canopy Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 I live in the mountains in Thailand. So a vehicle with a strong engine for confidently going up steep grades and a good chassis for comfort through the curves that can also haul things and go through rough terrain when asked would be very practical. When I glimpsed the raptor i thought maybe this could be it, but no, sigh. Not with that engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaseTheBass Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 I live in the mountains in Thailand. So a vehicle with a strong engine for confidently going up steep grades and a good chassis for comfort through the curves that can also haul things and go through rough terrain when asked would be very practical. When I glimpsed the raptor i thought maybe this could be it, but no, sigh. Not with that engine. You'd better import an F150 or a Tacoma from Laos then.Sent from my SM-G925F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 34 minutes ago, JustAnotherFarang said: I saw the american version on The Grand Tour with Jeremy Clarkson at the wheel. Have to say I was quite impressed with it. Anyone know what price it will be as I have had my Vigo for 8 years now and fancy a change JAF Has your 8 years of Vigo been trouble free..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavisH Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 52 minutes ago, transam said: They quote specific ratios..Last four are after 1 to 1..Perhaps a very low rear end ratio... It's the same box as in the F150. I read that the 2.0 is good for about 235HP. So there is some tuning potential and don't have to worry about the trans giving way. The F150 has 691 NM. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustAnotherFarang Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, transam said: Has your 8 years of Vigo been trouble free..? It has, point taken. Why change something that works well on a whim of fancy JAF 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedtripler Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 19 minutes ago, canopy said: I live in the mountains in Thailand. So a vehicle with a strong engine for confidently going up steep grades and a good chassis for comfort through the curves that can also haul things and go through rough terrain when asked would be very practical. When I glimpsed the raptor i thought maybe this could be it, but no, sigh. Not with that engine. Did you miss the part where the figures said this engine produces MORE power than the old 3.2L? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleTouchyFingers Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 30 minutes ago, canopy said: I live in the mountains in Thailand. So a vehicle with a strong engine for confidently going up steep grades and a good chassis for comfort through the curves that can also haul things and go through rough terrain when asked would be very practical. When I glimpsed the raptor i thought maybe this could be it, but no, sigh. Not with that engine. Man WHAT would you buy then? What, in Thailand, is better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleTouchyFingers Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, speedtripler said: Did you miss the part where the figures said this engine produces MORE power than the old 3.2L? LOL I’m pretty sure that’s been mentioned several times. Hell I screenshot a graph detailing it complete with links to review. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, speedtripler said: Did you miss the part where the figures said this engine produces MORE power than the old 3.2L? If one is looking for a foot to the floor truck on a daily bases then a couple of horse power may interest, but to me most here want a torquie engine to do the job with reliability, not a high tech thing that may not have longevity built in... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxipeon Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 470 Nm 3.2 / 500Nm raptor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 13 minutes ago, maxipeon said: 470 Nm 3.2 / 500Nm raptor Be interested to know the RPM range those figures arise... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavisH Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, transam said: Be interested to know the RPM range those figures arise... I did read this, and recall it being 1500-2500 rpm. That's a lot of torque from low rpm. The small turbo gets it going then shuts off and the big turbo gives the higher end power. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamuraii Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 2.0L Diesel KeK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 29 minutes ago, DavisH said: I did read this, and recall it being 1500-2500 rpm. That's a lot of torque from low rpm. The small turbo gets it going then shuts off and the big turbo gives the higher end power. But a narrow band, where l suppose the multi gears come into it's equation... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canopy Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 Did you miss the part where the figures said this engine produces MORE power than the old 3.2L? Peak horse power alone can often be a marketing gimmick because some engines are peaky or only good in unused RPM ranges. I don't know much about either engine but I would suspect the 3.2L could be stronger in important ranges. I'd like to see a dyno comparison of the two engines to form an opinion of which is better. Man WHAT would you buy then? I don't know the choices of what's out there. Maybe one day a good tuner will drop in a bigger engine? It scares me how Ford describes the raptor as not designed for acceleration. In the mountains passing zones are rare and short and right before blind corners. Every millisecond is needed standing on my old vigo accelerator to stand a chance of passing safely. I would prefer something much more powerful than that for my next vehicle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaseTheBass Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 Did you miss the part where the figures said this engine produces MORE power than the old 3.2L? Peak horse power alone can often be a marketing gimmick because some engines are peaky or only good in unused RPM ranges. I don't know much about either engine but I would suspect the 3.2L could be stronger in important ranges. I'd like to see a dyno comparison of the two engines to form an opinion of which is better. Man WHAT would you buy then? I don't know the choices of what's out there. Maybe one day a good tuner will drop in a bigger engine? It scares me how Ford describes the raptor as not designed for acceleration. In the mountains passing zones are rare and short and right before blind corners. Every millisecond is needed standing on my old vigo accelerator to stand a chance of passing safely. I would prefer something much more powerful than that for my next vehicle. 'Nothing'Glad we got that sorted.Sent from my SM-G925F using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedtripler Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 People are shitting on the most powerful truck on the market just because its a Ford.... Lol It's only the start of the year but let's see what everybody else is going to release It's worth keeping in mind thais can't afford a huge v8 that runs on benzene anyway so not much point in marketing one, is there? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaseTheBass Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 People are shitting on the most powerful truck on the market just because its a Ford.... Lol It's only the start of the year but let's see what everybody else is going to release It's worth keeping in mind thais can't afford a huge v8 that runs on benzene anyway so not much point in marketing one, is there? Lots of ignorance here - just look at Toyota's sales figures!Sent from my SM-G925F using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleTouchyFingers Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 3 hours ago, canopy said: Did you miss the part where the figures said this engine produces MORE power than the old 3.2L? Peak horse power alone can often be a marketing gimmick because some engines are peaky or only good in unused RPM ranges. I don't know much about either engine but I would suspect the 3.2L could be stronger in important ranges. I'd like to see a dyno comparison of the two engines to form an opinion of which is better. Man WHAT would you buy then? I don't know the choices of what's out there. Maybe one day a good tuner will drop in a bigger engine? It scares me how Ford describes the raptor as not designed for acceleration. In the mountains passing zones are rare and short and right before blind corners. Every millisecond is needed standing on my old vigo accelerator to stand a chance of passing safely. I would prefer something much more powerful than that for my next vehicle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isaanbanhou Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 1 hour ago, speedtripler said: People are shitting on the most powerful truck on the market just because its a Ford.... Lol It's only the start of the year but let's see what everybody else is going to release It's worth keeping in mind thais can't afford a huge v8 that runs on benzene anyway so not much point in marketing one, is there? Odd they sell them full size F150`s and Raptors in the Philippines and yet Thailand has a per capita income twice of the Philippines. www.ford.com.ph You should contact the Mercedes, Porsche, Ferrari and Rolls Royce dealers in Thailand quickly and tell them they are about to go out of business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleTouchyFingers Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, isaanbanhou said: Odd they sell them full size F150`s and Raptors in the Philippines and yet Thailand has a per capita income twice of the Philippines. www.ford.com.ph You should contact the Mercedes, Porsche, Ferrari and Rolls Royce dealers in Thailand quickly and tell them they are about to go out of business. Ford doesnt have F-150's listed for sale on that ford website, and they dont sell the raptor yet either - Its "Coming Soon". They sell the Ranger apparently but not the Raptor. Its becoming clear that people are confusing the F-150 with the Ranger/Raptor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isaanbanhou Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, UncleTouchyFingers said: Ford doesnt have F-150's listed for sale on that ford website, and they dont sell the raptor yet either - Its "Coming Soon". They sell the Ranger apparently but not the Raptor. Its becoming clear that people are confusing the F-150 with the Ranger/Raptor. http://ph.priceprice.com/Ford-F-150-F-Series-9333/ if they don t sell them in Phil why do they list the price in Phil pesos it`s becoming clear that some posters need to stop drinking and go to sleep 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedtripler Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 30 minutes ago, isaanbanhou said: Odd they sell them full size F150`s and Raptors in the Philippines and yet Thailand has a per capita income twice of the Philippines. www.ford.com.ph You should contact the Mercedes, Porsche, Ferrari and Rolls Royce dealers in Thailand quickly and tell them they are about to go out of business. Somehow, I doubt ferrari and rolls Royce are aiming for the same clientele as Fords 2 litre diesel but forward your opinion to [email protected] just to be on the safe side.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isaanbanhou Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 2 hours ago, speedtripler said: It's worth keeping in mind thais can't afford a huge v8 that runs on benzene anyway so not much point in marketing one, is there? Well genius, you were the one that said it. i didn t know that the merc`s, ferraris and rolls have 2.2 litre diesels inserted before they are sold in Thailand . i love it you are so flexible you can argue both sides of an argument at the same time. self pleasure much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleTouchyFingers Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 24 minutes ago, isaanbanhou said: http://ph.priceprice.com/Ford-F-150-F-Series-9333/ if they don t sell them in Phil why do they list the price in Phil pesos it`s becoming clear that some posters need to stop drinking and go to sleep You do understand that those Trucks are imported right? And that they are not for sale from Ford in the Philippines right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isaanbanhou Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, speedtripler said: It's worth keeping in mind thais can't afford a huge v8 that runs on benzene anyway so not much point in marketing one, is there? 9 minutes ago, UncleTouchyFingers said: And that they are not for sale from Ford in the Philippines right? Yes I can read. I was showing the fallacy of speedtriplers argument that Thais can t afford V8. phil drive on the same side of the road as america so importing is certainly easier than into thailand. They sell the ford expedition in Phil. It is about the size of a garbage truck. https://www.ford.com.ph/suvs/expedition/ Edited February 10, 2018 by isaanbanhou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleTouchyFingers Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 Just now, isaanbanhou said: Yes I can read. I was showing the fallacy of speedtriplers argument that Thais can t afford V8. phil drive on the same side of the road as america so importing is certainly easier than into thailand. Im pretty sure youre the one that needs to set the drink down. Rich flippers importing overpriced pickups proves nothing at all. Rich Thais import overpriced everything too but it proves nothing other than there are rich people that buy expensive stuff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isaanbanhou Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, UncleTouchyFingers said: Rich Thais import overpriced everything too but it proves nothing other than there are rich people that buy expensive stuff. your buddy says thais can t afford a v8, he hasn t the courage or intelligence to back it up. so he gets his lapdog to do whatever he can to obfuscate the topic. I`m not surprised the two of you post in unison, I think it`s called a dutch rudder 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedtripler Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 6 minutes ago, isaanbanhou said: your buddy says thais can t afford a v8, he hasn t the courage or intelligence to back it up. so he gets his lapdog to do whatever he can to obfuscate the topic. I`m not surprised the two of you post in unison, I think it`s called a dutch rudder Your logic is just broken.... The loaded 1% who buy ferrari or rolls wouldn't be seen dead in a pickup... Have you ever been to thailand?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isaanbanhou Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 3 hours ago, speedtripler said: Your logic is just broken.... The loaded 1% who buy ferrari or rolls wouldn't be seen dead in a pickup... Have you ever been to thailand?? yes , there a bmw and mercedes dealer up the road in Ubon. Even out here in the sticks there is money my friend. The second most unequal income distribution in the world, i believe. As to your knowledge of the 1%, 555, other than watching lakorn with your teerak, the closest you have been to wealthy is the night the bar manager of the paradise pub comped you a couple of leos. 4 hours ago, isaanbanhou said: 6 hours ago, speedtripler said: It's worth keeping in mind thais can't afford a huge v8 that runs on benzene anyway so not much point in marketing one, is there? Does that mean that the companies that sell luxury cars Thailand are owned by people with inferior minds to you? www.facebook.com/rollsroycemotorcarsbangkok www.bangkok.ferraridealers.com/ www.facebook.com/Bentleythailand www.lamborghini-bangkok.com/en www.facebook.com/maserati.thailand www.facebook.com/Bugatti20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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