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Analysis: Bitcoin to start futures trading, stoking Wild West worries

By John McCrank and Anna Irrera

 

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FILE PHOTO: A logo of Bitcoin is seen on an advertisement of an electronic shop in Tokyo, Japan September 5, 2017. REUTERS/Kim Kyung-Hoon/File Photo

 

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Bitcoin fans are salivating over the potential of long-awaited legitimacy for the cyptocurrency when futures trading launches this weekend, but experts worry the risks associated with bitcoin's Wild West-like nature could overshadow the debut.

 

The first bitcoin future trades kick off Sunday at 6 p.m. EST (2300 GMT) on Cboe Global Markets Inc's Cboe Futures Exchange, followed a week later by CME Group Inc's CME.

 

Nasdaq Inc plans to get into the mix next year, Reuters reported.

 

While Cboe, CME and Nasdaq offer strictly policed trading environments, the underlying bitcoin market is riddled with crypto-exchanges lacking even basic oversight.

 

That has stoked fears of market manipulation, inaccurate pricing, and systemic risk to clearing houses.

 

"I'm kind of taken aback by what's happened in the last three months," said Richard Johnson, an analyst at Greenwich Associates who owns digital currencies and considers himself a bitcoin bull. "I'm concerned things are moving a bit too quickly."

 

Bitcoin's more than 10-fold upsurge this year has led to warnings of a bubble by the likes of JPMorgan Chase & Co Chief Executive Officer Jamie Dimon, who called it "a fraud" that will eventually blow up. Others, like Wall Street adviser Tom Lee, expect bitcoin to top $100,000.

 

On Wednesday, its hypervolatility was on full display as it broke through $13,000 for the first time on the Luxembourg-based Bitstamp exchange, jumping more than 11 percent on the day.. Since August 2011, bitcoin has averaged a daily price change of nearly 3 percent, up or down, compared with a daily average change in the U.S. dollar-euro cross rate of less than 0.5 percent since the euro's debut in 1999.

 

"Maybe it's just the most unique market that is going to continue to go up forever and ever and so everybody on the long side is going to make money and it's a great thing, but I've been around long enough to know that's not going to work out so well," said John Lothian, CEO of advisory firm John J Lothian and Company.

 

As a virtual currency, bitcoin can be used to move money around the world without the need for a central authority, such as a bank or government, which is a double-edged sword, said Steve Grob, director of group strategy at Fidessa.

 

"There is no backstop. If suddenly tomorrow everyone decided bitcoin was worthless, it would be worthless, and I’m not sure whether people have really thought that one through," he said.

 

Traditional banks remain skeptical of dealing with bitcoin exchanges. Earlier this year, Wells Fargo & Co stopped processing wire transfers for an exchange called Bitfinex, leaving customers unable to transfer U.S. dollars out of their accounts, except through special arrangement with the exchange's lawyer.

 

Still, new entrants, from retail investors to high-frequency traders, have piled into bitcoin. U.S.-based crypto-exchange Coinbase said it added 100,000 accounts in the three days around the U.S. Thanksgiving holiday, for 13.1 million overall.

 

If the futures market were to exceed the size of the spot market, with current daily trading volume of around $6 billion per day, the underlying price could be more susceptible to manipulation, said Kevin Zhou, co-founder of crypto currency fund Galois Capital.

"You've seen these problems before in bitcoin futures, where right before the settlement, the price pegs it high or low and then bounces back right after," he said.

 

RISK OF AN 'AVALANCHE'

 

As volumes increase, there are also questions about the robustness of the technology at bitcoin exchanges, Lothian said.

 

"Particularly when you're talking about a high-frequency approach to this where people are trying to arb multiple exchanges."

 

Last month, the Gemini bitcoin exchange, which will set the price for Cboe's futures contract, and GDAX and Kraken, two of the four exchanges in CME's bitcoin index, had systems issues.

 

"Every single bitcoin exchange receives and is receiving complaints by users due to the unbelievably surging bitcoin price and the result that has on capacity," Christina Yee, a Kraken representative, recently told Reuters in an email.

 

Kraken is planning to launch a new trade engine "soon" which should increase the exchange’s capacity, Yee said.

 

The volatile nature of bitcoin could also present a risk to clearing houses, said Thomas Peterffy, CEO of Interactive Brokers Group Inc.

 

Clearing houses act as a middlemen between the parties to futures transactions. If there were a wild price swing in bitcoin and a smaller brokerage failed to meet its margin call, the clearing house would have to take over the position, further moving the price of bitcoin, which could cause other brokers to fail, Peterffy said.

 

"If that happens at a time when bitcoin spikes up for whatever crazy reason, there could be an avalanche," he said.

 

Questions like these have kept some futures market operators on the sidelines, for now. Intercontinental Exchange Inc, owner of the New York Stock Exchange and ICE Futures U.S., opted not to join CME and Cboe in the race to be first with a bitcoin future.

 

"We didn't think it was obvious to rush out a product and be first and settle against an index on a lot of exchanges that are not particularly transparent," ICE Chief Executive Jeffrey Sprecher said this week at a Goldman Sachs conference.

 

(Reporting by John McCrank and Anna Irrera; Editing by Dan Burns and Lisa Shumaker)

 
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I know a few people who have these Bitcoin. No of them have ever sold any Bitcoins and this may be the core of the problem. Nobody are selling and still a few are buying.

Once the stampede starts, it will be a race for a door that is getting smaller and smaller, by the second.

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47 minutes ago, ExpatOilWorker said:

I know a few people who have these Bitcoin. No of them have ever sold any Bitcoins and this may be the core of the problem. Nobody are selling and still a few are buying.

Once the stampede starts, it will be a race for a door that is getting smaller and smaller, by the second.

I'm sure most crypto traders realise it's a high risk game but there are fabulous riches to be made (as well as lost). If we wanted a safe and sure investment, we'd put it into a bank high-interest account and earn peanuts. 

Personally, I'd be peeved if I lost my stake, but it's only what I can afford to lose so it wouldn't be a disaster if I ended with nothing. What I'm aiming for is to double my stake money, put the original back in the bank and have fun with the rest.

 

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2 hours ago, jesimps said:

I'm sure most crypto traders realise it's a high risk game but there are fabulous riches to be made (as well as lost). If we wanted a safe and sure investment, we'd put it into a bank high-interest account and earn peanuts. 

Personally, I'd be peeved if I lost my stake, but it's only what I can afford to lose so it wouldn't be a disaster if I ended with nothing. What I'm aiming for is to double my stake money, put the original back in the bank and have fun with the rest.

 

Im the same as you. But I think its hard to sell it as I think its going to be really valuable in the coming yrs. Its now up to 15,000 and we are only just getting started. This hype on the bitcoin brand is only getting going. Imagine the price when the real demand starts

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how many hedge fund managers are beating a path to the crypto currency door?

 

how many gold shops accept crypto ?

 

 

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Bubbles ultimately burst, regardless how pretty, graceful and mesmerizing they appear. This one seems just a "bit" overblown. If futures trading "legitimizes" it, then possibly it will find a more rational/reasonable value...much closer to Earth...and well below where it is now. 

 

Mark me down for 10 Bit-cons when it falls to $100! :vampire:

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On 12/8/2017 at 8:40 AM, wombat said:

how many hedge fund managers are beating a path to the crypto currency door?

 

how many gold shops accept crypto ?

 

 

Tricky question. Zero is actually not a number.

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On 12/7/2017 at 4:17 PM, ExpatOilWorker said:

I know a few people who have these Bitcoin. No of them have ever sold any Bitcoins and this may be the core of the problem. Nobody are selling and still a few are buying.

Once the stampede starts, it will be a race for a door that is getting smaller and smaller, by the second.

what problem?

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