Vorayuth pursuit ‘harmed’ by Interpol

[fxe1200]

7 hours ago, wotsdermatter said:

Is there any evidence to show it was posted on the Interpol website?  Just curious because the absence of the notice was displayed but never the fact that it was there, if my memory serves me right.

 

Yes, I saw the red notice, and actually it was the only one from Thailand. Now, as everybody knows, it is gone.

[thaichiro]

2 hours ago, JOC said:

Why?

Is your personal life affected in an way by him being on the run.....?....

Actually yes because living here in Thailand we all have the hope that for once justice will be meted out fairly, reguardless of position or power. This defines a proper culture and civilization and we all hope that Thailand will someday achieve that level of judicial fairness.

[Just Weird]

4 hours ago, Jack Mountain said:

Just put a bounty on his head, dead or alive whatever ... and you'll see how quick this will be solved.

You watch too much TV!  This is the real world!

 

"...dead or alive..."

Geez...he's wanted for traffic offences! 

Edited March 18, 2018 by Just Weird

[peperobi]

None like to arrest him, he kills "only a police officer", probably is the guy in Thailand and enjoy the family!

[connda]

It just goes to show that corruption is endemic globally and not just locally here in the LOS.  The uber-wealthy have immense leverage over the justice systems.

[Just Weird]

3 hours ago, JOC said:

Why?

Is your personal life affected in an way by him being on the run.....?....

Excellent!

[Just Weird]

1 hour ago, Stocky said:

Remarkable coincidence the 'red notice' magically disappears just as the new Formula 1 season is about to begin, if they want to catch him he'll be here or thereabouts on the following dates:

 

• 25 March,  Melbourne, Australia
• 8 April, Sakhir, Bahrain
• 15 April, Shanghai, China
• 29 April, Baku, Azerbaijan
• 13 May, Barcelona, Spain
• 27 May, Monaco, Monaco
• 10 June, Montreal, Canada
• 24 June, Le Castellet, France
• 1 July, Spielberg, Austria
• 8 July, Silverstone, Great Britain
• 22 July, Hockenheim, Germany
• 29 July, Budapest, Hungary
• 26 August, Spa-Francorchamps, Belgium
• 2 September, Monza, Italy
• 16 September, Singapore, Singapore
• 30 September, Sochi, Russia
• 7 October, Suzuka, Japan
• 21 October, Austin, USA
• 28 October, Mexico City, Mexico
• 11 November, Sao Paulo, Brazil
• 25 November, Yas Marina, Abu Dhabi

So what are the offences that he has committed in all of those countries that will enable "them to catch him"?  Is he wanted in those countries?

[Baerboxer]

21 minutes ago, connda said:

It just goes to show that corruption is endemic globally and not just locally here in the LOS.  The uber-wealthy have immense leverage over the justice systems.

 

It certainly seems that the small % of humans that control most of the wealth and their friends, the political elite, are making themselves more and more untouchable for anything they or their often disgusting offspring do. 

 

A UK MP is currently avoiding allegations of unusual wealth by claiming he's to ill to face questions. But has been in India pictured with Bollywood stars, to KSA and to some local do's. He was involved in a cocaine and rent boy scandal last year which the police suddenly decided not to pursue. Apparently it's not who you know but what you know about who you know!

 

Laws are only for the great masses whom those at the top wish to control. They themselves are sometimes inconvenienced by them. But not very often!

[Just Weird]

57 minutes ago, thaichiro said:

Actually yes because living here in Thailand we all have the hope that for once justice will be meted out fairly, reguardless of position or power. This defines a proper culture and civilization and we all hope that Thailand will someday achieve that level of judicial fairness.

So, no, then, it does not affect you personally at all, you're just jumping on the bandwagon.

[Stocky]

4 minutes ago, Just Weird said:

So what are the offences that he has committed in all of those countries that will enable "them to catch him"?  Is he wanted in those countries?

It's the offence committed in Thailand that the Red Notice references, or did reference. The whole point of the Interpol Red Notice is to inform other countries that a person is wanted and to request they locate and provisionally arrest an individual pending extradition.

[rkidlad]

4 minutes ago, Just Weird said:

So, no, then, it does not affect you personally at all, you're just jumping on the bandwagon.

Yes, that bandwagon of people who want justice. Aren’t they just the worst? Leave these cop killers alone! 

[Just Weird]

1 minute ago, Stocky said:

It's the offence committed in Thailand that the Red Notice references, or did reference. The whole point of the Interpol Red Notice is to inform other countries that a person is wanted and to request they locate and provisionally arrest an individual pending extradition.

Exactly, if they want to, they are under no obligation to do so because he has committed no offence in that country!   And to arrest him for extradition requires that the country that he would be extradited from is informed of his exact permanent location in that country, i.e. his address in that country, seeing him at an F1 event isn't enough.

[rkidlad]

8 minutes ago, Just Weird said:

Exactly, if they want to, they are under no obligation to do so because he has committed no offence in that country!   And to arrest him for extradition requires that the country that he would be extradited from is informed of his exact permanent location in that country, i.e. his address in that country, seeing him at an F1 event isn't enough.

What if they saw him at a football match? Would that be enough? Water polo? 

[thaichiro]

14 minutes ago, Just Weird said:

So, no, then, it does not affect you personally at all, you're just jumping on the bandwagon.

No, how we feel about ourselves is very much affected by our environment. Living in a society that doesn’t respect the rule of law does affect our feelings of security and our hope for a fair and just society does give us a more positive outlook on life. No bandwagon jumping here(?). I think we would all feel better about the system and the hope for more justice if they found and properly disposed of this miscreant.

[Just Weird]

4 minutes ago, rkidlad said:

Yes, that bandwagon of people who want justice. Aren’t they just the worst? Leave these cop killers alone! 

Yes, they are and, yes, you got it wrong again. 

 

He's is not a "cop killer".  An officer died in an accident that he was involved in and if you want to label him a cop killer then you must also label every single person considered to blame in a fatal traffic accident as killers also, and make as much noise about it.  No chance of you doing that.

 

The bandwagon is the bandwagon of Thaivisa posters indignantly demanding all sorts of strange arrest methods that carry no weight in real law like "get him at an F1 race", "put a bounty on his head", "offer a reward for him dead or alive", etc and also furiously asserting that he should have been jailed years ago for a crime that he has not even appeared in court for, never mind been found guilty of!  You call that justice?  B ollocks.

[rkidlad]

2 minutes ago, Just Weird said:

Yes, they are and, yes, you got it wrong again. 

 

He's is not a "cop killer".  An officer died in an accident that he was involved in and if you want to label him a cop killer then you must also label every single person considered to blame in a fatal traffic accident as killers also, and make as much noise about it.  No chance of you doing that.

 

The bandwagon is the bandwagon of Thaivisa posters indignantly demanding all sorts of strange arrest methods that carry no weight in real law like "get him at an F1 race", "put a bounty on his head", "offer a reward for him dead or alive", etc and also furiously asserting that he should have been jailed years ago for a crime that he has not even appeared in court for, never mind been found guilty of!  You call that justice?  B ollocks.

Oh, he’s a cop killer. That’s why he’s not in court defending himself. That’s why he’s hiding. 

 

Innocent people don’t run and hide. 

 

 

 

 

[Just Weird]

3 minutes ago, thaichiro said:

No, how we feel about ourselves is very much affected by our environment. Living in a society that doesn’t respect the rule of law does affect our feelings of security and our hope for a fair and just society does give us a more positive outlook on life. No bandwagon jumping here(?). I think we would all feel better about the system and the hope for more justice if they found and properly disposed of this miscreant.

That's right but that is not the bandwagon that I and other posters were commenting about!  That bandwagon was the indignant "hang him high" and "dispose of this miscreant" bandwagon that love to air their bizarre legal expertise and virtually demand nothing more than vigilante justice.

[jonstarjon]

6 hours ago, Jack Mountain said:

Just put a bounty on his head, dead or alive whatever ... and you'll see how quick this will be solved.

By some Thai guy that hasn't had its nose in the trough for a while. Loyalty is always at a price in Thailand.

[worgeordie]

46 minutes ago, Just Weird said:

Yes, they are and, yes, you got it wrong again. 

 

He's is not a "cop killer".  An officer died in an accident that he was involved in and if you want to label him a cop killer then you must also label every single person considered to blame in a fatal traffic accident as killers also, and make as much noise about it.  No chance of you doing that.

 

The bandwagon is the bandwagon of Thaivisa posters indignantly demanding all sorts of strange arrest methods that carry no weight in real law like "get him at an F1 race", "put a bounty on his head", "offer a reward for him dead or alive", etc and also furiously asserting that he should have been jailed years ago for a crime that he has not even appeared in court for, never mind been found guilty of!  You call that justice?  B ollocks.

Not a cop killer ?, He ran over a policeman on his motorbike,

then trying to leave the scene,he dragged the officer under 

his Ferrari,a good few meters up the road,and he died,I suppose

in your strange version of the World,the policeman committed

suicide and Boss was only doing him a good turn by running 

over him.

But you only come here with a different view to everyone else

to try and cause bother,you do it often.

regards worgeordie

[soalbundy]

7 hours ago, Jack Mountain said:

Just put a bounty on his head, dead or alive whatever ... and you'll see how quick this will be solved.

preferably dead

[natway09]

If the moment he was allowed bail & flew the country it had of been handed over to Interpol he

would have been sitting in a Thai jail by now.

It is painfully obvious that the monies changing hands are enough to ensure his freedam

[Khun Paul]

Of course normal Thai reaction....Blame anyone but themselves, do they really think the rest of the worlds population  in the world are as stupid as they are. 

Interpol will only remove upon request, same situation for anyone else in the world. Shows Thai Police stupidity in a whole NEW LIGHT.

[stephen tracy]

Just now, merlin2002 said:

As usual the Thais deflect blame onto a 3rd party. They are never at fault... 

I don't actually buy into that much trumpeted belief by foreigners about Thais. It's a huge generalization. It seems to be something that Thais in positions of authority who find themselves in the spotlight do, but it's certainly not a trait shared by my Thai friends and acquaintances. But they are not in positions of authority.

[stephen tracy]

Just now, JOC said:

Why?

Is your personal life affected in an way by him being on the run.....?....

Why not?

[stephen tracy]

Just now, Just Weird said:

You watch too much TV!  This is the real world!

 

"...dead or alive..."

Geez...he's wanted for traffic offences! 

He's wanted on charges of reckless driving causing death and failing to stop and help a crash victim. So he's wanted for killing someone while driving, not your average traffic offense. Why would you serve as an apologist for the spoiled little brat who has not shown even an ounce of remorse?

 

[stephen tracy]

Just now, Just Weird said:

Yes, they are and, yes, you got it wrong again. 

 

He's is not a "cop killer".  An officer died in an accident that he was involved in and if you want to label him a cop killer then you must also label every single person considered to blame in a fatal traffic accident as killers also, and make as much noise about it.  No chance of you doing that.

 

The bandwagon is the bandwagon of Thaivisa posters indignantly demanding all sorts of strange arrest methods that carry no weight in real law like "get him at an F1 race", "put a bounty on his head", "offer a reward for him dead or alive", etc and also furiously asserting that he should have been jailed years ago for a crime that he has not even appeared in court for, never mind been found guilty of!  You call that justice?  B ollocks.

And you are an apologist for someone who killed another person and fled. I would go as far as to say, that in doing so, you support the notion that laws in Thailand are only in place for those without wealth. He has never appeared in court because he is too rich and the justice system wont touch him. And if he's not guilty, why did he need to flee or try and have the family servant (aka slave) take the blame?

[Xaos]

6 years they can't get him

[Xaos]

Corrupt

[Basil B]

Looking at the red list, all the Thai's listed are wanted by Malaysia, The USA, Canada, etc. not Thailand...

 

Actually the are no persons listed as wanted by Thailand. 

[JOC]

1 minute ago, stephen tracy said:

And you are an apologist for someone who killed another person and fled. I would go as far as to say, that in doing so, you support the notion that laws in Thailand are only in place for those without wealth. He has never appeared in court because he is too rich and the justice system wont touch him. And if he's not guilty, why did he need to flee or try and have the family servant (aka slave) take the blame?

Not being an apologist but realist....

Unless you are on a 3-weeks holiday, we all know that the rich and powerful will never see the inside of a jail....

Like it or not....just a fact of life.....no matter how much you post on Thaivisa demanding justice...

According to the ways things are working here...this case is not active anymore......The perpetrator has expressed remorse...victims family accepted and received economic compensation = End of story

A very pragmatic and practical way to handle it.......