White House press secretary says asked to leave restaurant for working for Trump

[attrayant]

40 minutes ago, canuckamuck said:

Intolerance is not an idea

 

So by your own admission, the post you were referring to contains no ideas.  Yet when I asked "what idea?",  you directed me back to that very post.  The post that contains no ideas.

 

And instead of the back-and-forth we're doing now, why don't you simply answer the question and put an end to it?

[DoctorG]

5 minutes ago, Andaman Al said:

Old news, if you don't know you have been living in a cave. Is Osama still there? I only ask as he was another one that tried to bring down American democracy. I thought maybe it's a team effort kind of thing.

As I thought. You have nothing but wind.

If you are thinking of the baker then you surely know that he did not refuse to serve them, he declined to make a special cake for them on religious grounds. I guess they wanted 2 grooms on the top or something. Personally I do not care, but an artist cannot be compelled to create.

[Andaman Al]

1 minute ago, DoctorG said:

Would you support making a muslim baker make one for Jews. black baker making for KKK, or Jewish baker for Nazis?

Are you SERIOUSLY making a comparison between a gay couple wanting a cake to "black baker making for KKK, or Jewish baker for Nazis?". SERIOUSLY !!! That is so bad I need to jump on the outrage bus! That is SO SO SO BAD! Have Gays been responsible for the genocide, murder, enslavement of Christians? WOW! just wow! This is the Trump era when you think that comment is ok.

[Andaman Al]

1 minute ago, DoctorG said:

As I thought. You have nothing but wind.

If you are thinking of the baker then you surely know that he did not refuse to serve them, he declined to make a special cake for them on religious grounds. I guess they wanted 2 grooms on the top or something. Personally I do not care, but an artist cannot be compelled to create.

Ah! So you did know. It was nothing like wind, clearly Trump has it that you would lie so it's ok. As I said if you didn't know you must have been living in a cave. You did know! Good news is I guess you haven't been living in a cave. I guess that's the list of the good news.

[Gillyflower]

2 hours ago, pegman said:

By the looks of her she could miss a meal or 2, or 10. Same for her boss.

Besides the fact that she has an extremely unpleasant voice, and she certainly isn't much to look at.

[riclag]

3 hours ago, Odysseus123 said:

It is quite astonishing that she chose to name the restaurant at a media conference.They hardly had a right of reply at that particular moment,did they?

Many reviews on yelp. Yelp has a special guideline notice on this restaurant because of the recent news.They were closed Saturday . One of the many reviews for June 23.

"Poor service and terrible judgement. Their food leans left and spoils right away. They wouldn't serve me bc I love my country and my president.
I'm not sure why my political leanings matter but to them it does so I was asked to leave".

 

Sad day for America,they seem a little uppity in their price anyway

 

Edited June 24, 2018 by riclag

[stevenl]

3 minutes ago, riclag said:

Many reviews on yelp. Yelp has a special guideline notice on this restaurant because of the recent news.They were closed Saturday . One of the many reviews for June 23.

"Poor service and terrible judgement. Their food leans left and spoils right away. They wouldn't serve me bc I love my country and my president.
I'm not sure why my political leanings matter but to them it does so I was asked to leave".

 

So she is petty as well.

[Tug]

Na the owner just dident want that Woman in her restaurant just distugsted by the sight of her and her ilk

[Silurian]

4 hours ago, rooster59 said:

...Sanders said on the official Press Secretary Twitter account.

 

Interesting that she used the official Press Secretary account instead of her own personal twitter account to make a statement. Was she at the restaurant on official government business? I guess this instance required the use of government resources to make a personal point. Smacks of abuse of power.

[Odysseus123]

2 minutes ago, riclag said:

Many reviews on yelp. Yelp has a special guideline notice on this restaurant because of the recent news.They were closed Saturday . One of the many reviews for June 23.

"Poor service and terrible judgement. Their food leans left and spoils right away. They wouldn't serve me bc I love my country and my president.
I'm not sure why my political leanings matter but to them it does so I was asked to leave".

 

"they wouldn't serve me bc I love country and my president"

Presumably the tweeter had their patriotic opinions tattooed on their forehead for  all the staff to see.. 

[mtls2005]

I believe the owner of this establishment was trying to do Ms. Sanders and her party a HUGE service.

 

Given the make-up of the kitchen staff, it would have been difficult to minimize the volume of bodily fluids added to the Sanders' party's entrees and drinks.

 

And the staff at the nearby "Varmints R' Us" or "KFR" (Kentucky Fried Racoon) would be less likely to add bodily fluids even given their lack of teeth.

 

As a bit of compensation, the Sanders party was offered full helpings of "Minny's Chocolate Pie", which they are said to have thoroughly enjoyed.

 

 

 

Edited June 24, 2018 by mtls2005

[MisterTee]

I bet Sarah wishes she was black, gay, trans, or Hispanic at the moment.

Then she'd get overwhelming support from the hypocrites who are bashing her now.

[riclag]

3 minutes ago, stevenl said:

So she is petty as well.

 Steven,who is petty the commentator or Ms.Sanders?

[stevenl]

2 minutes ago, riclag said:

 Steven,who is petty the commentator or Ms.Sanders?

Looking at the comment that is the same person.

"Many reviews on yelp. Yelp has a special guideline notice on this restaurant because of the recent news.They were closed Saturday . One of the many reviews for June 23.

"Poor service and terrible judgement. Their food leans left and spoils right away. They wouldn't serve me bc I love my country and my president.
I'm not sure why my political leanings matter but to them it does so I was asked to leave"."

 

But anybody using the government twitter account to personally comment on a eatery should be banned from that account.

 

Saturday closed but many reviews for Saturday?

Edited June 24, 2018 by stevenl

[dick dasterdly]

10 minutes ago, DoctorG said:

Would you support making a muslim baker make one for Jews. black baker making for KKK, or Jewish baker for Nazis?

Which is why I'm still in two minds about businesses being allowed to refuse service.

 

I'm sure we can all think of some examples of people we would happily refuse to serve if we had a business and they turned up at our establishment!   The authorities have to draw a line somewhere, and some people will approve of 'the line' whereas others will disapprove.  It will also be a constantly moving 'line' as prejudices change.

 

Refusing service for religious beliefs and the political party one supports are an obvious 'crossing of the line' to me.

[riclag]

1 minute ago, stevenl said:

Looking at the comment that is the same person.

 

But anybody using the government twitter account to personally comment on a eatery should be banned from that account.

Who should ban her the Gov or twitter

[stevenl]

Just now, riclag said:

Who should ban her the Gov or twitter

Who cares.

[VocalNeal]

4 hours ago, Somtamnication said:

but families should never be dragged into a fight and they all had a right to eat in peace.

First rule(s) of dinner parties. No conversation about religion or politics. 

 

Same hold true for proprietors of restaurants. Who the customers work for or what their political views are in non-of -the-business of the proprietor. What next? Banning employees of GM because her car broke-down.

Purely bad manners on the part of the proprietor of The Red Hen

 

IF of course any of this is true?

 

[riclag]

5 minutes ago, VocalNeal said:

First rule(s) of dinner parties. No conversation about religion or politics. 

 

Same hold true for proprietors of restaurants. Who the customers work for or what their political views are in non-of -the-business of the proprietor. What next? Banning employees of GM because her car broke-down.

Purely bad manners on the part of the proprietor of The Red Hen

 

IF of course any of this is true?

 

Its happening in other sectors too! The left has succeeded in dividing America!

Edited June 24, 2018 by riclag

[Scott]

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[sukhumvitneon]

Sarah Huckabee Sanders handled the situation with class.  I open carry on occasion and have been asked to leave restaurants/stores because the owner(s) didn't want firearms in their business, and I gladly complied because I respect the property rights of others.  I won't ever be back to spend money at those businesses though.

 

Perhaps a certain group of people who refused to leave a certain coffee shop in Philadelphia two months ago could take notes on how Ms. Sanders acted in Virginia.

[canuckamuck]

48 minutes ago, Andaman Al said:

 

 

Actually his point was incredibly well made. He was responding to this post from you:

 

Which was incredibly disingenuous at best. The Video that Pegman posted is showing you that actually it was the White Supremacist trash that turned up at Charlottesville. After their display of Nazi, KluKlux Klan style protest at Charlottesville as shown in the video, I am just amazed that more Antifa didn't turn up with baseball bats........oh but the White Supremacist trash brought semi automatic weapons. MAGA............

 

By the way another disingenuous statement "I don't have television so I don't get Fox news". That is BS. In that case would it be fair to say you get no news at all? Are your opinions based on absolutely no news because you don't have a TV or is Fox, just like CNN, MSNBC etc available on the very internet you are using now?

I don't think that video showed that at all, it was just a couple of liberals picking apart statements of someone they found to be easy targets. Just opinions nothing more.

He said I get opinions from Fox news, I explained that I do not watch television news.  I could have added that I find Fox news quite horrible and sensationalist. Yes I have the internet. Good detective work Sherlock.

[Andaman Al]

11 minutes ago, dick dasterdly said:

Refusing service for religious beliefs and the political party one supports are an obvious 'crossing of the line' to me.

Spin BS.

 

It is nothing to do with political parties. 50% of everyone that eats there at the 'Red Hen' will on average be Republican or Democrat. It is the fact that this woman stands up in front of the American people every day on behalf of the Kidnapper in Chief and she ........Lies. She lies incessantly, she is not a good person, she is utterly horrible. The administration is enforcing the removal of rights for certain minorities and the restaurant owner has every right to say 'you are not welcome in my establishment'  which she owns and pays taxes on. Sanders crosses the line every single day when she lies to the American public. I wouldn't want traitors in my restaurant either.  Sander's claims to be a Christian, so the day will come when she will say 'but I was just following orders', and God will say "just take elevator number 2, yes that's it, the one over there marked 'down'  ".'

[canuckamuck]

44 minutes ago, attrayant said:

 

So by your own admission, the post you were referring to contains no ideas.  Yet when I asked "what idea?",  you directed me back to that very post.  The post that contains no ideas.

 

And instead of the back-and-forth we're doing now, why don't you simply answer the question and put an end to it?

You are simply being obtuse about the whole thing. Pegman said intolerance of intolerance is a virtue. I said intolerance of ideas in never a virtue. Which is to say, we must allow people to have their ideas and the freedom to express them. Banning free speech and expression is fascist. Being intolerant of free expression is intolerance. People with unhealthy and dangerous ideas are best sorted out through the function of unobstructed debate.

[Chomper Higgot]

15 minutes ago, VocalNeal said:

First rule(s) of dinner parties. No conversation about religion or politics. 

 

Same hold true for proprietors of restaurants. Who the customers work for or what their political views are in non-of -the-business of the proprietor. What next? Banning employees of GM because her car broke-down.

Purely bad manners on the part of the proprietor of The Red Hen

 

IF of course any of this is true?

 

Keep in mind it was Huckabee herself who publicized this.

 

The restaurant owner has responded but of course does not have access to do so from a White House lectern.

 

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/06/sarah-huckabee-sanders-owner-of-red-hen-explains-why-she-asked-white-house-press-secretary-to-leave.html

[NorthernRyland]

46 minutes ago, Andaman Al said:

Are you SERIOUSLY making a comparison between a gay couple wanting a cake to "black baker making for KKK, or Jewish baker for Nazis?". SERIOUSLY !!! That is so bad I need to jump on the outrage bus! That is SO SO SO BAD! Have Gays been responsible for the genocide, murder, enslavement of Christians? WOW! just wow! This is the Trump era when you think that comment is ok.

You're missing the point of the analogy. It's supposed to make you question the use of force to compel a person to perform a service. It doesn't matter who the 2 parties involved are. The use of force is the important part.

[riclag]

5 minutes ago, canuckamuck said:

You are simply being obtuse about the whole thing. Pegman said intolerance of intolerance is a virtue. I said intolerance of ideas in never a virtue. Which is to say, we must allow people to have their ideas and the freedom to express them. Banning free speech and expression is fascist. Being intolerant of free expression is intolerance. People with unhealthy and dangerous ideas are best sorted out through the function of unobstructed debate.

Her haters want her ban from twitter for using a government account, if I'm not mistaken!

Edited June 24, 2018 by riclag

[Chomper Higgot]

4 minutes ago, canuckamuck said:

You are simply being obtuse about the whole thing. Pegman said intolerance of intolerance is a virtue. I said intolerance of ideas in never a virtue. Which is to say, we must allow people to have their ideas and the freedom to express them. Banning free speech and expression is fascist. Being intolerant of free expression is intolerance. People with unhealthy and dangerous ideas are best sorted out through the function of unobstructed debate.

The idea we should be tolerant of all ideas is based on the fallacy that all ideas are of equal standing.

 

Ideas based on lies, that promote hatred or violence are clearly not tolerable.

[Odysseus123]

Just now, riclag said:

The haters want her ban from twitter for using a government account, if I'm not mistaken!

You can count me in on that one.The sooner public servants (albeit temporary ones) learn not to use their gov't accounts as a free for all-the better off we will all be.

[Andaman Al]

3 minutes ago, riclag said:

Her haters want her ban from twitter for using a government account, if I'm not mistaken!

Well you normally are so lets see how this one pans out.