balo Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 I would say 80% chance for a snake bite. But of course without an autopsy the speculations just continue 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dick dasterdly Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 (edited) 20 hours ago, JLCrab said: Thank you. So let's hear some 'strong argument' that the demise of the late H. Bernd was the result of foul play other than might have could have possibly maybe. Without any evidence, there's no chance of a "strong argument" either way. It's 'just' another suspicious death on the island. I don't understand why a knowledgeable snake handler didn't rush immediately to the hospital for anti-venom, after he was bitten by the snake? Edited July 17, 2018 by dick dasterdly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank83628 Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 3 hours ago, dick dasterdly said: Without any evidence, there's no chance of a "strong argument" either way. It's 'just' another suspicious death on the island. I don't understand why a knowledgeable snake handler didn't rush immediately to the hospital for anti-venom, after he was bitten by the snake? the King Cobra is not a native snake to the island, so there isnt any anti venom, pretty sure he was fullly aware of this, hence the call to his sister. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evadgib Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 3 hours ago, frank83628 said: the King Cobra is not a native snake to the island, so there isnt any anti venom, pretty sure he was fullly aware of this, hence the call to his sister. I find that hard to believe, given their presence on neibouring islands in line on sight. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLCrab Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 How could he rush immediately to the hospital when he was being held down by rival motorcycle shop owners? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemises Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Very sussssss-picious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank83628 Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 3 hours ago, evadgib said: I find that hard to believe, given their presence on neibouring islands in line on sight. pythons yes, cobras, never heard them mentioned... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoorSucker Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 8 hours ago, frank83628 said: pythons yes, cobras, never heard them mentioned... You have them on Samui, Phangan, so anti venom is available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornishcarlos Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, PoorSucker said: so anti venom is available. Is anti mafia available though ?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenchair Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 I have become desensitised. Another death on Koh Tao is like hearing about a motorcycle accident. Doesn't shock me anymore because it has happened so often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 On 7/10/2018 at 8:51 AM, cornishcarlos said: I worked on KT in 2001 and from what I saw then, your comment is very likely true.... It's a lawless little place... I visited around that time and it seemed nice enough. 10 years later when I passed by on the way to Phangan every possible boulder had a building on it, and I never went back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtom Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Sure but from the linked 'Sun' article he had already left: Bernd, a wealthy entrepreneur, moved to the island two decades ago, buying two properties and building up a motorbike rental business. But he left in 2016 after becoming frustrated with the corruption and hostility towards foreign business owners. He started another business in neighbouring island Koh Phayam before returning in March to "tie up loose ends". Koh Phayam is near Ranong in the andaman sea, Koh Phangan is near Koh Tao. Just saing ... Sent from my ASUS_X008D using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evadgib Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Related and of interest to brits: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-seeks-views-on-legal-aid-for-inquests Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clinty Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 (edited) Suspicious investigation again? Like for the case of the two British murdered, they had a suspect straight away, the son of the owner of AC but he said he cannot join is son by phone and the son appeared a week later with a video showing him in Bangkok at the time of the crime!? So Thai police don't know how about geolocation of a phone?this guy was on koh tao or not, just ask the phone company! Edited July 20, 2018 by clinty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLCrab Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 That assumes that at the time he was using a SIM card registered in his name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spectator2020 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 This latest mystery emerging from Koh Tao will do nothing to improve confidence for tourists considering this island as a holiday destination. You'd think the folks in charge would want to clear up the confusion if a snake happened to be the killer. Procrastination helps no one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank83628 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 (edited) there is no 'Mystery'....only the samui times and a few here are determined to see it as that, this happened nearly2 weeks before those idiots got hold of the info. Edited July 24, 2018 by frank83628 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmynewbie Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 The Thai authorities kept it quiet as usual. The German media first produced the article and the family only spoke to media after some of their own investigations ie speaking to German police , can not believe people still go to death island! Even more unbelievable are the apologists on here like Frank (no doubt a diver on Kt)! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmynewbie Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 (edited) Frank Jos and co Do some research find out where the original article came from. You are proving you are nothing but a troll or on the mafia/police payroll. Edited July 24, 2018 by jimmynewbie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank83628 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, jimmynewbie said: Frank Jos and co Do some research find out where the original article came from. You are proving you are nothing but a troll or on the mafia/police payroll. hows cambodia jimmynewbie/adam? Edited July 24, 2018 by frank83628 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmynewbie Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 This is a Thai Forum, you have lost me ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pattayadgw Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 When are people going to realize.... 'STAY AWAY FROM THAT ISLAND'!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evadgib Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 13 hours ago, pattayadgw said: When are people going to realize.... 'STAY AWAY FROM THAT ISLAND'!!! Yet your SN suggests Patters and your location is given as Phuket..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swanny321 Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 On 7/10/2018 at 3:52 AM, JLCrab said: Why? Because I lived through the 'Son of Sam' serial murders in New York City 1976-77 when a city of millions of people were scared silly to go outside at night lest they get their heads blown off with a high-powered hand gun. Anyone who lived through anything like that knows that what is called 'serial killings' here is a mockery to anyone who lived through the real thing. So one could say you went from Son of Sam to the sun of Siam ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmynewbie Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 (edited) What is the population of NY compared to Koh Tao? Nonsense comment! The Thais call it Ghost Island and many are scared to visit Edited July 30, 2018 by jimmynewbie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spectator2020 Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 Does anyone else get the impression that Bernd Grotsch's death is being swept under the carpet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Dude Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 Koh Tao operates outside of Thai law. The island does what it likes and the local families there who control everything are simply the descendants of coconut pickers and pirates. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balo Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 3 hours ago, Spectator2020 said: Does anyone else get the impression that Bernd Grotsch's death is being swept under the carpet? No, it's only you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 On 7/25/2018 at 8:25 PM, evadgib said: Yet your SN suggests Patters and your location is given as Phuket..? Classic Roger Moore at a moment of high drama - both eyebrows twitching! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannork Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Sir Dude said: Koh Tao operates outside of Thai law. The island does what it likes and the local families there who control everything are simply the descendants of coconut pickers and pirates. I imagine all the local inhabitants of the southern islands are descendants of coconut pickers or fishermen. After all what jobs were there on the islands pre-tourism? No doubt there were pirates too but I doubt that was restricted to only Koh Tao. Edited August 2, 2018 by bannork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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