Act now covers simple possession of offensive material

[Jools]

50 minutes ago, KIWIBATCH said:

...And exactly how are they going to check all the countries computers for pornographic stuff or other stuff deemed inappropriate.....

Are we all going to have an "inspection" of our computers every Saturday morning by the authorities.....

 

It is hard to imagine why anyone living in Thailand would have pornography on their computer when the real thing is available down at the nearest beer bar, Thailand has one great freedom that the USA will probably never achieve. When your country is run by blue-nosed Calvinists, you lose the freedom to be a sexual being. I would much rather have my freedom to criticize the government limited.

[Jimdandy]

Wow. Note to self;  consider never visiting Thailand again unless I leave my mobile phone at home because it might have a picture of a sexy lady in an ad marketing one of the exotic beaches as a romantic vacation destination. Oh, and by the way, who do you supposed might have produced such advertising around the world? 

 

 

[Baerboxer]

4 hours ago, JAG said:

It won't be enforced as such, it will be available to be used to " take down" anyone they want out of the way.

 

Which is why all the definitions and criteria of what constitutes various items of offense is deliberately left vague. So it gives plenty of scope to fit the law around the particular context and circumstances.

 

There are quite a few of these available now so upset the wrong people and they've plenty of options to use. And legal and up to the "investigating officer"!

 

 

[Baerboxer]

18 minutes ago, candide said:

It's not their objective to prevent porn and other stuff to be stored on computer. The objective is to be able to put any charge they want on someone they don't like, i.e. a New Democracy activist.

 

They already have a number of options to do this. This extra one just adds to the arsenal they can choose from. And of course nothing to stop them using multiple charges for anyone really pesky.

[SoulWater]

 
They already have a number of options to do this. This extra one just adds to the arsenal they can choose from. And of course nothing to stop them using multiple charges for anyone really pesky.

Peace and order [emoji23]

[Baerboxer]

3 minutes ago, SoulWater said:

Peace and order

 A phenomenon of those states is lots of order and very little peace!!

 

Hope not.

Edited November 24, 2017 by Baerboxer

[anon789561]

my uni chicks are staying on my phone. if they want to delete them they'll have to come here and do it themselves. i'll stock up on tissue for them

[Zack61]

Do they have enough prisons?

[Zack61]

37 minutes ago, Jimdandy said:

Wow. Note to self;  consider never visiting Thailand again unless I leave my mobile phone at home because it might have a picture of a sexy lady in an ad marketing one of the exotic beaches as a romantic vacation destination. Oh, and by the way, who do you supposed might have produced such advertising around the world? 

 

 

Or worse. She might be advertising beer

[George2]

time to delete the hentai folder boys

[SoulWater]

I love TV forums as we do have an element of free speech - what I am slightly concerned about is how much longer we may have that right and anything we all may have said in the past that may not defame each other but could be construed under a law we are not aware of to be defamatory

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[farcanell]

The change of law is a year old.... so far, no mention of it being used by the courts (is there?)... thanks for the reminder Facebook ( before your declared an illegal site... ???)

 

as yet, I have never seen the BiB effectively police anything, barring inactivity.... and given that the government now acknowledge this ( by having given over their duties to other organization), I can’t see any real threat to computer users from the BiB

 

mind you, I do recall a couple of articles herein, where total tossers have “stalked” or harassed girls by displaying graphic images on iPhones and asking the “victim” to do the same with them..... so perhaps a positive side of the coin.... get those sickos.

 

 

[Chris Lawrence]

"Stupid is what stupid does" Forest's Mum.

[pumpjack]

hmmmm...i guess thats me snookered now.  

 

note to self -   erase all " xhamster.com " & clear browsing data before flight  555

[SoulWater]

The change of law is a year old.... so far, no mention of it being used by the courts (is there?)... thanks for the reminder Facebook ( before your declared an illegal site... [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23])
 
as yet, I have never seen the BiB effectively police anything, barring inactivity.... and given that the government now acknowledge this ( by having given over their duties to other organization), I can’t see any real threat to computer users from the BiB
 
mind you, I do recall a couple of articles herein, where total tossers have “stalked” or harassed girls by displaying graphic images on iPhones and asking the “victim” to do the same with them..... so perhaps a positive side of the coin.... get those sickos.
 
 

Agree totally that s41t is sick in any country and doesn't just break computer laws a person has to be fairly messed up to do that in the first place and deserves what's coming to them.

Some of my buddies email each other pictures of (consenting) sexy porn stars occasionally - i have already informed them to remove me from the cc email list for fear of being jailed!

Once this thread is complete this mobile phone will be going on the same bucket of water my laptop went into yesterday.

I must stress that all images I have every had on my phone or computer would be fully legal in 99.9% of all countries in the world!

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[bangrak]

6 hours ago, Orton Rd said:

What next, all citizens to have the same haircuts and be in bed by 9.30 PM? They had better start building a lot of prisons.

...And all citizens forced to watch 'uncle' on the tele on Friday evenings, maybe?

[Shiver]

Thought crimes.

 

But I think in English still.

[doublezero]

7 minutes ago, Shiver said:

But I think in English still.

Try to think in English as long as it is legal!

 

As soon as Thai becomes the leading world-language thinking will have to be in Thai.

Edited November 24, 2017 by doublezero

[Easy Come Easy Go]

1 hour ago, farcanell said:

The change of law is a year old.... so far, no mention of it being used by the courts (is there?)... thanks for the reminder Facebook ( before your declared an illegal site... ???)

 

as yet, I have never seen the BiB effectively police anything, barring inactivity.... and given that the government now acknowledge this ( by having given over their duties to other organization), I can’t see any real threat to computer users from the BiB

 

mind you, I do recall a couple of articles herein, where total tossers have “stalked” or harassed girls by displaying graphic images on iPhones and asking the “victim” to do the same with them..... so perhaps a positive side of the coin.... get those sickos.

 

 

Not relating to porn, but there was a Vice documentary that showed this law in relation to satirical content against the regime. It followed the story of a Thai woman who has a brother that is locked up for 50 or so years for sharing a cartoon on Facebook that poked fun at the powers that be. 

[sambum]

How about addressing the proper obscene behaviour in this land - starting off with improving their position in the World's corruption table, instead of the ridiculous recent "changes" like 100,000 baht fines and/or a year in jail for smoking on the beach, or being in possession of "offensive material"! :-

 

"Transparency International, in their Corruption Perceptions Index 2016 ranked Thailand 101 of 176 nations (1=clean; 176=most corrupt).^[3] The index examines public sector corruption.

However, the international corruption index from Transparency International showed no change in their corruption index for Thailand between 2014 and 2015 and that corruption actually worsened from 2015 to 2016.^[21][22] Other corruption agencies also noted a decline in transparency since the 2014 coup d'etat, especially in the judicial system and in civil society where the media is restricted and influenced by the military government and criticism of the current regime is heavily suppressed."

Edited November 24, 2017 by sambum

[candide]

2 hours ago, farcanell said:

I can’t see any real threat to computer users from the BiB

You are right, but anyway they are not targeting "normal" computer users, they are targeting political opponents.

Whenever they want to get rid of an opponent, they can inspect his computer and find something that can be interpreted as threatening stability or harmony, defaming, or "innapropriate". Before that, it was only possible if the person had published, posted or communicated something. 

Edited November 24, 2017 by candide

[JayBird]

All my data is in the cloud in another country and not stored physically on my local computer, therefore I'm safe.

[asean]

how can a national newspaper have such a complete misinterpretation of Law?

[dezeure]

10 hours ago, Muzarella said:

The Thai jails will be small to hold all the College students!

Don't forget all those blessed monks with their computers... you should see the amount of DVD's those used to buy in Panthip lol

[VBF]

7 hours ago, chrisinth said:

It would remove from your caches but not from your OS caches necessarily.

 

I was talking to a friend last night about this and he challenged me to find any traces of porn on his notebook. He thought he was safe because he downloads to his notebook and then transfers to an external drive. Without even going into his Windows folder, System Restore or his Acronis backups, simply right-clicking on his torrent client scared the life out of him. That took approx. 15 seconds!

 

The cropped screenshot below was given to me with his permission as it gives no personal details except perhaps what porn he is into...........

 

@chrisinth   FYI CCleaner  will get rid of those issues and clear local caches, history etc  - i just did exactly what you described on my uTorrent Client - where before I had a long list of recent downloads, now there are none.

 

Seriously, does anyone think this law will be widely applied or, as has been said here already, used to "get" people that the authorities already have on their radar?

[Anthony Loh]

I better sell away all my computer and notebook, never never use internet in Thailand and wait till I go back to my own country than I can start to buy new computer to use in overseas....................in the future, I think we can’t even open our mouth to do talking in the public.........very scared and can’t sleep very night.

[Basil B]

Will this cover smart phones too?

 

If so then I hope the ex gets done 

[dunroaming]

On ‎11‎/‎23‎/‎2017 at 7:13 AM, rkidlad said:

They're really turning the screw now. These crazy ideas never lead to anywhere good. 

Actually I think these crazy ideas never lead to anywhere at all.

 

However I am sure there will be quite a few ex-pats (and Thais) who will be reaching for the "send to recycle bin" tab any time soon 

[Dogmatix]

I remember the time before the Internet when Thailand was often referred to in the foreign press as having the most robust free press in Asian after the post-Marcos Philippines.   You never see positive references to Thailand's freedom of expression in the foreign media any more. In fact, it is quite the reverse.  I am also not sure about the Philippines in the madman Duterte era.     

[amdy2206]

I am sure there are very few computers which don't have something on them that the current - what shall I call them - regime (as anything else would most likely be illegal) would call illegal. They are more conservative and restrictive than a maiden aunt. Get a life and join the 21st century. Everyone else has - exceot North Korea - and Thailand will be the next to revert to 19th century.