SURVEY: Do you want Trump to finish his first term?

[simple1]

An excellent article which IMO puts the OP in perspective for the anti Trump resistance.

 

When power dominates truth, criticism becomes betrayal. 

 

https://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21740741-dangerous-republican-party-organised-around-one-man

[xylophone]

On ‎09‎/‎04‎/‎2018 at 1:20 PM, Jingthing said:

Traditionally when a president wins but loses the popular vote he works very hard to unify a divided nation. "trump" has done the opposite catering only to his rather narrow base and creating even worse divisions

And then there is his constant lying and the pulling of wool over the eyes of his "heartland" base..............

 

If there is such a thing as a capital crime in economics, it is Donald Trump's exorbitant fiscal stimulus at the top of the cycle.

 

There is no justification for Trump's stimulus. The output gap has already closed. The fiscal "multiplier" is less than one.

 

The US unemployment rate is approaching a 48-year low. The New York Fed's "underlying inflation gauge" surged to 3.14 per cent in March, the highest since 2005.

 

As an aside, the IMF's Fiscal Monitor noted that the lion's share of Trump's tax cuts go to the rich.

The poorest two quintiles enjoy crumbs at first but are ultimately left worse off.

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[heybruce]

10 hours ago, simple1 said:

An excellent article which IMO puts the OP in perspective for the anti Trump resistance.

 

When power dominates truth, criticism becomes betrayal. 

 

https://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21740741-dangerous-republican-party-organised-around-one-man

It is an excellent article, worth reading in its entirety.  I wish I could cut and paste all of it, but will settle for this:

 

"At the heart of his system of power is his contempt for the truth. ... Mr Trump does not—perhaps cannot—distinguish between facts and falsehoods."

"When power dominates truth, criticism becomes betrayal. Critics cannot appeal to neutral facts and remain loyal, because facts are not neutral."

 

The article expands upon the dangers of Trump's alternate reality.

[Jingthing]

Yes, excellent.

Everyone should read it. Especially people that aren't "trump" fans (that are beyond hope) that think "trump" is just another normally bad president. The American democracy is under a historic challenge now to survive the disaster of the election of "trump." Victory is not certain. 

[Jingthing]

So IF "trump" makes it to 2020, will he even run again?

 

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It’s becoming clear that Trump won’t run in 2020

This emperor is running short on clothes.

 

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It is true that GOP leaders stand silent as President Trump trashes the rule of law, attacks federal judges and declares America’s free press the “enemy of the people.” These lap dogs even remain muzzled as younger Americans are chained to a future of crippling debt. And they shame the memory of the first Republican president — who gave his life ending slavery — by marching alongside a bumbling bigot who labels Hispanics “breeders” and “rapists,” seeks to bar tens of millions of Muslims from entering the country, and defends white supremacy in the ugly aftermath of Charlottesville.

 

 

 

 

http://www.paywallnews.com/life/Opinion-|-It’s-becoming-clear-that-Trump-won’t-run-in-2020.S1WNXBe_3G.html

[bristolboy]

On 4/21/2018 at 12:47 AM, heybruce said:

I wish I could believe that.  However first we will need a new Congress not in the pockets of lobbyists, and for that new Congress we will need serious campaign finance reform.

To get serious campaign finance reform you're going to need a seriously different Supreme Court.

[sukhumvitneon]

40 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

To get serious campaign finance reform you're going to need a seriously different Supreme Court.

Nope.

 

Neither side is going to give up unlimited spending now that Pandora's Box has been opened.

[bristolboy]

41 minutes ago, sukhumvitneon said:

Nope.

 

Neither side is going to give up unlimited spending now that Pandora's Box has been opened.

Well, since the super wealthy favor the party that gives them the biggest tax breaks, and that party happens to be Republicans, they will continue to mostly support Republicans. It was the liberal Supreme Court justices who opposed the decision to allow unlimited spending by individuals.

[Silurian]

Excellent satirical opinion piece.

 

Opinion: Right there in the middle of 5th Avenue

 

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Congressional Republicans and conservative leaders rallied around President Trump Friday, attempting to minimize political damage after Trump shot down a man in the middle of Fifth Avenue in New York City.

 

[Johnniey]

Trump should have stuck to his guns and pulled out of Syria.

 

 

[lannarebirth]

33 minutes ago, Johnniey said:

Trump should have stuck to his guns and pulled out of Syria.

 

 

 

It's an important exchange between knowledgeable parties. I'm going to present the original exchange here sans alt media cheerleaders as people tend to focus on messengers rather than messages these days.

 

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/04/13/jeffrey_sachs_to_president_trump_please_get_us_out_of_syria_weve_done_enough_damage.html

[Skywalker69]

RUSSIA SAYS IT TOLD U.S. WHERE IN SYRIA IT WAS ALLOWED TO BOMB

 

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov has claimed that Moscow dictated where U.S., British and French forces were allowed to attack in the weekend's air strikes on suspected Syrian chemical weapons facilities, Sky News reported.

 

Coalition forces destroyed three storage and production sites in response to an alleged April 7 chemical attack on civilians that killed at least 40 people in the rebel-held city of Douma, near Damascus.

 

http://www.newsweek.com/now-russia-says-it-told-us-where-syria-it-was-allowed-bomb-895204

[Jingthing]

The multiple legal problems that "trump" faces are real, regardless of what his "lawyers" may have told him.

 

http://www.paywallnews.com/life/Opinion-|-Are-Trump’s-lawyers-selling-him-a-bill-of-goods--or-is-he-not-listening-.rJDF2BqhM.html

 

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WASHINGTON POST 

Trump operates in legal Neverland.

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It can also “provide a potent platform for educating the public about the ugly details of how this presidency arose from a swamp far dirtier than the one Trump promised to drain.”

 

Trump should get lawyers brave and persistent enough to tell him the truth. Maybe they have and he refuses to believe them or believes only what he wants. Either way, he cannot escape legal troubles by wishing them away — no matter how many times Sean Hannity tells him that he’s in no legal peril.

 

 

[Silurian]

Presidential photo at Barbara Bush's funeral. One president missing...

 

 

 

President Carter was on a personal trip and his wife is recovering from an illness.

 

Oh and Melania looks so happy!

 

Edited April 23, 2018 by Silurian

[boomerangutang]

54 minutes ago, Silurian said:

Presidential photo at Barbara Bush's funeral. One president missing...

 

 

 

President Carter was on a personal trip and his wife is recovering from an illness.

 

Oh and Melania looks so happy!

 

Thanks for posting that photo.  Everyone looks good.  No kidding.

After suffering 15 months of Trump (after a seemingly endless ugly campaign), it's refreshing to see the presidents and their wives in an uplifting photo.  

 

Republicans work so damn hard, day and night, at demonizing the Clintons and Obamas, ....but this pic shows them to be the good people they are.  It's like a tall glass of fresh water.

[Berkshire]

1 hour ago, Silurian said:

Presidential photo at Barbara Bush's funeral. One president missing...

 

 

 

President Carter was on a personal trip and his wife is recovering from an illness.

 

Oh and Melania looks so happy!

 

Funny thing happened at the funeral.  Melania actually smiled.  It wasn't lost on the public that she typically looks miserable around Trump.  Who can blame her...

 

[The general consensus on Twitter is that Melania looks happy for the first time in a while and it's quite the coincidence that it happens to be at an event (even a devastatingly sad one like a funeral) that she's attending without her husband.]

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/barack-obama-made-melania-trump-163000107.html?.tsrc=jtc_news_index

 

[janclaes47]

1 hour ago, Silurian said:

Presidential photo at Barbara Bush's funeral. One president missing...

 

 

 

President Carter was on a personal trip and his wife is recovering from an illness.

 

Oh and Melania looks so happy!

 

 

1 hour ago, Silurian said:

Presidential photo at Barbara Bush's funeral. One president missing...

 

Someone has to operate the camera.

[boomerangutang]

4 minutes ago, janclaes47 said:

Someone has to operate the camera.

They could have asked the camel driver to take the pic.

[boomerangutang]

1 hour ago, Silurian said:

Presidential photo at Barbara Bush's funeral. One president missing...

President Carter was on a personal trip and his wife is recovering from an illness.

Oh and Melania looks so happy!

Michelle in 2020!

....but America isn't ready for a strong, wise person as prez.  ...not if rednecks and Russkies keep getting their way.

[freebyrd]

On 28/01/2018 at 1:17 PM, EVENKEEL said:

Trump will finish the term. Sit back and enjoy the ride.

Thank goodness for the TV remote control so I can switch channel every time his thatch appears.

[F4UCorsair]

48 minutes ago, boomerangutang said:

Thanks for posting that photo.  Everyone looks good.  No kidding.

After suffering 15 months of Trump (after a seemingly endless ugly campaign), it's refreshing to see the presidents and their wives in an uplifting photo.  

 

Republicans work so damn hard, day and night, at demonizing the Clintons and Obamas, ....but this pic shows them to be the good people they are.  It's like a tall glass of fresh water.

 

 

 

How does a photo 'show them to be the good people they are'??

 

All smiling broadly at a funeral??

[boomerangutang]

2 hours ago, F4UCorsair said:

How does a photo 'show them to be the good people they are'??

All smiling broadly at a funeral??

To answer your Q:  First, I feel I know those folks rather well.  Like most Americans, I've been following their lives for the past decades.

Secondly, I'm a rather good judge of character, and a lot can be surmised from looking at a person smiling.  

As for '....at a funeral.'   Westerners, and most people ww are taught to be miserable at a funeral.  It ties in with 'fear of death' and 'sorrow for departed' that we're all supposed to embrace. 

 

Similar to a dixieland band playing at a New Orleans funeral, I don't subscribe to the concept that death/funerals are places where people are supposed to be sad.   If I felt sad every time a being died, I'd be miserable all the time, because people and animals are dying each second.  As Jerry Lee Lewis said, "don't send me flowers when I die, send 'em to me while I'm alive, so can appreciate 'em."

[Jingthing]

Yes and a funeral is different when it's a very old person that has lived a wonderful life. More of a recognition of that and even a celebration type thing. It's not exactly shocking for a very old person to die.

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[Opl]

2 hours ago, F4UCorsair said:

 

 

 

How does a photo 'show them to be the good people they are'??

 

All smiling broadly at a funeral??

 

To me, this picture shows how these  persons shared kindness in a moment of pain . these feelings are not exclusive . 

When you are mouning, all you need is sincere sympathy and it seems, it's the case.

Probably the ceremony was harmonious, and the result is captured in this picture.

This smile is all you hope at a funeral.  

    

[Andaman Al]

3 hours ago, F4UCorsair said:

 

 

 

How does a photo 'show them to be the good people they are'??

 

All smiling broadly at a funeral??

The funeral was about a celebration of a life the old "don't tell me how they died, tell me how they lived" cliche.

The Bush family, love them or hate them were/are as tight nit a family as you could hope for. I only wish I could have seen my own parents through until my 70's rather than being 26/40.

Maybe you can only understand the feeling of warmth they were clearly expressing in the photo if you have belonged to a family where it has been a joy to be part of.

 

George and Laura understand what mourning is and feel happy for their mother, obviously helped on by their unswerving faith. Check the final words - pity DJT could not have been more "thoughtful" and put aside his ego and his golf for a day. Melanie must despise him.

 

You try and spin everything. Here it is from the horses mouth.

 

 

Edited April 23, 2018 by Andaman Al

[Jingthing]

The republicans losing the house would be a NIGHTMARE for "trump."

You don't say!  

 

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Why losing the House would be a personal disaster for Donald Trump.

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But for the president, the concerns are much more personal. A Democratic takeover would be catastrophic. Instantly, the House would be converted into a hive of investigatory bodies. In a Democratic House, the grand Washington battle will no longer be Trump versus Mueller. It will be Trump versus 21 subpoena-wielding House committee chairmen, played out in public on a 24-hour televised loop.

 

 

 

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/04/donald-trumps-personal-nightmare-for-2019-is-losing-the-house.html

[Scott]

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[Watchful]

OK, let's try this.  In spite of LA Times, Mike Pompeo will be confirmed as the new Secretary of State.

 

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-ca-essential-politics-20180423-story.html