rooster59 Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 One million baht dowry as Irish man marries Thai boyfriend in Nakhon Sawan Image: Sanook An Irish business man married his long term partner in a lavish ceremony in Nakhon Sawan province on Saturday. Thai media reported on the marriage of Alister Bredee, 66, and Phumaret Sangtong, 31, which was described as a joyous event attended by friends and family from Thailand and Ireland. Mr Bredee who operates a health and fitness business on Koh Samui said he first came to Thailand 15 years ago and met Phumarej after interviewing him for a job. The couple, who have been together for 13 years, finally tied the knot on Saturday and plan to continue living on Koh Samui but said they may move to Nakhon Sawan when Mr Bredee retires. Sanook reported that Mr Bredee handed a dowry of more than one million baht to the family of Mr Phumaret. The dowry was made of 400,000 baht in cash, 10 baht weight in gold and a car. Sanook actually reported that Mr Bredee is Icelandic but in an interview with the Samui Times, Mr Bredee said he was born in Sri Lanka, educated in the UK but called Ireland home. Source: Sanook -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2018-05-13 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post petermik Posted May 13, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 13, 2018 Wish him/them luck?......................no I,m just shaking my head in bewilderment 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezzra Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 Meh... after the 10 millions baht gay wedding of 2 weeks ago, this pales in comparison... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sanemax Posted May 13, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 13, 2018 They met when the boy was 16 , but only began a relationship when he turned 18, and the Man was 53 . HHmmmmmmm 8 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Just1Voice Posted May 13, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 13, 2018 Well, there won't be any kids coming out of this marriage. lol 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destiny1990 Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 Show only and gets back? 5555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post spidermike007 Posted May 13, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 13, 2018 Anyone who pays a dowry of a million baht, or more, is a super freak, and is messing things up for most ex-pats. Word gets around, and women (and men?) who would normally expect 100,000 baht, get strange ideas in their heads, about their value on the market. Not a healthy thing to do. This man is responsible for setting a bad precedent. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chippendale Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 The gay dude who recently paid 10 million baht to marry his boy lover must feel like an idiot. At least he won't have to worry about ever getting pregnant. That saves hassle and money. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krataiboy Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 Love conquers all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lemonjelly Posted May 13, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 13, 2018 They’re both happy, maybe for different reasons, but hey it’s not my business, so good luck to them. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Juan B Tong Posted May 13, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 13, 2018 Now that the use of LBGQT is accepted for use, I want to wish these queers good luck! 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jingthing Posted May 13, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 13, 2018 9 minutes ago, Juan B Tong said: Now that the use of LBGQT is accepted for use, I want to wish these queers good luck! It's usually written LGBT or LGBTQ. It is indeed OK to say queers unless you're using it as a slur. Are you? Similar to the use of the N word. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sanemax Posted May 13, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 13, 2018 19 minutes ago, Juan B Tong said: Now that the use of LBGQT is accepted for use, I want to wish these queers good luck! Unless you are a queer yourself, YOU cannot use that word "Queer" is exclusive to queers 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Baerboxer Posted May 13, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 13, 2018 10 minutes ago, Jingthing said: It's usually written LGBT or LGBTQ. It is indeed OK to say queers unless you're using it as a slur. Are you? Similar to the use of the N word. That's a very old expression used to describe homosexuals - mainly male ones. Queer suggests unusual or not normal. I thought the world was more educated now. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Baerboxer Posted May 13, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 13, 2018 Congratulations to the couple. Hope they remain happy. Sad to see this story draws out the homophobic brigade. Thought the world was more educated now. And congratulations to the poster who demonstrates his homophobic and racist tendencies in one short (probably as long as he can write) post. His forum name is very suitable - contains the word "hand" and is probably very descriptive of his favorite past time ! 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 5 minutes ago, Baerboxer said: That's a very old expression used to describe homosexuals - mainly male ones. Queer suggests unusual or not normal. I thought the world was more educated now. Younger gay people have promoted the inclusion of the word queer. There are Queer Studies programs in some universities. No point in obsessing about it. Use of words changes all the time. Not sure how relevant it is to Thai LGBT people though, if at all. It can of course be used respectfully and also used as a slur. That's usually apparent in the context or tone of voice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jingthing said: Younger gay people have promoted the inclusion of the word queer. There are Queer Studies programs in some universities. No point in obsessing about it. Use of words changes all the time. Not sure how relevant it is to Thai LGBT people though, if at all. It can of course be used respectfully and also used as a slur. That's usually apparent in the context or tone of voice. Interesting. In the UK the word "queer" would be associated with my parents generation, the WW11 generation. They used the word descriptively and in a negative way but not as slur as such. Remember that for most of their lives homosexuality was illegal and frowned upon, seen as a character weakness or some sort of poor life style choice. I think if someone used that word in the UK, they'd be in trouble, regardless of their tone of voice. Given that this is a story about two people, happy in their long term relationship and hurting no one, I find some of the posts on here sad. One I find extremely obnoxious and demonstrative of very low intelligence. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 (edited) It was about turning around a slur word and OWNING it as an act of defiance. Like many, I'm not thrilled by it, because as we can see all the time, it's still used as a slur. So now at many universities you can major in Queer Studies. I'm sure that thrills many parents! http://www.brandeis.edu/sexuality-queer/index.html Edited May 13, 2018 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimmer Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 Some inflammatory posts have been removed, also replies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 did they toss a coin to decide who was paying 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nip Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 I'm not at all homophobic indeed my daughter is in a long term relationship with another woman and I have many gay friends but I do wonder at times where is all this going? My mother in law who died 20 years ago when there was only a handful of 'queers' in my country described homosexuality as a jaded pallet. My mother had a church mass offered up when a long lost uncle turned up at our house for Christmas dinner with his boyfriend? When I returned home after living abroad for 17 years I was nervous about coming out. How will my friends react when I tell them I'm straight? Now I fear what was once considered a taboo then a novelty has somewhat become the norm and life is hard enough for a society and legal system that tries to regulate a male - female society without it being further watered down? What next straight pride marches? Rome collapsed under such weight. I'm not inviting ridicule. It's just that gay men seem to be more educated, handsome, witty and attractive than us minority straight men. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 You're tripping, dude. Every day is a straight parade and that will never change. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post shamrock09 Posted May 13, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 13, 2018 I am the man in this story. It is dangerously inaccurate. Tha is not 31, he is a lot older and I am not 66. The dowry quoted is far more than I paid The actual amount was 100,000. Somewhere it quotes THB 1,000,000 this is completely overblown. We met in 2005 when Tha was 28 and we have been together ever since. This article suggests an underage relationship.That has never been the case. 8 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMuhammad Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jingthing said: It's usually written LGBT or LGBTQ. It is indeed OK to say queers unless you're using it as a slur. Are you? Similar to the use of the N word. If you’re Australian it’s now LGBTQIA. I genuinely have trouble keeping up Edited May 13, 2018 by MadMuhammad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunPer Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 4 hours ago, spidermike007 said: Anyone who pays a dowry of a million baht, or more, is a super freak, and is messing things up for most ex-pats. Word gets around, and women (and men?) who would normally expect 100,000 baht, get strange ideas in their heads, about their value on the market. Not a healthy thing to do. This man is responsible for setting a bad precedent. Kindly disagree, it's about following the local culture. I've been to Thai-Thai village marriages up Isaan with more than 100,000 baht in Sin sot (dowry), and a "farang" is certainly expected to pay (much) more. Are you aware of how much Tata Young got offered from her Thai partner..? Sin sot reflects status, and Mr. Bredee, a well known and very respected health practitioner on Koh Samui, has a certain level of status. I've been invited to a number of Thai-Thai marriages where the sin sot (dowry) was in range of 1 million baht and more in cash, plus gold and extras... My image from a local Thai-Thai wedding party on Koh Samui (I've intentionally blurred the couple) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post shamrock09 Posted May 13, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 13, 2018 I thought I had already posted but maybe the censors are sitting on the reply. My name is Alister Bredee. I am featured in this wildly inaccurate article. No dowry of THB 1,000,000 was ever paid. That's ridiculous and it seems to vary in each publication I read. Secondly, we met in 2005 when Tha was 28. This article suggests an underage relationship which was never the case. Tha never worked for me and my age is inaccurate, too. It would be nice if reporters got stories right. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerritkaew Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 7 hours ago, sanemax said: They met when the boy was 16 , but only began a relationship when he turned 18, and the Man was 53 . HHmmmmmmm no, the met when the boy was 18, he came to thailand 2 years before. But you right, 18 and 53 is some age difrends!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atyclb Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 2 hours ago, Juan B Tong said: Now that the use of LBGQT is accepted for use, I want to wish these queers good luck! the only thing "queer" is 1 million baht. well i suppose the thai guy is another oxford grad rhodes scholar with an undergrad degree from princeton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post soalbundy Posted May 13, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 13, 2018 5 hours ago, sanemax said: Unless you are a queer yourself, YOU cannot use that word "Queer" is exclusive to queers Language is free expression, he can say queer if he so chooses, what are you going to do, scratch his eyes out? Jehova, Jehova, Jehova. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat ji Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 6 hours ago, Juan B Tong said: Now that the use of LBGQT is accepted for use, I want to wish these queers good luck! yes, amazing. first they taught us to say "gay", now they say queer, like in the first place. ...Stick around and they'll make it "homo". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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