilla are a short jet away, keep that in mind....

[gk10002000]

13 hours ago, Kerryd said:

Ghad - tried using Google translate on the Siam Chon article. 
The headline "(มีคลิป) หนุ่มอังกฤษเมาโชว์นักเลงหาเรื่องทำร้ายร่างกายหนุ่มแอลจีเลียเจ็บ" becomes "(With clips) Young England drunk show gangster <deleted> young licking lick" !

Which would give a whole different outlook on the story. 

haha.  I wonder if somehow it meant to come out as gave a licking.  Don't hear that word used that much these days, but was more common when I was growing up.  I guess gave him a licking came from the way dogs saunter away and go lick their wounds

[JSixpack]

2 hours ago, observer90210 said:

With such rogues assaulting people on the run, the quality sex patrons will flee Pattaya !!!!...VietNam, Philippines, Manilla are a short jet away, keep that in mind....

 

No. Been hearing the same complaint (and more) with the same dire prediction for decades. Here it is in 1997; everybody's gon' go to the paradise of Cambodia:

 

There are two types of articles appearing in the Pattaya Mail with regularity: those where business and political leaders decry the decline in tourism and propose ways to improve the situation; and a steadily increasing number of reports of tourists being insulted, assaulted, drugged, robbed and extorted. All the good intentions and empty proposals by community leaders are not going to change the behavior of the people at street level, and it is they who are driving away the life blood of the city.

 

. . . It doesn’t matter if the streets are cleared of garbage, no one is going to walk down them if doing so leaves them open to being insulted and assaulted. Having a beach promenade doesn’t matter if strolling along it means taking the risk of being knocked down and robbed. No one is going to participate in the vibrant night-life if there is a good chance that they will wake up three days later in the hospital with all their possessions gone, or in some cases, not wake up at all. No one is going to seek an exotic experience if it means they might be set up by girls with both a legal age and under age ID, and then extorted for immense sums by the police.

Pattaya is being inundated with rude obnoxious thugs who do not care about the city or its visitors. They do not listen to the community leaders, and the police do not have the budget or manpower to control them. They are driving away the tourists and the income and jobs that they bring. Inevitably, this rabble will win as they reduce everyone to their level of poverty.

Meanwhile, tourism to Cambodia is increasing by 50% every six months...

     --Lawrence Neal, "Down On Pattaya, Pattaya Mail, Vol. V No.5, Friday 31 January 1997 - 6 February 1997

 

Edited November 12, 2017 by JSixpack

[JSixpack]

1 hour ago, gk10002000 said:

haha.  I wonder if somehow it meant to come out as gave a licking.  Don't hear that word used that much these days, but was more common when I was growing up.  I guess gave him a licking came from the way dogs saunter away and go lick their wounds

 

'Licking' in the colloquial sense of beating or thrashing seems unrelated to the tongue action.

[observer90210]

11 minutes ago, JSixpack said:

 

No. Been hearing the same complaint & dire prediction for decades. Here it is in 1997; everybody's gon' go to the paradise of Cambodia:

 

There are two types of articles appearing in the Pattaya Mail with regularity: those where business and political leaders decry the decline in tourism and propose ways to improve the situation; and a steadily increasing number of reports of tourists being insulted, assaulted, drugged, robbed and extorted. All the good intentions and empty proposals by community leaders are not going to change the behavior of the people at street level, and it is they who are driving away the life blood of the city.

 

. . . It doesn’t matter if the streets are cleared of garbage, no one is going to walk down them if doing so leaves them open to being insulted and assaulted. Having a beach promenade doesn’t matter if strolling along it means taking the risk of being knocked down and robbed. No one is going to participate in the vibrant night-life if there is a good chance that they will wake up three days later in the hospital with all their possessions gone, or in some cases, not wake up at all. No one is going to seek an exotic experience if it means they might be set up by girls with both a legal age and under age ID, and then extorted for immense sums by the police.

Pattaya is being inundated with rude obnoxious thugs who do not care about the city or its visitors. They do not listen to the community leaders, and the police do not have the budget or manpower to control them. They are driving away the tourists and the income and jobs that they bring. Inevitably, this rabble will win as they reduce everyone to their level of poverty.

Meanwhile, tourism to Cambodia is increasing by 50% every six months...

     --Lawrence Neal, "Down On Pattaya, Pattaya Mail, Vol. V No.5, Friday 31 January 1997 - 6 February 1997

 

Interesting facts in the cited article... and considering that the dynamics have changed a bit since 1997 and 2017....Air Travel is easier, low-cost jet carriers crash their costs, VietNam et Co have developped since 1997...making travel and lodging much more accessible...thanks for the text.

Edited November 12, 2017 by observer90210

[JSixpack]

47 minutes ago, observer90210 said:

Interesting facts in the cited article... and considering that the dynamics have changed a bit since 1997 and 2017....Air Travel is easier, low-cost jet carriers crash their costs, VietNam et Co have developped since 1997...making travel and lodging much more accessible...thanks for the text.

 

This reply innocently pretends that your complaint and warning were voiced in 1997 and never again until Nov 13, 2017. Not so. It and others have been yearly, a continual stream from the ever-present contingent of whingers, bashers, naysayers, and doomsayers.The change in the dynamics, though ongoing for 2 decades, has yet to have any appreciable effect on your "quality sex patron." If air travel is cheaper to VN, it's also cheaper to Thailand. If you read the SE Asia forums, you'll see lots of posts extolling the superiority of Thailand.

 

Hence your dire warning is merely the same nonsense it always was. Truth is, the "patrons" aren't deterred by much of anything other than decreased purchasing power. It's particularly laughable you'd think that fear of being mugged by a Brit in Thailand would prompt sex tourists, so many of them Brits anyway, to choose VN over Thailand.

 

Edited November 12, 2017 by JSixpack

[yrag]

Brits can be radical, known for heavy drinking...Then again i don't respect or like muslims

[observer90210]

26 minutes ago, JSixpack said:

 

This reply innocently pretends that your complaint and warning were voiced in 1997 and never again until Nov 13, 2017. Not so. It and others have been yearly, a continual stream from the ever-present contingent of whingers, bashers, naysayers, and doomsayers.The change in the dynamics, though ongoing for 2 decades, has yet to have any appreciable effect on your "quality sex patron." If air travel is cheaper to VN, it's also cheaper to Thailand. If you read the SE Asia forums, you'll see lots of posts extolling the superiority of Thailand.

 

Hence your dire warning is merely the same nonsense it always was. Truth is, the "patrons" aren't deterred by much of anything other than decreased purchasing power. It's particularly laughable you'd think that fear of being mugged by a Brit in Thailand would prompt sex tourists, so many of them Brits anyway, to choose VN over Thailand.

 

Thanks for your comments assorted with your usual and entertaining virulence..

 

Maybe the hard core sex tourists won't flee...but such incidents could deter the "quality tourist families" that Thailand and Pattaya are aiming to please....it could be laughable to visualise families with their kids in walking street for some, but I'm sure Pattaya has more to offer and it has, and precisely that where where some of the more family oriented with a good level of cash flow,  may manifest scepticism.

Edited November 12, 2017 by observer90210

[portroyal]

In France Algerians are prompt to fight  and they are known to attack first

They have already invaded France and Spain, now Thailand ? Brrrr

With what money this one was here ? Drug dealing or french social welfare ? Or both ?

[MadMuhammad]

18 hours ago, ginjag said:

Close Walking street at 2am.       long time ago the general trend was..7pm--out to eat an evening meal,     10pm a go go bar for a drink,   11-30 pm visit a cabaret show in Pattaya Land 1-2-3.   then to Marine disco until 2am.     enough time for all to enjoy.   For what reason do anyone want to be in walking street at 4-30 am.......

 

Pattaya City and the R-Thai police,  close walking street at 2am.  (just saying)     

Um riiiight....... 

[MadMuhammad]

It was a disagreement followed by violence. Big deal, it happens. 

May least there was no machete involved like the incident @ 3pm @ a school, with no alcohol involved....

[Kadilo]

Thanks for your comments assorted with your usual and entertaining virulence..
 
Maybe the hard core sex tourists won't flee...but such incidents could deter the "quality tourist families" that Thailand and Pattaya are aiming to please....it could be laughable to visualise families with their kids in walking street for some, but I'm sure Pattaya has more to offer and it has, and precisely that where where some of the more family oriented with a good level of cash flow,  may manifest scepticism.

These "quality family tourists " are not going to give a didly squat about what happens at 0430 in Walking street.


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[Baerboxer]

22 hours ago, IamNoone88 said:

Obviously the Brit had his perfect night ruined. Must have gone well with being drunk, women and a good fight. Now in police custody, he will miss the traditional after fight curry and enjoy the fine cuisine served in the clink. He should have stayed in the UK, had the curry and given the lack of police funding, probably got away with it. He deserves what he gets.

 

Yeah, and some people love to know it all before they even know anything.

 

Usually driven by their own prejudice.

[Baerboxer]

1 hour ago, MadMuhammad said:

It was a disagreement followed by violence. Big deal, it happens. 

May least there was no machete involved like the incident @ 3pm @ a school, with no alcohol involved....

 

And no guns. Unlike in some countries.

[Baerboxer]

11 hours ago, alex8912 said:

Didn't know the Brits are their own race..pretty interesting. Did you read the initial story at all? Or were yah ?!

 

Look up the definitions and use of the word "racism' before posting.

 

"Racism is the belief in the superiority of one race over another, which often results in discrimination and prejudice towards people based on their race or ethnicity. Today, the use of the term "racism" does not easily fall under a single definition"

Source: Wiki

[Baerboxer]

7 hours ago, yrag said:

Brits can be radical, known for heavy drinking...Then again i don't respect or like muslims

 

Heavy drinking, taking other drugs, violent behavior, bad manners, extreme political and religious views -

 

NOT confined to one or a few nationalities, races, ethnicity, or religious, political or social view. 

 

Has to do with the INDIVIDUAL.

[Anythingleft?]

Good luck finding a camera that actually works..... so many comments jumping to conclusions

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[FritsSikkink]

18 hours ago, AlexRich said:

The problem with your comment is that we don’t know exactly why this fight took place. For example, maybe one night you go out for a celebratory drink with some friends, you drink more than you are used to (uncharacteristically) and you stagger home. On the journey a young Algerian with a knife demands you hand over your wallet? I’ve no idea what happened, but you really shouldn’t presume that the Brit was in the wrong. At least until the facts prove that to be the case.

If he was being robbed it would be in the papers all over the world already, and a go fund me page sorted too.

[Rimmer]

A troll post and replies have been removed

[JSixpack]

9 hours ago, observer90210 said:

Thanks for your comments assorted with your usual and entertaining virulence..

 

Maybe the hard core sex tourists won't flee...but such incidents could deter the "quality tourist families" that Thailand and Pattaya are aiming to please....it could be laughable to visualise families with their kids in walking street for some, but I'm sure Pattaya has more to offer and it has, and precisely that where where some of the more family oriented with a good level of cash flow,  may manifest scepticism.

3

 

Nah. Over the years, despite all the sneers and complaints--not merely about violence but everything else that should deter families, listed here:

 

 

and here:

 

 

despite all those, and the perpetual chant by TAT: TVF that Pattaya is driving the families away, the number of families visiting Pattaya has just been increasing rapidly. For one thing Pattaya has more attractions appealing to families than ever before--and that list is growing. Would families like Terminal 21?

 

Edited November 13, 2017 by JSixpack

[Kadilo]

Just now, SpicyMeatball said:

Good idea. Which ones are you taking?

The ones you need 

[Rimmer]

Multiple off topic and troll posts have been removed, the warnings are in the post

[smotherb]

On 11/12/2017 at 9:48 AM, Thaiwrath said:

Being out at "sleep o'clock" can be fraught with danger nowadays, in most countries.

What is sleep o'clock? We now have sleep police? Many people work all night, many others prefer to stay out all night.. In these situations, it's the drunks, no matter the time, who are the problems.

[transam]

1 minute ago, smotherb said:

What is sleep o'clock? We now have sleep police? Many people work all night, many others prefer to stay out all night.. In these situations, it's the drunks, no matter the time, who are the problems.

But the venues in question are there to cater for these folk, booze, birds, blokes...A money making environment, these places will experience fracas...

[smotherb]

Just now, transam said:

But the venues in question are there to cater for these folk, booze, birds, blokes...A money making environment, these places will experience fracas...

It seems far too many do not realize you can drink, but do not have to get drunk; if you have the wherewithal about you.

[transam]

6 minutes ago, smotherb said:

It seems far too many do not realize you can drink, but do not have to get drunk; if you have the wherewithal about you.

At times I get drunk even up here in the boonies, but places here close at the times the BiB stipulate, which is midnight I think...But folk here are lucky, cos if l get drunk l..........Gawd folk here are so lucky...