snoop1130 Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 Developed-in-Thailand road watch system catches lawbreakers, saves money By Mongkhonchaowarat Tangmangmee The Nation Phitsanulok File photo Developed by Thailand, a smart traffic-police system is now watching over Bangkok’s roads round the clock, detecting illegal lane changes and issuing tickets to offenders – all automatically. It streamlines the work process and prevents any disruption to traffic flow, which could otherwise occur if traffic policemen had to stop the offending vehicle on sight,” Naresuan University’s lecturer Woralak Kongdenfha said at a press conference on Friday after her team spent more than three years developing the innovative system. And there’s a bonus to the system: the cameras are so good that they can also help detect stolen vehicles and thus help catch car thieves. “We are going to develop the system further so as to boost the chance of preventing car thefts,” Woralak added. The Naresuan University’s team started developing the system in 2016. To date, two private firms have also bought the rights to use the system. One has used the system to detect Phuket motorcyclists and motorcycle passengers who fail to wear a crash helmet. The other has used the system to detect lane changes in Bangkok. “Initially, we installed cameras inside traffic-police dummies but soon found that cameras there could be stolen,” Woralak said. “So, we have chosen to install cameras in a high spot at an angle that can best capture the licence plate number on a law-offending vehicle,” she said. The technology, which has won an award from the Thailand Research Fund, has reportedly helped the country save more than Bt15 million. “Without this innovation, Thailand might still have to rely on an imported system,” Woralak said. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/national/30347296 -- © Copyright The Nation 2018-6-8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kannot Posted June 8, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 8, 2018 does almost ferk all for road safety ......................cash cash cash..............does it do "driving too close" 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post observer90210 Posted June 8, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 8, 2018 Very bad news. This means less manned checkpoints, less tea money. ? 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ukrules Posted June 8, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 8, 2018 21 minutes ago, snoop1130 said: The Naresuan University’s team started developing the system in 2016. ANPR invented in the UK (by the police no less) way back in the 1970's. I guess we then had to wait for computers and cameras to become cheap enough to roll it out everywhere. I suspect any related patents have long since expired. 11 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KiwiKiwi Posted June 8, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 8, 2018 They'll be off trying to sell it overseas now. Like magical rain-making by the North American Indians - do a little dance and ABRACADABRA. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post worgeordie Posted June 8, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 8, 2018 On the ring road up here in Chiang Mai, they have a big set up over the road,with a speed read out for each of the 4 lanes,its supposed to take photos and a fine issued if you exceed the 90 Km speed limit. Today I drove under it doing 80 Km ,but the sign said 47 Km, another system developed in Thailand ? regards Worgeordie 5 1 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Esso49 Posted June 8, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 8, 2018 19 minutes ago, worgeordie said: On the ring road up here in Chiang Mai, they have a big set up over the road,with a speed read out for each of the 4 lanes,its supposed to take photos and a fine issued if you exceed the 90 Km speed limit. Today I drove under it doing 80 Km ,but the sign said 47 Km, another system developed in Thailand ? regards Worgeordie This is a super intelligent Thai invention. It not only records speeds etc etc it actually is a car make identification system. It automatically identifies Mercedes Benz, BMW and other high end cars and then computes their speed to 50% of actual, or if it detects something indicated as more than twice the legal limit it arbitrarily chooses a low speed. It is well known that those of wealth and substance are above any Thai law and speeding is thus no exception. Therefore whereas a a real RTP officer would let them off an automatic system has been developed to do the self same job. Yes Thais are no doubt geniuses. 5 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Artisi Posted June 8, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 8, 2018 Amazing just amazing, beaten the rest of the world to it, next they will have them installed in police cars - just like many of the advanced western countries 5 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post shady86 Posted June 8, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 8, 2018 6 months from now, more than half will stop working. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dave67 Posted June 8, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 8, 2018 “Initially, we installed cameras inside traffic-police dummies ,,," I must say that did me laugh, replacing old dummies with new dummies 5 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post janclaes47 Posted June 8, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 8, 2018 1 hour ago, snoop1130 said: Well, I must say that the police mannequin doll in the picture looks as useful as the live version. 1 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post impulse Posted June 8, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 8, 2018 Sometimes, I just scratch my head and wonder... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wirat69 Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 50 minutes ago, KiwiKiwi said: They'll be off trying to sell it overseas now. Probably, yes.... with a Handbook and Service Manual written in the International Language of PC, Thai. I guess that would be additional revenue for ex-pat Thai persons to translate the Thai to English, or even maybe translate the Tinglish to Tinglish..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirasan Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 Quote To date, two private firms have also bought the rights to use the system. One has used the system to detect Phuket motorcyclists and motorcycle passengers who fail to wear a crash helmet. The other has used the system to detect lane changes in Bangkok. Wat? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiwiKiwi Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 14 minutes ago, wirat69 said: Probably, yes.... with a Handbook and Service Manual written in the International Language of PC, Thai. I guess that would be additional revenue for ex-pat Thai persons to translate the Thai to English, or even maybe translate the Tinglish to Tinglish..... Tinglish to Tinglish, yes. A good laugh is always useful. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coulson Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 1 hour ago, snoop1130 said: “Without this innovation, Thailand might still have to rely on an imported system,” Woralak said There's nothing wrong with relying an imported system, that works. Pride here causing multiple re-invention of the wheel, at a massive cost. But hey, it's developed locally! Welcome to the 20th Century. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cadbury Posted June 8, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 8, 2018 2 hours ago, snoop1130 said: Developed-in-Thailand road watch system catches lawbreakers, saves money This is ancient news going back to March 2015. This cub reporter has stolen someone else's news story. In March 2015. http://www.nationmultimedia.com/national/Dummy-police-will-catch-traffic-offenders-red-hand-30256694.html Note the similarities. The 2015 version" "system can detect a vehicle that changes lanes and then issue a traffic ticket within a minute". The plagiarised 2018 version by this lazy journo: "..detecting illegal lane changes and issuing tickets to offenders automatically. 3 hours ago, snoop1130 said: The Naresuan University’s team started developing the system in 2016. Very strange The Naresuan University’s team started developing the system in 2016 when in fact it was reported in the media in 2015. It seems Thailand is full of liars, even in the universities. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sammieuk1 Posted June 8, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 8, 2018 Hopefully the cameras are so good they can capture the VIN numbers when there is no number plate. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AhFarangJa Posted June 9, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2018 13 hours ago, shady86 said: 6 months from now, more than half will stop working. Sir, I do feel you are being very optimistic with your assessment......... 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valentine Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 (edited) Not a single positive comment so far. Losing money through fines can help change driver habits. Police do get a cut of traffic fines collected so it will be in their interest to chase up non payers. Stopping the lane changers can help traffic flow as when they do push in from another lane to a line where many have been waiting then the whole line has to slow down or stop to let them in. If they did reinvent the wheel or the students did actually create a different version then it was a good exercise for them. What I do not understand is private firms buying & using this system. Is traffic control & enforcement being outsourced now. Edited June 9, 2018 by Valentine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 14 hours ago, shady86 said: 6 months from now, more than half will stop working. your'e optimistic.....i'd give it a week or so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 4 minutes ago, Valentine said: Not a single positive comment so far. Losing money through fines can help change driver habits. Police do get a cut of traffic fines collected so it will be in their interest to chase up non payers. Stopping the lane changers can help traffic flow as when they do push in from another lane to a line where many have been waiting then the whole line has to slow down or stop to let them in. If they did reinvent the wheel or the students did actually create a different version then it was a good exercise for them. What I do not understand is private firms buying & using this system. Is traffic control & enforcement being outsourced now. you do realise MOST people do not pay the fines?? Wifes friend in the Police said " if u get any fines just ignore it" great eh, fine all you like if no one pays its no good. Better would be removal of vehicle ie confiscation BUT speeding is not the main issue, its purely abysmal driving, no signals, wrong lane, no idea of speed of vehicle when joining a fast flowing road, U turn, driving too close, UTTER inattention at the wheel for numerous reasons but Thais seem to have a 2 second attention span, driving whilst tired................all the cameras in the world WONT fix this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destiny1990 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 Ehmmm how about speed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornishcarlos Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 14 hours ago, janclaes47 said: Well, I must say that the police mannequin doll in the picture looks as useful as the live version. At least he's smiling, not wearing sunnies and not stealing your cash !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfalfa19 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 (edited) 2 questions: 1. shouldn't the dummy have his free hand extended for a payoff? 2. as far as the cameras detecting motorbike riders in Phuket not wearing helmets, is the software programmed to automatically discard photos of Thai motorists, and concentrate on farangs only? In order to emulate real police officers, of course. Edited June 9, 2018 by alfalfa19 just cuz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfalfa19 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 10 minutes ago, Valentine said: What I do not understand is private firms buying & using this system. Is traffic control & enforcement being outsourced now. That's the way it works in the US, as far as red light cameras go. 7 years ago, which is my last knowledge of the system, it went something like this: A private company installs the red light cameras, some of which don't work properly. They also allegedly maintain the cameras. When someone gets the redlight ticket, the fine was something like this, 7 years ago: 500 dollar ticket. The private company processes the transaction and sends you an official looking ticket. about 150 dollars goes to the private company. the other 350 was divided up between city, county, and state entities. Basically a scam with the proceeds being divvied up between several entities. Where I live , in San Diego, they pulled them all out a couple years ago, because they were unreliable and basically a racket. Outlying towns , such as Escondido still use them, unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 (edited) 15 hours ago, worgeordie said: On the ring road up here in Chiang Mai, they have a big set up over the road,with a speed read out for each of the 4 lanes,its supposed to take photos and a fine issued if you exceed the 90 Km speed limit. Today I drove under it doing 80 Km ,but the sign said 47 Km, another system developed in Thailand ? regards Worgeordie The traffic sucks so bad anymore on the ring roads that it's difficult to get up to 90 kph no less actually speed. I pass a couple regularly: one just North of Thai Wasadu and one in the Mae Chok area. I don't think I've clocked over 70 kph (on my speedometer) since they was put in. And like Worgeordie mentioned, they are ridiculously inaccurate on the low side - it as if they really don't want to nail speeder, but simply want to 'dot-the-i' on their publicity reports. When their cameras can detect aggressive driving, road rage, and the no-brainer - running red lights then I'll be impressed. Bangkok only, catches illegal lane changes and helmetless motorcycles - that's not a deterrent, it's a cash cow. I'll still assert (over and over and over) that Thailand has a completely ineffective traffic enforcement methodology. Until they adopt First World traffic policing standards that offers a proactive deterrent to aggressive, negligent, and careless driving, then the carnage on Thai roads will continue unabated. They need to put traffic cops in patrol cars on the street and start pulling traffic violators over en-mass for driving infractions - that's what scares drivers and creates a deterrent to willfully breaking traffic laws. This is what deters First World drivers: In Thailand the average driver would ignore this until such time as police start to monkey hammer Thai drivers with fines and jail time for evading police stops. The public can be trained, but the government shows no sign of having the will to enforce laws. As such, Thailand will remain the Most Dangerous Roads in the World! Edited June 9, 2018 by connda 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alant Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 12 hours ago, sammieuk1 said: Hopefully the cameras are so good they can capture the VIN numbers when there is no number plate. Spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayduke Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 (edited) Outstanding, they've come up with a way to put a few of the fake cops to work. Now....what about finding something useful for the other 200,000 or so fake cops to do. Edited June 9, 2018 by Hayduke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 1 minute ago, Hayduke said: Outstanding, they've come up with a way to put a few of the fake cops to work. Now....what about finding something useful for the other 200,00 fake cops to do. My wife says there is not money for police traffic cop in police cruisers. I agree. Submarines, secret satellite networks, funding for the Buddhist religion, expensive housing for the judiciary, and police escort vehicles for VIPs are much, much, much more important that slowing the slaughter on Thai roads. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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