Army to take legal action against poster of defamatory video clips

[webfact]

Army to take legal action against poster of defamatory video clips  

By Thai PBS

 

 

The Fourth Army says it is in the process of taking legal action against people involved for posting two video clips showing an army officer is beating an army conscript with stick.

 

The poster claimed the incident happened at the army barracks within the jurisdiction of the Fourth Army Region in Southern Thailand.

 

The clips went viral on the social media and led many people into believing that the Fourth Army officers were abusing the conscript.

 

Full story: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/army-take-legal-action-poster-defamatory-video-clips/

 

-- © Copyright Thai PBS 2017-12-13

[AGareth2]

defamation

the act of the bully

[rkidlad]

Absolutely shouldn't be called 'defamation'. Should just be called 'trying to stop us from having our cake and eating it'. How twisted. 

[Ricardo]

" Moreover, the place and uniforms of the officers in the first clip clearly showed the incident did not happen in Thailand and the officers in the clip were not Thai army officers. "

 

...  from the source of the story, suggests that there might be some doubt, about the veracity of the allegations ?

[observer90210]

How about some decent action against the bully, beating the conscript ?

 

And by the way, quality tourists don't like to visit countries that mistreat their citizens.

[candide]

53 minutes ago, webfact said:

The clips went viral on the social media and led many people into believing that the Fourth Army officers were abusing the conscript.

Not abusing, just beating the crap out! 

[stephen tracy]

Pigs

[richard_smith237]

With news such as this Thailand has to be sliding further backwards on Human Rights index... 

 

It always astonishes me the level of arrogance and face used in response to these issues....

 

Instead of the response we'd see in the West... "this is unacceptable.... etc etc..." the response here is to blame those who've bravely outed unacceptable behavior and allowing the perpetrators to hide behind draconian and highly flawed Deformation Laws and Computer Crimes laws... 

 

It really is such a disappointment to see when Thailand could so easily be leading the region in human rights, freedom of speech if those in positions of power were simply brave enough and trusting enough to allow breathing space for their country to develop. 

[Bluespunk]

"On the second clip, he said it was the collection of the past several incidents between 2011-2013.

He said the Army had already appointed investigation committees to probe the incidents appeared in the second clip and had already punished all those officers involved which  included detention, imprisonment, suspension from work and dismissal."

 

So not defamatory then...just accurate. 

Edited December 13, 2017 by Bluespunk

[DM07]

...and who will define, what is "defamatory"?

 

With the libel laws, lest majeste and now this BS, Thailand will forever be stuck in 3rd world mode!

[tifino]

 

 

 

[chainarong]

1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said:

With news such as this Thailand has to be sliding further backwards on Human Rights index... 

 

It always astonishes me the level of arrogance and face used in response to these issues....

 

Instead of the response we'd see in the West... "this is unacceptable.... etc etc..." the response here is to blame those who've bravely outed unacceptable behavior and allowing the perpetrators to hide behind draconian and highly flawed Deformation Laws and Computer Crimes laws... 

 

It really is such a disappointment to see when Thailand could so easily be leading the region in human rights, freedom of speech if those in positions of power were simply brave enough and trusting enough to allow breathing space for their country to develop. 

What human rights index the lip service one , as they say , only when it suits them...........................

[CantSpell]

Share video = legal actions...

 

Erawan bombing suspect = released on bail..

 

All in a day work in La La Land... 

[kareona]

Well, in some of the video's the soldiers who were savagely beating young men spoke Thai. 

[meinphuket]

Just keep torturing and killing...

[YetAnother]

4 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

sliding further backwards on Human Rights index... 

cant imagine why military generals would champion human rights, likely the opposite;

thailand has backslid on a number of fronts, not the least being the virtual guarantee that in our lifetimes thailand's 'democracy' will be accurately labeled as 'highly flawed' (aka 'sham democracy') with the military the only real power

[newnative]

It's not defamatory if it's true.

[DefaultName]

2 minutes ago, newnative said:

It's not defamatory if it's true.

Well..... yes it can be in Thailand, unlike most of the world, being true isn't a defence here.

[Media1]

6 hours ago, DM07 said:

...and who will define, what is "defamatory"?

 

With the libel laws, lest majeste and now this BS, Thailand will forever be stuck in 3rd world mode!

Thailand 4 will handle that and 1 bar girl receptionist and Prawit and his ring

[gk10002000]

Those do NOT fit the definition lf defamatory.  Defamatory implies or mandates untruths or lies

[gk10002000]

Now granted the clips may result in negative connotations.  that is usually the key test in a slander and defamation of character law suit.  But in Thailand, they only pay attention to the damage, not whether things were true or not

[Rhys]

Closing ranks...nothing, they are above it all... sad the way it is..

[dotpoom]

12 hours ago, AGareth2 said:

defamation

the act of the bully

Rightly so, if what they were described as was inaccurate?

[Colabamumbai]

This will result in a delay in releasing the results of the dead conscripts death, the one we removed organs from.

[newnative]

9 hours ago, DefaultName said:

Well..... yes it can be in Thailand, unlike most of the world, being true isn't a defence here.

  Yes I know.  Unfortunately the case.

[hawker9000]

18 hours ago, AGareth2 said:

defamation

the act of the bully

It is amazing that any country so concerned with "face" and its global image can totally fail to recognize how the rest of the world sees this whole "defamation" thing.  It's a loud & obvious, wholesale cancellation of freedom of speech, and the whole world knows & ridicules it!

[Katipo]

If a conscript gets beaten in a forest, and the messenger gets sued, did the beating really happen? 

Edited December 14, 2017 by Katipo

[YetAnother]

9 hours ago, gk10002000 said:

Those do NOT fit the definition lf defamatory.  Defamatory implies or mandates untruths or lies

dont think that is technically true:

number 1 google search definition: "the action of damaging the good reputation of someone; slander or libel.";

as is practiced here, that is irrespective of the underlying behavior of the alleged defamed person or party; the defamation matter does not go to the heart of the original issue;

as an example, consider the matter of Jonathan Head and others much like him; 

their defamation accusers did Not say they were innocent or that the journalists' claims were false;

they merely said they were damaged and thus pressed criminal defamation charges

[digger70]

That's Not  Defamation They Don't like losing Face,,,,,,They Can't Handle The Truth,,,, 

[PAIBKK]

Thailand 4.0 is still Thailand 0.4 !!!
Or is it Thailand -4.0 ?