Is it an end of an era for the Western Expat?

[sanemax]

6 hours ago, Hummin said:

Define high class? If I had "high Class", Thailand would not be my choice of retirement! There is no class in Thailand in my eyes. There is people coming here as old time colonist, and think they have class, but I see no class. 

However, I live in a good condo, have money for cheese and wine, stay away from bars, go to gym, I have time to care me an my gf, and have a good healty life. Thats whats matter to me, and not people who talking about class every time there is a discussion. I see no class, so please eleborate class for me. 

I was referring to the prostitutes .

Low class people :Lying, stealing, dishonesty , deception , immoral, low standards , disorderly lives etc 

[sanemax]

23 hours ago, Hummin said:

But the ones in here screaming whore every time they talk about thai girls, most certenly is a son of thousen fathers themselves. I feel sorry for them, truly. 

Thats not quite correct :

People on TV are talking about prostitutes , BUT , they dont like to call them prostitutes , they prefer to use other names, like working girls or bargirls .

   The posters who have stated that they have come to Thailand for the girls , have come to Thailand for prostitution .

    No one is "screaming whore"  every time Thai girls are mentioned , they are just calling prostitutes by their correct name , which is a prostitute 

[Hummin]

5 minutes ago, sanemax said:

I was referring to the prostitutes .

Low class people :Lying, stealing, dishonesty , deception , immoral, low standards , disorderly lives etc 

A sex worker can not be good caring and honest? Just a rhetorical question. 

 

I understand there is many who come to Thailand and is overwhelmed by all the attention, and willing wonderful girls playing a game, for then experience the back side of all of it. Ending up broke and miserable. These girls is good at what they do, and they have been doing it for a long time. But, what happens to all these girls who is just in for weeks, a month or two, who is there to find one man in their life? Still rhetorical question. 

[Hummin]

33 minutes ago, sanemax said:

Thats not quite correct :

People on TV are talking about prostitutes , BUT , they dont like to call them prostitutes , they prefer to use other names, like working girls or bargirls .

   The posters who have stated that they have come to Thailand for the girls , have come to Thailand for prostitution .

    No one is "screaming whore"  every time Thai girls are mentioned , they are just calling prostitutes by their correct name , which is a prostitute 

I have seen some few who is refering them to whores and low life and so on. But fair enough prostetutes and sex worker is names that is acceptable on girls who sell their body for money, food, protection, and shelter. 

Edited May 15, 2018 by Hummin

[Justfine]

1 hour ago, MaeJoMTB said:

We can talk about mountain biking if you prefer, just came back from a 25Km ride through the Jungle, tried a new track today, bit too steep and narrow had to push the bike for about 1Km and it was hot as hell. Nice views of the lake though. Stopped and took two photos. What have YOU done that's worth sharing today?

This is Doi Tairn reservoir behind MaeJo, completely full and the rainy season hasn't even officially started yet. 

 

Looks good. I did farmers carry with buckets filled with gravel and water. Not as much fun as you.

[Justfine]

58 minutes ago, sanemax said:

Nothing so far , just woke up and finishing off last nights open Chang .

Just contemplating whether to go and buy some more or not

Buy something better.

[Mattd]

20 hours ago, MaeJoMTB said:

One thing I have noticed, respectable Thai women can usually spot a hooker a mile off, and generally avoid socializing with them.

They are making an assumption, not spotting them necessarily, unless the girl is making it obvious.

Most Thai's do make the assumption that any girl that is walking with a Farang is, or was, a prostitute, I work with very normal Thai girls who actively avoid being seen with their Farang colleagues in public, especially outside of the office areas.

Equally, I know lots and lots of guys married to normal Thai girls, who have told me that they get looked upon as if they are a prostitute.

I walk down the road with my 19 year old son and folks look at me as if I am some sort of gay monster.

Perceptions are very deceiving.

 

Anyway, still trying to work out what any of the discussions in the last few pages of this thread has anything to do with the OP?

[sanemax]

4 minutes ago, Justfine said:

Buy something better.

I would do, but the nearest shop that sells Cheers Red is quite far away

[Justfine]

7 minutes ago, Mattd said:

They are making an assumption, not spotting them necessarily, unless the girl is making it obvious.

Most Thai's do make the assumption that any girl that is walking with a Farang is, or was, a prostitute, I work with very normal Thai girls who actively avoid being seen with their Farang colleagues in public, especially outside of the office areas.

Equally, I know lots and lots of guys married to normal Thai girls, who have told me that they get looked upon as if they are a prostitute.

I walk down the road with my 19 year old son and folks look at me as if I am some sort of gay monster.

Perceptions are very deceiving.

 

Anyway, still trying to work out what any of the discussions in the last few pages of this thread has anything to do with the OP?

Don't wear pink shirts and white fluffy pants.

[Lacessit]

1 hour ago, sanemax said:

Nothing so far , just woke up and finishing off last nights open Chang .

Just contemplating whether to go and buy some more or not

You drink beer you opened last night? You are British, right?

[sanemax]

4 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

You drink beer you opened last night? You are British, right?

I did yes, and I am British .

I just left my beer on the table last night, went to sleep , woke up and finished the beer off

[StreetCowboy]

6 hours ago, Justfine said:

Looks good. I did farmers carry with buckets filled with gravel and water. Not as much fun as you.

We took the high road to the Highland Games at the weekend.

 

It’s not the end of an era for my mates, there still seems to be plenty of work around.

[StreetCowboy]

6 hours ago, Lacessit said:

You drink beer you opened last night? You are British, right?

Seems a shame to waste it. And the EPA would be after you if you tipped it down the sink.

[StreetCowboy]

6 hours ago, Justfine said:

Buy something better.

If he can drink stale Chang in the morning, something better would be a waste; but seriously, is flat Stella that much nicer in the morning?

 

Flat Stella’s probably a bloke, by the way...

Edited May 15, 2018 by StreetCowboy

[Lacessit]

1 minute ago, StreetCowboy said:

Seems a shame to waste it. And the EPA would be after you if you tipped it down the sink.

Beer can be used in several recipes for the alcohol content. The EPA would be delighted, it boosts bacterial activity in sewage plants. An extra nutrient.

[StreetCowboy]

3 minutes ago, StreetCowboy said:

If he can drink stale Chang in the morning, something better would be a waste; but seriously, is flat Stella that much nicer in the morning?

 

Flat Stella’s probably a bloke, by the way...

You start off all posh, drinking Stella Artois, maybe even in italics; then it’s pints o’ Stella, and you wake up with Flat Stellain the morning.

”I’ll just softly softly quiet as a mouse sneak home and no-one need ever know” and you quietly latch the door behind you.

”Did I drive here? I could’ve sworn I got a taxi into town” you think as you see your car

”Good morning!” And your mind spins like a fruit machine trying to explain to your neighbours why you’ve locked yourself naked out the house on a Wednesday morning

[MaeJoMTB]

1 hour ago, StreetCowboy said:

You start off all posh, drinking Stella Artois, maybe even in italics; then it’s pints o’ Stella, and you wake up with Flat Stellain the morning.

You're lucky to have flat Stella, I always ended up with this, but then I'm not an expat, I'm a 'Romance Traveller'.

 

Edited May 15, 2018 by MaeJoMTB

[StreetCowboy]

6 minutes ago, MaeJoMTB said:

You're lucky to have flat Stella, I always ended up with this, but then I'm not an expat, I'm a 'Romance Traveller'.

 

Do they bleach out the blue colouring?

[tingtongtourist]

11 hours ago, JAZZDOG said:

"As it should be " ?  Parents enlisting daughters to serve as prostitutes so they can reap a few thousand baht each month. Maybe you've been here a bit too long because that is totally twisted and wrong in so many ways. I guess human trafficking is cool as long as the check arrives on time?

well is nice to be able to think like that,

but lets talk about Thai peoples REAL world.

 

Many people dont have the luxury of welfare payments or safety net and help from the government,  which in part gets given from taxing rich people heavier.

 

cut the welfare help in your own country and see how much human trafficking will follow

[JAZZDOG]

32 minutes ago, tingtongtourist said:

well is nice to be able to think like that,

but lets talk about Thai peoples REAL world.

 

Many people dont have the luxury of welfare payments or safety net and help from the government,  which in part gets given from taxing rich people heavier.

 

cut the welfare help in your own country and see how much human trafficking will follow

Law and Order

[StreetCowboy]

14 minutes ago, JAZZDOG said:

Law and Order

Bread and circuses

 

[Justfine]

8 hours ago, MaeJoMTB said:

You're lucky to have flat Stella, I always ended up with this, but then I'm not an expat, I'm a 'Romance Traveller'.

 

Do you take Red Cock in the morning or evening?

[thaibeachlovers]

On ‎5‎/‎14‎/‎2018 at 1:01 PM, Hummin said:

Being worse than what? Before 1. WW, Before 2. WW, during the 50,60,70íes in some asian countries? Since Franco Spain have become a paradise for some! 

 

Most of us in here in TV, have the best time ever on this planet, and you refer it to becoming worse? I think is is a fear question, worse than what? 

 

Yes Trump, and all that, and all the muslims and all that, and all the killing and that, but still is the big Q, worse than what? 

The world is definitely getting worse in my lifetime. Mind you, when I was born, probably less than half the present population of the world, and other than the Korean war, my childhood was pretty easy, without any great international problems. Then the Vietnam war started and it's been a downward slope internationally since.

Back then, a family could live on one income, and crime was not a problem, in my country. Good standard of living and most could afford their own house.

No digital world, no computers, no internet, no kids wandering around fixated to a machine.

Much better world indeed. Obesity was almost unknown.

[swissie]

6 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

The world is definitely getting worse in my lifetime. Mind you, when I was born, probably less than half the present population of the world, and other than the Korean war, my childhood was pretty easy, without any great international problems. Then the Vietnam war started and it's been a downward slope internationally since.

Back then, a family could live on one income, and crime was not a problem, in my country. Good standard of living and most could afford their own house.

No digital world, no computers, no internet, no kids wandering around fixated to a machine.

Much better world indeed. Obesity was almost unknown.

This post is discusting, because it is so discustingly accurate.

Cheers.

[reenatinnakor]

What is a western expat? Don't you mean western immigrants? Ie people coming to Thailand to live or retire, surely are immigrants?

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[Hummin]

4 hours ago, reenatinnakor said:

What is a western expat? Don't you mean western immigrants? Ie people coming to Thailand to live or retire, surely are immigrants?

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this will help you 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expatriate

Edited May 16, 2018 by Hummin

[MaeJoMTB]

5 hours ago, reenatinnakor said:

What is a western expat? Don't you mean western immigrants? Ie people coming to Thailand to live or retire, surely are immigrants?

Immigrants have expectancy of citizenship, ergo none of us are immigrants.

[chrisandsu]

On 5/13/2018 at 11:34 PM, JAZZDOG said:

Probably just me but I have allot of respect for the 98% of females in Thailand who opt for a different solution to their economic situation. And as for having a BF and ONLY having customers once or twice a week, I can only imagine conversations over coffee " How was work last night honey ? ". I am not out to denigrate anyone but questioning their decision to go into an unhealthy profession offering little rewards isn't out of line. I sincerely feel pity for the girls that get involved with few exit strategies that don't include rewriting and hiding from their past. No way do the rewards equal the downside.

I have been working now for the last 20 years (I’m 37) my wife and I are 12 years into our 30 year mortgage of our home I have 18 years to go .... a hooker can meet a white knight, be bought a house and a car and retire from any type of meaningful work all in 6 months if she plays her cards right  !! I’d say the reward can be very high! as I’m sure the thought of her joining me on the 60 hour work week hamster wheel would fill her with nightmares . 

[chrisandsu]

On 5/14/2018 at 10:54 PM, sanemax said:

I was referring to the prostitutes .

Low class people :Lying, stealing, dishonesty , deception , immoral, low standards , disorderly lives etc 

Did you get herpes from one ?

[sanemax]

Just now, chrisandsu said:

Did you get herpes from one ?

Nope , moved away from them and that life , got fully tested and had no diseases or infections