Trump's attacks on media may lead to real violence - U.N. expert

[webfact]

Trump's attacks on media may lead to real violence - U.N. expert

 

U.S. President Donald Trump attends a meeting with inner city pastors at the Cabinet Room of the White House in Washington D.C., U.S., August 1, 2018. REUTERS/Carlos Barria

 

GENEVA (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump's verbal attacks on the media run the risk of triggering real violence against journalists, the U.N. rapporteur for freedom of expression said on Thursday.

 

In a joint statement with Edison Lanza, who holds the same post at the Inter-American Commission on Human Rights, David Kaye said Trump's tirades against the media violated the basic norms of press freedom.

 

“These attacks run counter to the country’s obligations to respect press freedom and international human rights law," they said.

 

"We are especially concerned that these attacks increase the risk of journalists being targeted with violence."

 

Trump frequently brands stories and outlets he dislikes as "fake news". Last week CNN said one of its White House correspondents was excluded from a Trump event, prompting a complaint from the White House Correspondents Association.

 

The freedom of expression experts said Trump's attacks on the press were designed to raise doubts about verifiable facts, and that he and his administration had sought to undermine reporting on potential illegal conduct.

 

"But he has failed to show even once that specific reporting has been driven by any untoward motivations," Kaye and Lanza said.

 

They also urged the administration to stop suing journalists to discover their sources and to stop using the Espionage Act to pursue whistle-blowers. There have been at least two prosecutions of people leaking to journalists under that law.

 

(Reporting by Tom Miles; Editing by Robin Pomeroy)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2018-08-03

[Credo]

It says a lot when the UN is warning about violence against journalists.   Isn't that usually what happens in dictatorships and 3rd world countries?

 

[khwaibah]

This is what the red neck and flat earth society members who rule America want. 

[Jingthing]

1 hour ago, Credo said:

It says a lot when the UN is warning about violence against journalists.   Isn't that usually what happens in dictatorships and 3rd world countries?

 

Yep. 
"trump" -- Making America a Banana Republic

[lovelomsak]

3 hours ago, webfact said:

In a joint statement with Edison Lanza, who holds the same post at the Inter-American Commission on Human Rights, David Kaye said Trump's tirades against the media violated the basic norms of press freedom.

Oh I got it the president of the USA is now not allowed free speech it interferes with the media trying to bash him all the time. 

[bristolboy]

7 minutes ago, lovelomsak said:

Oh I got it the president of the USA is now not allowed free speech it interferes with the media trying to bash him all the time. 

Oh, I got it the president of the USA is not allowed to be criticized because it interferes with him trying to bash the media all the time.

And, yes, the above remark is just as foolish as the one that's quoted.

[watcharacters]

10 minutes ago, lovelomsak said:

Oh I got it the president of the USA is now not allowed free speech it interferes with the media trying to bash him all the time. 

 

 

Seems to me the current  POTUS is the one trying to stifle free speech in the media.

 

[Scott]

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[Tug]

Trump is a wannabe dictator as far as balls when a man sick’s 10,000 rabid fans on a 4 foot 11 lady journalist (Katy tur) I would call that a lack of balls the man is a bulley a cad and coward they are getting closer Donald it’s coming......soon

[BobBKK]

Just now, Tug said:

Trump is a wannabe dictator as far as balls when a man sick’s 10,000 rabid fans on a 4 foot 11 lady journalist (Katy tur) I would call that a lack of balls the man is a bulley a cad and coward they are getting closer Donald it’s coming......soon

2020 go vote but I think he'll probably win.

[bristolboy]

2 minutes ago, BobBKK said:

2020 go vote but I think he'll probably win.

Well, Trump and most of the rest of the Republicans are doing their best to not get in the way of the Russians hacking the election. So you may have a point.

 

 

[stevenl]

Unfortunately the word 'may' in the title should be replaced with 'will'.

[spidermike007]

Everything the tangerine tornado says is fake. Every time he attacks the media, the majority of the population within the US knows exactly what his agenda is. And worldwide, he is the laughing stock of the planet. He is a man of such modest intelligence, he cannot see that his words only have an effect on this relatively small base of devotees. He started the war with the media. And they are simply calling him out, as a liar and a thief, a traitor, and a fool.

 

So far, however, Mr Trump’s broadsides have failed to dent faith in his targets. On behalf of The Economist, during the past three years YouGov, a pollster, has asked a representative sample of Americans to rate large American news organisations on a scale from “very trustworthy” to “very untrustworthy”. (We calculate net trustworthiness on a scale of -100 to 100 from a weighted average of “very trustworthy” (100), “trustworthy” (50), “neither trustworthy or untrustworthy” (0), “untrustworthy” (-50) and “very untrustworthy” (-100).) From October 15th 2016, shortly before he was elected, to this month, confidence in Mr Trump’s two most frequently targeted newspapers, the New York Times and Washington Post, has actually grown. During the same period, trust in two media outlets that offer him reliably fawning coverage, Fox News and Breitbart, has withered. 

 

https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2018/07/30/donald-trumps-attacks-on-the-media-may-have-backfired

[anon467367354]

ANTIFA, BLM, Soros' Media Matters funded protests and riots. Taking down historical monuments, wiping out history and that's all great.

But....

patriotic Americans chanting CNN sucks to a whining, heckling activist, pseudo reporter named Acosta is now dangerous?

When have Trump supporters ever became violent? Never.

What the media has been doing by definition is not free speech, but treasonous, they are destroying themselves and will have nobody but themselves to blame when they are gone. Good riddance fake news, you won't missed!

[Chomper Higgot]

Trump’s attacks on the media are textbook examples of ‘Stochastic Terrorism’.

 

He incites anger in the full knowledge that someone will eventually respond with violence towards the target he has identified and vilified.

 

 

[bristolboy]

4 minutes ago, gr8fldanielle said:

ANTIFA, BLM, Soros' Media Matters funded protests and riots. Taking down historical monuments, wiping out history and that's all great.

But....

patriotic Americans chanting CNN sucks to a whining, heckling activist, pseudo reporter named Acosta is now dangerous?

When have Trump supporters ever became violent? Never.

What the media has been doing by definition is not free speech, but treasonous, they are destroying themselves and will have nobody but themselves to blame when they are gone. Good riddance fake news, you won't missed!

"Soros' Media Matters funded protests and riots."

Got any honest website or source you can link to to provide evidence?

[FitnessHealthTravel]

Acosta isn't a Journalist. He is a disrespectful clown. He is planted there to deliberately cause trouble. You have an opinion,Trump has an opinion then there's the TRUTH. The truth is what really happened and needs to be proven.  He's what happening in the US. Even proof is ignored now.  People HATE who is delivering the truth so much they dismiss it.  I think it all has to go a full circle and if it keeps going there may well be real problems then so be it. 

[bristolboy]

1 minute ago, FitnessHealthTravel said:

Acosta isn't a Journalist. He is a disrespectful clown. He is planted there to deliberately cause trouble. . The truth is what really happened and needs to be proven.  He's what happening in the US. Even proof is ignored now.  People HATE who is delivering the truth so much they dismiss it.  I think it all has to go a full circle and if it keeps going there may well be real problems then so be it. 

"You have an opinion,Trump has an opinion then there's the TRUTH"

  "People HATE who is delivering the truth so much they dismiss it."

Confused much?

[Becker]

43 minutes ago, gr8fldanielle said:

ANTIFA, BLM, Soros' Media Matters funded protests and riots. Taking down historical monuments, wiping out history and that's all great.

But....

patriotic Americans chanting CNN sucks to a whining, heckling activist, pseudo reporter named Acosta is now dangerous?

When have Trump supporters ever became violent? Never.

What the media has been doing by definition is not free speech, but treasonous, they are destroying themselves and will have nobody but themselves to blame when they are gone. Good riddance fake news, you won't missed!

"What the media has been doing by definition is not free speech, but treasonous...."

 

Well, if you can't come up with the definition you're referring to I'd say you're as full of it as the traitor in the WH.

 

Oh, and patriotic Americans don't support a draft dodging Russian agent.

[metisdead]

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[anon467367354]

12 minutes ago, heybruce said:

Do you think the Economist is not a credible source?  You've got to be kidding me! 

Where are they located, do you know?

How many subscribers and where and just how many in the USA? Do you know?

hardly a source for anything.

At least find out who they are first before crediting them for telling the truth.

[Get Real]

Don´t need to be a UN Expert do understand that everything that man says might have a potential to lead to a nuclear war.

[CanuckThai]

Nothing has changed.  Big money controls mainstream media.  Our increased tolerance and lust of the extreme, and rapid desensitization has evolved (good or bad), and it sells.  We're fed what big data says we want....

[heybruce]

1 hour ago, gr8fldanielle said:

ANTIFA, BLM, Soros' Media Matters funded protests and riots. Taking down historical monuments, wiping out history and that's all great.

But....

patriotic Americans chanting CNN sucks to a whining, heckling activist, pseudo reporter named Acosta is now dangerous?

When have Trump supporters ever became violent? Never.

What the media has been doing by definition is not free speech, but treasonous, they are destroying themselves and will have nobody but themselves to blame when they are gone. Good riddance fake news, you won't missed!

"When have Trump supporters ever became violent? Never."

 

Never?  Really? 

 

https://www.mediaite.com/online/trump-tells-crowd-to-knock-the-crap-out-of-protesters-offers-to-pay-legal-fees/

 

https://mashable.com/2016/03/12/trump-rally-incite-violence/#6GWAjinX9iqR

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/03/10/trump-protester-sucker-punched-at-north-carolina-rally-videos-show/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.535942314c8e

Edited August 3, 2018 by heybruce

[anon467367354]

4 minutes ago, heybruce said:

"When have Trump supporters ever became violent? Never."

 

Never?  Really? 

 

https://www.mediaite.com/online/trump-tells-crowd-to-knock-the-crap-out-of-protesters-offers-to-pay-legal-fees/

 

https://mashable.com/2016/03/12/trump-rally-incite-violence/#6GWAjinX9iqR

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/03/10/trump-protester-sucker-punched-at-north-carolina-rally-videos-show/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.535942314c8e

you have a lone protester at a Trump rally that got punched, and you're comparing this to paid riots???? <deleted> happens!

 

Trump is right, it is time to hit back. Do you just post links based on headlines, or do you actually read the articles? that's rhetorical, I know the answer.

 

Demonstrators interrupted a Trump rally in St. Louis, Missouri, Friday. As they were being escorted out of the venue, the candidate bemoaned the fact that there were no longer "consequences" to protesting and insisted the "country has to toughen up."

“You know, part of the problem and part of the reason it takes so long is nobody wants to hurt each other anymore, right?" he explained. His remarks are heard just after the seven-minute mark in the video above.

Outside the event, people screamed profanity and anti-Muslim rhetoric at each other while a bloodied protester was given medical treatment. Thirty two people were arrested.

[heybruce]

25 minutes ago, heybruce said:

Do you think the Economist is not a credible source?  You've got to be kidding me! 

 

10 minutes ago, gr8fldanielle said:

Where are they located, do you know?

How many subscribers and where and just how many in the USA? Do you know?

hardly a source for anything.

At least find out who they are first before crediting them for telling the truth.

You've never heard of the Economist so you assume...what?

 

They are located in London.  The link you provided explains that, but apparently you didn't read it.  It also provides the names of its board and a link to the staff directory.  They have a circulation of 1.5 million  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Economist.  Readers include world and corporate leaders, academics, journalists, and, for many years, me.  When they publish an unfavorable article about a country they frequently receive a letter from a high level ambassador disputing the article.  People who want to stay informed read the Economist.

[heybruce]

6 minutes ago, gr8fldanielle said:

you have a lone protester at a Trump rally that got punched, and you're comparing this to paid riots???? <deleted> happens!

 

Trump is right, it is time to hit back. Do you just post links based on headlines, or do you actually read the articles? that's rhetorical, I know the answer.

 

Demonstrators interrupted a Trump rally in St. Louis, Missouri, Friday. As they were being escorted out of the venue, the candidate bemoaned the fact that there were no longer "consequences" to protesting and insisted the "country has to toughen up."

“You know, part of the problem and part of the reason it takes so long is nobody wants to hurt each other anymore, right?" he explained. His remarks are heard just after the seven-minute mark in the video above.

Outside the event, people screamed profanity and anti-Muslim rhetoric at each other while a bloodied protester was given medical treatment. Thirty two people were arrested.

Thank you for confirming that Trump supporters do get violent and Trump supports the violence.

[heybruce]

16 minutes ago, CanuckThai said:

Nothing has changed.  Big money controls mainstream media.  Our increased tolerance and lust of the extreme, and rapid desensitization has evolved (good or bad), and it sells.  We're fed what big data says we want....

Agreed, big money controls most mainstream media, which gives mainstream media the resources to have reporters and sources all over the world, and the audience numbers for have clout and access to high level leaders.  Competition among mainstream media outlets motivate the outlets to provide current, accurate news.

 

So what's your point?

[metisdead]

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[anon467367354]

7 minutes ago, heybruce said:

 

You've never heard of the Economist so you assume...what?

 

They are located in London.  The link you provided explains that, but apparently you didn't read it.  It also provides the names of its board and a link to the staff directory.  They have a circulation of 1.5 million  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Economist.  Readers include world and corporate leaders, academics, journalists, and, for many years, me.  When they publish an unfavorable article about a country they frequently receive a letter from a high level ambassador disputing the article.  People who want to stay informed read the Economist.

that was exactly my freaking point! There are not in the US, they have an extremely low subscription rate and that's recent. After WWII less than 100,000. 57% of their subscribers are in the Canada and the US.

Who are they to report fairly about the US when the UK is a mess.

Didn't you guys vote on Brexit?? how's that working out for you?

PM May, is that the best you can do? Does she live in a "no go zone"?

Who's the mayor of London? great job, no free speech there is there? When are you going to take away the right to own a knife? Knives kill!!!!

And you're going to quote The Economist as if they were even remotely relevant?

America right now is kicking ass and you guys just can't stand it can you?