Deported from thailand

[Old Croc]

Explains why the Feds still have an interest.

[sanemax]

5 minutes ago, micks88 said:

yeah, sinus issues 

How many did you take with you .

Pseudoephedrine can be used to make  methamphetamines

[sanemax]

40 minutes ago, micks88 said:

you serious OMFG

Was that your intention ?

[micks88]

Just now, sanemax said:

Was that your intention ?

to get rid of my cold and flu

[Maestro]

Removed an off-topic post.

[Ron19]

An off topic post and reply have been removed.

[Ron19]

Off topic posts and answers to them have been removed in a forum clean up

[Lacessit]

 I feel the OP is being economical with the truth.

Courts in Australia don't usually hand out criminal records and jail sentences to first offenders, or for trivial offences. Judges and magistrates try to avoid the stain of a conviction if possible, because they know how that affects the future prospects of a defendant.

In one of his posts, the OP referred to steroids. He now says the issue was importation of pseudoephedrines for a sinus problem.

If he doesn't want to reveal the full circumstances of his conviction, fine. I suspect if that information became public knowledge, he would be getting much less sympathy.

[Spidey]

8 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Courts in Australia don't usually hand out criminal records and jail sentences to first offenders, or for trivial offences.

Smuggling pseudoephedrines in large quantites isn't a trivial offence, it's a very serious offence. If the OP had wanted it for a sinus problem it would have been very easy to visit a doctor in Australia and obtain a prescription for an appropriate amount.

 

The only reason someone would traffic a large amount of this drug into Australia would be to manufacture methamphetamines. The authorities are fully aware of this and he received an appropriate sentence for this crime.

 

I am now giving a previous posters comment that he was a M/C gang member some credence. Aussie Outlaws have/have had a strong presence here in Pattaya and have made large amounts of money from international drug trafficking. Police have had several crackdowns on them recently.

 

Also, Outlaw gang members, in Australia have had convictions from the manufacture of methamphetamines.

 

Message to OP: Drug traffickers/ Aussie Outlaws are not welcome in Thailand. Choose another destination for your "holiday". I hear Bali is nice at this time of year.

[BestB]

23 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

 I feel the OP is being economical with the truth.

Courts in Australia don't usually hand out criminal records and jail sentences to first offenders, or for trivial offences. Judges and magistrates try to avoid the stain of a conviction if possible, because they know how that affects the future prospects of a defendant.

In one of his posts, the OP referred to steroids. He now says the issue was importation of pseudoephedrines for a sinus problem.

If he doesn't want to reveal the full circumstances of his conviction, fine. I suspect if that information became public knowledge, he would be getting much less sympathy.

Do not know why you think he should be revealing his private life on anonymous forum with total strangers .

His private matters and what he discloses is his choice .

Point being Oz Police informs other countries and what are his options.

 

he did not say exactly what he imported, all a speculation, for all you know he imported viagra ?

[Old Croc]

4 minutes ago, BestB said:

Do not know why you think he should be revealing his private life on anonymous forum with total strangers .

His private matters and what he discloses is his choice .

Point being Oz Police informs other countries and what are his options.

 

he did not say exactly what he imported, all a speculation, for all you know he imported viagra ?

Try reading post 59.

[BestB]

5 minutes ago, Old Croc said:

Try reading post 59.

Try having a sense of humor , not that it’s relevant to OP’s question 

[Old Croc]

Come on people, the guy has (eventually) admitted he was caught trying to import a drug into Australia, bought over the counter in Thailand, that is used in the production of meth. He was caught and served time. His comments about sinus problems were a form of humour.

When he again tried to travel to Thailand the AFP passed on his details to local Immigration and he was refused entry. He would presumably now be on a blacklist and would only be able to enter illegally.

[Old Croc]

6 minutes ago, BestB said:

Try having a sense of humor , not that it’s relevant to OP’s question 

Read your post again, still didn't spot your humour.

[ELVIS123456]

9 hours ago, micks88 said:

yeah, sinus issues 

Banned for 10 years minimum. Probably for life.

 

[ubonjoe]

2 minutes ago, ELVIS123456 said:

Banned for 10 years minimum. Probably for life.

 

For what country?

He was not prosecuted here in Thailand so there is no banning in place.

He was likely denied entry for having a criminal record under section 12 clause 6 of the immigration act.

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6. Having been imprisoned by the judgement of the Thai Court ; or by a lawful injunction ; or by
the judgement of the Court of foreign country , except when the penalty is foe petty offense or negligence
or is provided for as an exception in the Ministerial Regulations.

 

[chippendale]

25 minutes ago, BestB said:

Try having a sense of humor , not that it’s relevant to OP’s question 

What humor??

[ELVIS123456]

6 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

For what country?

He was not prosecuted here in Thailand so there is no banning in place.

He was likely denied entry for having a criminal record under section 12 clause 6 of the immigration act.

 

Thanks - detail is important.

 

I should have said  "denied entry for life" - until criminal records cleared in both Aust and Thailand - which for that offence is extremely unlikely.

 

Thinking about it more. I reckon he is lucky - if he was going to try and do the same thing again. They could have followed him and tracked him, and maybe even set him up. He could have been looking at a life sentence or even worse. 

 

[ubonjoe]

Two baiting posts have been removed. Time to end the bickering.

[Lacessit]

1 hour ago, BestB said:

Do not know why you think he should be revealing his private life on anonymous forum with total strangers .

His private matters and what he discloses is his choice .

Point being Oz Police informs other countries and what are his options.

 

he did not say exactly what he imported, all a speculation, for all you know he imported viagra ?

When did I say that? All I said was I felt he was being economical with the truth.

He did say the pharmaceutical was pseudoephedrine.

We all make choices as to the amount of information we reveal on these forums. Others can then read between the lines.

[goegoe]

2 hours ago, Lacessit said:

 I feel the OP is being economical with the truth.

Courts in Australia don't usually hand out criminal records and jail sentences to first offenders, or for trivial offences. Judges and magistrates try to avoid the stain of a conviction if possible, because they know how that affects the future prospects of a defendant.

In one of his posts, the OP referred to steroids. He now says the issue was importation of pseudoephedrines for a sinus problem.

If he doesn't want to reveal the full circumstances of his conviction, fine. I suspect if that information became public knowledge, he would be getting much less sympathy.

 

I also do not believe that anyone would be jailed in Australia for just importing medicines...

 

 

[jenny2017]

2 hours ago, Lacessit said:

 I feel the OP is being economical with the truth.

Courts in Australia don't usually hand out criminal records and jail sentences to first offenders, or for trivial offences. Judges and magistrates try to avoid the stain of a conviction if possible, because they know how that affects the future prospects of a defendant.

In one of his posts, the OP referred to steroids. He now says the issue was importation of pseudoephedrines for a sinus problem.

If he doesn't want to reveal the full circumstances of his conviction, fine. I suspect if that information became public knowledge, he would be getting much less sympathy.

A good one. When I've read his posts, it wasn't just about steroids, there must have been other stuff involved that's considered very illegal.

 

Users usually get help, instead of jail time. So, it's pretty easy to understand what he did. But who am I to sentence him? 

 

It's just not cool that he's seeking advice, but doesn't tell us the truth. He could be very dangerous for kids, who knows? Many people on speed are often sex monsters, even when the physical part might not even work out.  

 

I'd not give a dishonest guy any advice, that's just a principle. 

[richard_smith237]

Government & Immigration are unable to prevent people from leaving their shores unless they have outstanding arrest warrants etc.

Someone who has completed their sentence is a free citizen. However, when an ex criminal departs their home country 'some authorities' may see fit to 'advise' the destination country that an ex-convict is due to arrive at their shores. This is commonly the case for sex offenders and it is not uncommon for Australian authorities to contact Thai Immigration to advise them that someone who has been convicted of a crime is on a flight heading to Thailand. The Australian authorities are unable to legally prevent the ex-convict from traveling, but the Thai Authorities (Immigration) are within their rights to prevent entry into Thailand.

 

A criminal record may be sufficient that his departure was flagged by the Australian authorities who forewarned Thai Immigration of  the imminent arrival of an 'undesirable'. How the Thai Authorities respond to this information is entirely up to them. 

 

 

 

 

Edited July 25, 2018 by richard_smith237

[digbeth]

Pure pseudoephedrine is banned as over the counter drug in Thailand since 2012 due to the fact that it is used as starter to make meth

When the ban first came there were many case of missing large amount of the pills from hospitals and pharmacy that went to the illegal drug trade

It's now only available in pills mixed with paracetamol that makes it useless to produce meth. 

 

If someone was importing lots of pseudoephedrine from Thailand and was convicted, Thai authorities would probably be interested in that person as well

 

[Lacessit]

2 minutes ago, digbeth said:

It's now only available in pills mixed with paracetamol that makes it useless to produce meth. 

 

 

 

Any competent chemist can work out a way to separate paracetamol from pseudoephedrine. It's just a matter of equipment and technique.

[dbrenn]

22 hours ago, goegoe said:

 

I also do not believe that anyone would be jailed in Australia for just importing medicines...

 

 

Precursors used to make controlled substances are restricted, and it's against the law to import them without a licence.

[bkk6060]

15 hours ago, Lacessit said:

Any competent chemist can work out a way to separate paracetamol from pseudoephedrine. It's just a matter of equipment and technique.

Yes certainly, the world is full of Heisenbergs. ?

Edited July 26, 2018 by bkk6060
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