watgate Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 (edited) Since I need to be on a low salt diet I was wondering if anyone knows of any vegan or vegetarian restaurants or food outlets that use very little salt and no MSG. I realize most establlshments like to use a lot of salt and MSG to make their food taste better and more inviting but if anyone knows for certain of any establishments that don't use a lot of salt and no MSG in their cooking I would be most appreciative. Edited May 24, 2018 by watgate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricTh Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 (edited) I'm allergic to MSG so I've been hunting around. Most vegetarian shops in Thailand use MSG so very few don't use. The ones that don't put MSG but still taste delicious is Pun Pun restaurant in Wat Suan Dok . It has great reviews in the past. Edited May 24, 2018 by EricTh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcliffe Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Free Bird cafe is really good, try there. I know they use natural resourses and ingredients. They also support charities so your money is going to a great cause. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Most of the cheap ahann J places claim they don't use MSG, but pretty much everyone uses salt. Best bet is to go to a place that prepares food on the spot and ask them not to use either one. https://www.happycow.net/asia/thailand/chiang_mai/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelerEastWest Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 3 hours ago, Ulysses G. said: Most of the cheap ahann J places claim they don't use MSG, but pretty much everyone uses salt. Best bet is to go to a place that prepares food on the spot and ask them not to use either one. https://www.happycow.net/asia/thailand/chiang_mai/ I agree with you 100% - you need to politely tell them what you want. I am looking for the same as the poster but also low fat & no refined oils with mainly organic ingrediants - I have found not a single place in Chiang Mai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitestarschool Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 Vegan Heaven, with three CM locations, has always honored my requests to add or omit ingredients—very nice people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulbuick1 Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 Be Organic opposite airport central plaza or salad concept nimanham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricTh Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, Ulysses G. said: Most of the cheap ahann J places claim they don't use MSG, but pretty much everyone uses salt. Best bet is to go to a place that prepares food on the spot and ask them not to use either one. https://www.happycow.net/asia/thailand/chiang_mai/ They do use lots of MSG. I've asked all of these cheap vege shop where they cook in bulk. They are reluctant to say or say 'very little' because they think they will lose customers. All these shops are mostly Thai Chinese shops and they don't use garlic or onion by Buddhist practise, so they must use MSG to enhance the flavour, if not, not many customers would come. Those that specially cook individual dishes for you will put MSG by default unless you request them not to put. Edited May 25, 2018 by EricTh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimbuman Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 Pretty much all of the soy and oyster sauce that is being used contains MSG, so even if they say it's not in the food, it will be in the food anyway. Hardly anyThai/Asian food without soy or oyster sauce, although there could be a difference between naturally occurring MSG and the processed MSG crystalline stuff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricTh Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Rimbuman said: Pretty much all of the soy and oyster sauce that is being used contains MSG, so even if they say it's not in the food, it will be in the food anyway. Hardly anyThai/Asian food without soy or oyster sauce, although there could be a difference between naturally occurring MSG and the processed MSG crystalline stuff. Thai and Chinese don't use naturally occurring MSG, they use this which is a slow-acting poison to our brain and invented by the Japanese. Edited May 25, 2018 by EricTh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawadee1947 Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 Hard to find because even they promise you not to use MSG they will add some Knorr, what is basically the same. Therefore my wife is cooking delicious dinner at home using all the different spices Thailand can offer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rumak Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 3 hours ago, TravelerEastWest said: I agree with you 100% - you need to politely tell them what you want. I am looking for the same as the poster but also low fat & no refined oils with mainly organic ingrediants - I have found not a single place in Chiang Mai. you can bring a small bottle of olive oil with you and ask them to cook your fried rice or whatever using that. you can also ask to use nam man nit noi ..... best way to start to learn thai is at a restaurant. practice, practice and patience, patience and yes, be polite and when you go back they will remember (that you are nice man) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 59 minutes ago, Rimbuman said: Pretty much all of the soy and oyster sauce that is being used contains MSG, so even if they say it's not in the food, it will be in the food anyway. Hardly anyThai/Asian food without soy or oyster sauce, although there could be a difference between naturally occurring MSG and the processed MSG crystalline stuff. Most soy sauce also contains wheat, which of course is not good for people who require a gluten-free diet. Fortunately, there is one company in Thailand that makes gluten-free soy sauce that contains no MSG as well: Megachef Their fish sauce also contains no MSG. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 Pun Pun @ Suan Dok. 18.787517, 98.967504 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kohsamida Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 (edited) 18 hours ago, EricTh said: I'm allergic to MSG so I've been hunting around. Most vegetarian shops in Thailand use MSG so very few don't use. With over 200 Vegan restaurants to choose from, you’re certainly in the right town ? My top pick would be IMM AIM (See map). A couple others I like are A TASTE FROM HEAVEN, and VEGAN HEAVEN, but IMM AIM is st the very top of my list. It’s just a few minute walk north of Kae Suan Kaew. Very cool 2nd floor outdoor dining...I really love this place; real popular with Vegan cyclists. ? Edited May 25, 2018 by Kohsamida Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgenon Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 Salt is important in hot weather when you sweat and lose salt. So please be careful not to get dehydrated. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricTh Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Kohsamida said: With over 200 Vegan restaurants to choose from, you’re certainly in the right town ? My top pick would be IMM AIM (See map). A couple others I like are A TASTE FROM HEAVEN, and VEGAN HEAVEN, but IMM AIM is st the very top of my list. It’s just a few minute walk north of Kae Suan Kaew. Very cool 2nd floor outdoor dining...I really love this place; real popular with Vegan cyclists. ? I am sorry but it seems that you haven't tried the others yet. I've tried Imm Aim and the food is not delicious at all, it's quite bland. Furthermore, prices are more expensive. Do try Pun Pun and you'll see the difference. Edited May 25, 2018 by EricTh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kohsamida Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 1 minute ago, EricTh said: I am sorry but you haven't tried the others yet. I've tried Imm Aim and the food is not delicious at all, it's quite bland. Furthermore, prices are more expensive. Do try Pun Pun and you'll see the difference. I really like Imm Aim, but I'll give Pun Pun a try for sure; thanks ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricTh Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 2 hours ago, bubba said: Most soy sauce also contains wheat, which of course is not good for people who require a gluten-free diet. Fortunately, there is one company in Thailand that makes gluten-free soy sauce that contains no MSG as well: Megachef Their fish sauce also contains no MSG. I've been looking for those soya sauce without MSG for quite some time. Most do have MSG. Where can I buy this Megachef? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kohsamida Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 (edited) 26 minutes ago, EricTh said: I've been looking for those soya sauce without MSG for quite some time. Most do have MSG. Where can I buy this Megachef? Big C. And before anybody accuses me, no this is NOT an advert LOL ? Edited May 25, 2018 by Kohsamida Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man from Tellus Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 Pink House Garden is one of the best in Chain Mai. Nice garden and good food It's totally gluten free, they don't use MSG, they have great cakes for dessert.I know the owner and his wife. The hasbend have celiac so he knows how to make gluten free food. https://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_Review-g293917-d9874138-Reviews-Pink_House_Garden-Chiang_Mai.html?m=19905 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieAus Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 Hi I don’t want salt, MSG or sugar added to my food so my Thai wife typed up a small notice in Thai stating that it will make me ill. I have had it laminated and produce it at restaurants it seems to have achieved the required result. On a lighter note she originally stated unbeknownst to me “ that it would kill me” resulting in the manager of one restaurant rushing to the table and recovering a meal that had been served !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelerEastWest Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 6 hours ago, rumak said: you can bring a small bottle of olive oil with you and ask them to cook your fried rice or whatever using that. you can also ask to use nam man nit noi ..... best way to start to learn thai is at a restaurant. practice, practice and patience, patience and yes, be polite and when you go back they will remember (that you are nice man) Thank you for the suggestion, but olive oil is a refined oil which is not good for my health. I eat a plant based whole food diet with no oil salt or sugar - not fun at first but after a while it is fine. I can't find a single place in Chiang Mai that cooks this way - I wish someone would start a restaurant like this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kohsamida Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 (edited) 34 minutes ago, TravelerEastWest said: Thank you for the suggestion, but olive oil is a refined oil which is not good for my health. I eat a plant based whole food diet with no oil salt or sugar - not fun at first but after a while it is fine. I can't find a single place in Chiang Mai that cooks this way - I wish someone would start a restaurant like this... I agree 100% about refined oils or refined anything when it comes to food. Not good for you at all. Imm Aim cooks that way Exactly...No MSG, No oil. I'm also plant-based and take it seriously. Imm Aim is my favorite place in Chiang Mai for healthy Vegan fare. Edited May 25, 2018 by Kohsamida Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 5 hours ago, EricTh said: I've been looking for those soya sauce without MSG for quite some time. Most do have MSG. Where can I buy this Megachef? I buy it at Rimping. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelerEastWest Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 13 hours ago, DonDoRondo said: The Salad Terrace, 2 locations, and The Salad Concept provide very healthy selections. I will try them if I pass by For now I am like a kid with a lunch box I always make food at home and bring it with me when I go out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricTh Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 11 minutes ago, TravelerEastWest said: I will try them if I pass by For now I am like a kid with a lunch box I always make food at home and bring it with me when I go out. Do you cook or just make salad? Cooking every meal is quite hard work. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watgate Posted May 26, 2018 Author Share Posted May 26, 2018 I like to eat bread and most bread has a lot of salt. Any places that sell bread with little salt in it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kohsamida Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 2 hours ago, watgate said: I like to eat bread and most bread has a lot of salt. Any places that sell bread with little salt in it? Chiang Mai Bread in Wat Ket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelerEastWest Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 On 5/26/2018 at 8:08 AM, EricTh said: Do you cook or just make salad? Cooking every meal is quite hard work. I don't normally eat traditional salads as dressings tend to be high fat and or high in calories. My wife cooks sometimes and a few things I cook. We have several types of fruit growing - all the Thai basics such as mangos, bananas, longan and papayas. Also green vegetables and beans - beans are very easy to grow and good for the soil. A friend has a food business and he cooks some vegetarian curries for me. I buy them frozen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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