CLW Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 To start of with, I read many topics here about trouble and tax about foreign car import to Thailand. I don't know if someone is following the recent debate in Germany about the diesel and NOx emissions.To come to the point. Second hand car prices of diesel cars, that are less than five years old, hit rock bottom prices. Would that justify an attempt to import a car to Thailand? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hkt83100 Posted March 15, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 15, 2018 No. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NanLaew Posted March 15, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 15, 2018 The fact that the US and EU will be banning diesel engined cars thus rendering them worthless will have no impact on what the Thai tax man reckons is in your wallet. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post transam Posted March 16, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 16, 2018 Total waste of time for the reason you quote...Now if it were one of these and you had deep pockets then go for it..... 7 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post eezergood Posted March 16, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 16, 2018 yes go for it, all those thousands of posts and stories of cars never being delivers are rubbish. You can do it easy mate 2 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgrahmm Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Nobody - including myself - knows of anybody that has successfully done it..... On mine they kept finding different clauses....Finally they told me the law changed while it was on the container ship..... They kept it..... One of the criteria they cited was you have to have owned it 3 years prior.....Which I had (7) .... I miss that 4x4..... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAKAPALITA Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 7 hours ago, NanLaew said: The fact that the US and EU will be banning diesel engined cars thus rendering them worthless will have no impact on what the Thai tax man reckons is in your wallet. What will the Taxman make of Electric Cars.Brace yourself for another round off cock ups chaps. 11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canthai55 Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 M1 Tanker did it with a BMW bike. So is doableSent from my [device_name] using http://Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giddyup Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 13 minutes ago, canthai55 said: M1 Tanker did it with a BMW bike. So is doable Sent from my [device_name] using http://Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Pretty much anything is doable if you throw enough money at it and have infinite patience. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExpatOilWorker Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 To do it all on your own would be tough, maybe even impossible as evident from the posts above. However cars are imported to Thailand all the time. The "grey" market importers have a bit of a bad reputation, for good reasons of course, after some high profile super cars caught fire. If you align yourself with a trustworthy company and let them handle the paperwork, it could very well be doable. Personally I wouldn't like to drive a car with the steering column in the left hand side in Thailand, so that close the doors for continental European and American cars. What kind of cars have you been looking at? You mind sharing? I do know of a family that imports 2,000 cars a year, but not only to Thailand. I what the import tax rules are at the moment next time I meed them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canthai55 Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 56 minutes ago, giddyup said: Pretty much anything is doable if you throw enough money at it and have infinite patience. Read his thread. Took 2 years, no tea money, just jumping thru the hoops. Research - then you will know. I read his post, so know what is what. You did not - judging by the response above. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giddyup Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, canthai55 said: Read his thread. Took 2 years, no tea money, just jumping thru the hoops. Research - then you will know. I read his post, so know what is what. You did not - judging by the response above. One success out of countless failures. One swallow does not a summer make. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eezergood Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 spares, servicing, insurance........ to name but a few more hurdles. The op was, it seems, looking to import in order to save a few bob - If he had Ferrari Daytona(s) or Aston DB5s then it maybe worth the hassle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuvoc Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Why is it such a problem ? I'm aware of the huge duties and taxes that are levied, but apart from that why is it not an easy process ? My wife was thinking of bringing our BMW to Thailand when we move there in a couple of years time. I don't want to do that - it is too old, finding someone knowledgeable to fix and maintain it, parts availability etc are issues as well as the economics don't make sense. Any other reasons not to would be very useful to have. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KhunBENQ Posted March 16, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 16, 2018 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Tuvoc said: Why is it such a problem ? No problem at all Just read through this ("A Permanent Import of Personal Vehicles"): http://en.customs.go.th/content.php?lang=en&ini_content=individuals_151007_01&&left_menu=menu_individuals_151007_01 A dozen or so papers from misc sources incl. the commerce ministry and from home country sources, a customs officer in good mood (which a stack of cash can help), pay 200+ percent tax and there you are. Ignore the warnings, they are all envy because they have to buy locally https://www.angloinfo.com/how-to/thailand/transport/vehicle-ownership/importing-a-car I suggest to import cars which are close to unknown here so that you have some challenge for the mechanics. A diversion from their boring job of fixing Japanese trucks and cars. Edited March 16, 2018 by KhunBENQ 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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KhunBENQ Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 1 hour ago, eezergood said: The op was, it seems, looking to import in order to save a few bob Totally unrealistic. And the unwanted (talked down) diesels will go to Africa anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunBENQ Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 2 hours ago, ExpatOilWorker said: If you align yourself with a trustworthy company and let them handle the paperwork, it could very well be doable. Absolutely! Outsource to a professional if you are desperate for THAT car. And don't try it for saving money! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuvoc Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 10 minutes ago, KhunBENQ said: No problem at all Just read through this ("A Permanent Import of Personal Vehicles"): http://en.customs.go.th/content.php?lang=en&ini_content=individuals_151007_01&&left_menu=menu_individuals_151007_01 A dozen or so papers from misc sources incl. the commerce ministry and from home country sources, a customs officer in good mood (which a stack of cash can help), pay 200+ percent tax and there you are. Ignore the warnings, they are all envy because they have to buy locally https://www.angloinfo.com/how-to/thailand/transport/vehicle-ownership/importing-a-car I suggest to import cars which are close to unknown here so that you have some challenge for the mechanics. A diversion from their boring job of fixing Japanese trucks and cars. I see - a bureaucratic nightmare. It mentions you need to present a work permit ? When coming to Thailand to retire you won't have one of those. Do anything slightly wrong, and they confiscate your car. Nice... I was aware of the 200%+ tax but it depends on the value they assess. In terms of mechanics, BMWs seem so rare outside Bangkok I'd be concerned about any mechanic (outside of a BMW dealer perhaps) being able to fix the car, even if they like the "diversion". Anyway I think I have enough information now to advise my wife that it is a daft thing to be thinking of doing. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catman20 Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 5 hours ago, pgrahmm said: Nobody - including myself - knows of anybody that has successfully done it..... On mine they kept finding different clauses....Finally they told me the law changed while it was on the container ship..... They kept it..... One of the criteria they cited was you have to have owned it 3 years prior.....Which I had (7) .... I miss that 4x4..... i knew 1 guy that did import his car from the UK he said he would never do it again and he has not, he buys his cars here now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgrahmm Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, catman20 said: i knew 1 guy that did import his car from the UK he said he would never do it again and he has not, he buys his cars here now. That had to be a good while ago...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i claudius Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Tried it years ago .never saw it again . A nightmareSent from my SM-A720F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ54 Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 I have a 2007 Harley Davidson Streetglide in US like new, new paint, new motor. Never wrecked. Value in US @ $8500-9000 USD. Called several places in Thailand and had sticker shock to import to. HD BK told me to import would be almost same as buying new. New Streetglide is 1,800,000 Baht = $60,000 USD. I rent big bikes in CM and called owner to find out more. Told me he wanted to buy some Triumphs to rent for the shop. Now that Thai builds domestically then the high import tax would be removed. Nope...... now they add luxury tax. So I gave up on importing my Harley and hate to say sold it yesterday in US. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Deerhunter Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 (edited) As long as they can charge 200 or 300 percent duty onto a valuation they make which includes freight, you will probably end up doing do what most people who have tried, do and that is abandon the car to them to keep for themselves. And they won't even say thank you for your car. And you may one day see it being driven around BKK by someone's Mia noi. Good luck if you choose to try. If I remember correctly the duty is 220 percent on under 2 litres and 330 percent over 2 litres but it is over 4 years ago that I did the exercise. Edited March 16, 2018 by The Deerhunter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgrahmm Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 15 minutes ago, i claudius said: Tried it years ago .never saw it again . A nightmare Sent from my SM-A720F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Ditto...My guess is the positioning/bidding starts once they have the mandatory supplied vehicle pictures.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell17au Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 2 hours ago, Tuvoc said: I see - a bureaucratic nightmare. It mentions you need to present a work permit ? When coming to Thailand to retire you won't have one of those. Do anything slightly wrong, and they confiscate your car. Nice... I was aware of the 200%+ tax but it depends on the value they assess. In terms of mechanics, BMWs seem so rare outside Bangkok I'd be concerned about any mechanic (outside of a BMW dealer perhaps) being able to fix the car, even if they like the "diversion". Anyway I think I have enough information now to advise my wife that it is a daft thing to be thinking of doing. Don't come to Khon Kaen because there are BMW's and Merc's everywhere here 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell17au Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 I thought about bringing my car to Thailand but all the rubbish that you have to go through before you can even think about loading it onto a ship. Then when it does arrive the customs officer will put the value onto it for you then they add the freight and the freight insurance and then they will add a bit more just for good luck. This is the car that I wanted to bring to Thailand. It is an Australian built 1989 Ford LTD Stretch Limo and it was going to cost me from leaving Australia to landing it in Bangkok and driving it off the wharf was 2,000,000฿. The car is still in Australia. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechnikaIII Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 (edited) In a heartbeat, I would order one of these but would prefer not to risk having it in Thailand for many reasons, quite aside from the exorbitant 'jealousy tax'. Edited March 16, 2018 by TechnikaIII 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ54 Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 (edited) Haven’t been home in 19 months thought it best for the bike to let it go Edited March 16, 2018 by DJ54 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericthai Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 11 hours ago, pgrahmm said: Nobody - including myself - knows of anybody that has successfully done it..... On mine they kept finding different clauses....Finally they told me the law changed while it was on the container ship..... They kept it..... One of the criteria they cited was you have to have owned it 3 years prior.....Which I had (7) .... I miss that 4x4..... My one friend did it, but he is Thai. He lived in the USA for 20 years and imported his Ferrari when he returned. His family has connections so I'm sure that is why he got his in. He is the only person I know of, several friends have talked about it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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