running bare-chested

[shaurene]

5 hours ago, colinneil said:

When i am at home i never wear a shirt ( unless its cold) that is due to the fact that on my upper body shirts irritate me.

This is because my upper body is very sensitive ( since my accident).

I never go out the gate without a shirt on, if i did my wife would have a hissy fit, as she says it is not polite.

I go for a walk every morning around my village in only shorts. I pass the locals sitting outside and they all greet me with the words RON RON  or HON HON (Khon Kaen)

[Kadilo]

2 hours ago, 12DrinkMore said:

 

It is a lack of self-confidence........

 

 

Some may argue that is why people don't take their shirts off in public. 

[robblok]

32 minutes ago, Kadilo said:

Some may argue that is why people don't take their shirts off in public. 

I have no lack of self confidence about my body.. but i still won't take my shirt off in public. It just lacks respect IMHO. 

 

I would not even take my shirt of in a gym, not done in a gym either. 

 

Only place i go without T shirt is at the beach or swimming-pool. 

 

Sometimes also when fishing to catch a few rays of sun. But not often nor long.

[Kadilo]

6 minutes ago, robblok said:

I have no lack of self confidence about my body.. but i still won't take my shirt off in public. It just lacks respect IMHO. 

 

I would not even take my shirt of in a gym, not done in a gym either. 

 

Only place i go without T shirt is at the beach or swimming-pool. 

Yeah I get what you say. Each to their own I guess. Im a beach or pool type of person myself but I can't get too emotional about others that aren't. 

Especially to the point where some posters claim to have to look away etc. Bit too much drama lama for me. 

[robblok]

Just now, Kadilo said:

Yeah I get what you say. Each to their own I guess. Im a beach or pool type of person myself but I can't get too emotional about others that aren't. 

Especially to the point where some posters claim to have to look away etc. Bit too much drama lama for me. 

I certainly don't have to look away.. I am not bothered by it. Just know that a lot of Thais are bothered by it.. obviously not all of them. But when a farang does something it always gets over examined anyway so I just make sure I don't give them reason to tick them off.. not out of fear.. but out of respect. 

 

There are limits of course to how much i bow over to accommodate people. 

[Berkshire]

4 hours ago, Time Traveller said:

No, it's people who are offended by it, triggering outrage and think that they have the moral right to tell other law abiding people what they should do, how to behave, what to wear etc.

 

It's not about the law, it's more about "community standards"...something every community in the world practices.  So who gets to decide?  Well it's the community.  For example, you may feel that it's perfectly fine for two men to passionately kiss in public.  But some communities may find that objectionable.

 

As for running without a shirt, I run all the time and I rarely see men running shirtless.  But occasionally I'll see a guy shirtless (usually a farang, but not always) and no one will say anything.  It's not that big a deal that anyone will make an issue of.  But we all sort of know that it's not cool.  That's it.  

[simon43]

It just lacks respect IMHO.

This....

But there are many people (of all nationalities) who won't understand that reason.

[Thingamabob]

Definitely not. Utterly gross.

[Berkshire]

18 minutes ago, Thingamabob said:

Definitely not. Utterly gross.

I agree.  Pretty much all Thai women also agree.  About the only folks who might find it appealing are ladyboys and certain gay guys.  So if these dudes running shirtless want to pander to this particular demographic, well, have at it.  

[MyFriend You]

9 hours ago, colinneil said:

When i am at home i never wear a shirt ( unless its cold) that is due to the fact that on my upper body shirts irritate me.

This is because my upper body is very sensitive ( since my accident).

I never go out the gate without a shirt on, if i did my wife would have a hissy fit, as she says it is not polite.

Vaseline on the nipples and under arms works for me..........

[MyFriend You]

6 hours ago, Time Traveller said:

I guess I don't have much knowledge of thai culture. Neither do the thais I train with twice a week in the local park.

Care to educate us? Lumpini park this Friday.....come on down, we'd be glad to meet an expert, but I can understand if you don't want to be seen with us lower classes

 

Is that you wearing the blue shirt??  Good for you  -  the nose on the spotter looks lke a Fahlung nose.

[seancbk]

9 hours ago, BwindiBoy said:

Why would anyone even want to?

 

So that in addition to getting fit you also get a nice tan.  

[simon43]

would it be ok to take a dump in public then

Never bothered some Chinese....

[simon43]

But why are the men and boy in that photo running with their shirts off?

I don't get it. I run on the hottest days wearing a running shirt. I never feel the urge to rip it off 'cos I'm hot.

Perhaps Benroon snagged the real reason. And I'm not gay, hence no urge to show my nipples to other men :)

[robblok]

3 minutes ago, simon43 said:

But why are the men and boy in that photo running with their shirts off?

I don't get it. I run on the hottest days wearing a running shirt. I never feel the urge to rip it off 'cos I'm hot.

Perhaps Benroon snagged the real reason. And I'm not gay, hence no urge to show my nipples to other men :)

I think a lot depends on how much you sweat.. before i found the right clothes for exercise i hated my totally soaked cotton shirt on my body. Now i got Nike dri fit shirts and I don't have that problem again

 

[Kadilo]

42 minutes ago, Benroon said:

Have you counted how many people’s food you ruin? 

Another ridiculous over reaction. 

You can make a point without having to go one extreme better than the previous one. 

What do you do on a beach for the day? Give up eating in case you throw it up? 

If they were in a restaurant shirtless I would have a degree of sympathy  but running past you ? 

[JimmyJ]

8 hours ago, Peterw42 said:

Even more so if you have a decent set of man boobs, beer belly.

 

"man boobs" = moobs

[berybert]

Benchasiri park has both a gym area and a volleyball court. Walk around there virtually anytime of day when they are in use and you will see Thai men with their shirts off. 

Also Benjakitti park same with the exercise area there. Loads working out shirtless. 

Lumpini the same. 

[chickenslegs]

Running bare chested ...

 

Sometimes it's acceptable

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sometimes it's not

 

[alien365]

I personally don't like men lifting the bottom of their shirts up to expose their beer bellies. I usually see men do this, generally just walking around and in outdoor restaurants. It's as if they're proud that they are overweight

[dfdgfdfdgs]

5 hours ago, berybert said:

Benchasiri park has both a gym area and a volleyball court. Walk around there virtually anytime of day when they are in use and you will see Thai men with their shirts off. 

 

Yes at this park it seems quite common at the gym area.  But only once or twice have I seen anybody jogging shirtless there.

 

I run marathons/half marathons etc and occasionally there'll be one guy out of a field of 1000 or so that takes their shirt off.  I can see the benefits... cooler, slightly less weight.

[BwindiBoy]

20 hours ago, Time Traveller said:

The correct answer is this. If you're a farang from a class structured society like Britain who beleives they are better than others and think it's important to project the image they are part of the upper crust of society and living in fear of what the mythical thai upper/middle class think of them, then leave your shirt on, and continue to denounce other farang especially in front of thais to hammer home the point, that you're one of the "good farangs". Reasssure yourself it's going to earn you lots of respect amongst the Thai upper/middle classes. 

 

On the other hand, if you're from the new world and don't have snowflake like qualities when it comes to what other people  think, then feel free to remove your shirt when exercising in public. There is no law against it (unless you're female). In fact, I've been doing it for 15 years, and never had a problem.  Nor do I even remember any negative comments either. If you don't beleive me, then get out more. 

 

In summary:  If you are respectable, shirt on.  If you are a Chav, shirt off.

[dfdgfdfdgs]

A bit dangerous to label everybody who isn't a sheep a 'chav'.  If there's sound reasoning behind something that society does, then sure, copy it.  If there's not, then it's not being a chav to use the logical side of your brain.

[evadgib]

 

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[BwindiBoy]

18 minutes ago, dfdgfdfdgs said:

A bit dangerous to label everybody who isn't a sheep a 'chav'.  If there's sound reasoning behind something that society does, then sure, copy it.  If there's not, then it's not being a chav to use the logical side of your brain.

So you're saying the 99.9999% of the world's population that wear clothes are just doing so because they're sheep and that there's no logical reason for wearing them?  Bizarre.

[Andrew65]

On 1/22/2018 at 9:19 AM, Time Traveller said:

The correct answer is this. If you're a farang from a class structured society like Britain who beleives they are better than others and think it's important to project the image they are part of the upper crust of society and living in fear of what the mythical thai upper/middle class think of them, then leave your shirt on, and continue to denounce other farang especially in front of thais to hammer home the point, that you're one of the "good farangs". Reasssure yourself it's going to earn you lots of respect amongst the Thai upper/middle classes. 

 

On the other hand, if you're from the new world and don't have snowflake like qualities when it comes to what other people  think, then feel free to remove your shirt when exercising in public. There is no law against it (unless you're female). In fact, I've been doing it for 15 years, and never had a problem.  Nor do I even remember any negative comments either. If you don't beleive me, then get out more. 

 

Erm, the impression that I've got, after 20 years living in BKK, is that "like Britain", Thailand is a class-based society. Rich, hi-so Thais do like to flaunt it too!

 

One problem here being that rank/status is often paid for with money, it's much less meritocratic here. As lots of us Brits are aware, money & real class don't always go together either. (I'm working class by the way).

 

However, while the West, Britain, the USA, Europe are rule-based societies, Thailand is a hierarchical-society, where the many of the upper classes both expect to, and do, "get away with murder".

 

Much more so in Thailand, prison is for the poor (yes, I realize most of us are aware of this).

 

 

[dfdgfdfdgs]

2 hours ago, BwindiBoy said:

So you're saying the 99.9999% of the world's population that wear clothes are just doing so because they're sheep and that there's no logical reason for wearing them?  Bizarre.

 

No I wasn't talking about wearing clothes.  But if I was I would just be talking about shirts, right?  Since that's what the thread is about.  Only logical reason for wearing a shirt is to protect from the sun really.  Since most people run in the evening or early morning, no need for a shirt.

[Berkshire]

2 hours ago, dfdgfdfdgs said:

A bit dangerous to label everybody who isn't a sheep a 'chav'.  If there's sound reasoning behind something that society does, then sure, copy it.  If there's not, then it's not being a chav to use the logical side of your brain.

You make it sound as if being respectful of societal norms is somehow wrong.  It's pretty darn easy to just do what one feels like doing.  But being respectful and considerate of others require a bit more social awareness and intelligence. 

[dfdgfdfdgs]

2 minutes ago, Berkshire said:

You make it sound as if being respectful of societal norms is somehow wrong.  It's pretty darn easy to just do what one feels like doing.  But being respectful and considerate of others require a bit more social awareness and intelligence. 

It's not wrong, just a bit odd that we should all copy each other and chasten those who don't for being 'disrespectful'.  You've obviously bought into the idea of a traditional society being a good thing.  Maybe it is or maybe it isn't, but it's not the only way and the people who choose to think outside the box shouldn't be dismissed just because they are different.  Most of the worlds most prominent revolutionaries/progressives/inventors decided to do something that other people didn't do.  Where would we be without their logical thought processes?

[isaanbanhou]

3 minutes ago, dfdgfdfdgs said:

It's not wrong, just a bit odd that we should all copy each other and chasten those who don't for being 'disrespectful'.  You've obviously bought into the idea of a traditional society being a good thing.  Maybe it is or maybe it isn't, but it's not the only way and the people who choose to think outside the box shouldn't be dismissed just because they are different.  Most of the worlds most prominent revolutionaries/progressives/inventors decided to do something that other people didn't do.  Where would we be without their logical thought processes?

 

well if taking your shirt off and running bare chested makes you revolutionary, progessive or an inventor in your world, I will gladly pay for a thai and english tattoo stating your exalted status and requesting others not to judge you by social norms.