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Thai ID card coding

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I hope this is the correct forum to ask this.

In the past there's been some discussion about the first digit of Thai ID cards.

 

What I can't find anything about is '9' as the first digit.

For some reason I thought it was reserved for the royal family, but last week I saw a photo of someone from the south arrested for something or other, along with a photo of his ID, which had '9' as the first digit.

 

Second point is about foreigners who have gained Thai nationality. That is an '8' first digit. The photo of a card I saw was a pink ID card, not the blue Thai card.

Does that mean only a Thai by birth will ever have the blue ID card?

 

This is the page listing some of the details: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thai_identity_card

 

What I (believed to) know.

 

#9 is for the Royal family. No idea about this arrested person. Fake? Bad joke?

 

#8 is given for foreigners with permanent residency.

Uncertain about this:

If they are naturalized they will keep the ID but get a blue Thai ID card. ?

Edited by KhunBENQ

29 minutes ago, jackdd said:

https://th.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/เลขประจำตัวประชาชนไทย

 

First digit 9 is for people who are not Thai but are somehow permitted to stay in Thailand. I don't understand it much, but nothing to do with royal family

 

Yes. It is for stateless persons who cannot get Thai nationality but have been granted permission to stay in Thailand.

The single biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place

 

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2 minutes ago, Maestro said:

 

Yes. It is for stateless persons who cannot get Thai nationality but have been granted permission to stay in Thailand.

Hi, where does this information come from? Do you have a link or or something else?

 

45 minutes ago, KhunBENQ said:

Uncertain about this:

If they are naturalized they will keep the ID but get a blue Thai ID card. ?

 

It looks like this.

 

There this diagramme, but with the first digit nine missing: 

 

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Source: http://www.isaanlawyers.com/pink-id-card-for-foreigners-in-thailand/digits-of-thai-id-card/

 

The single biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place

 

15 minutes ago, bluesofa said:

Hi, where does this information come from? Do you have a link or or something else?

 

 

From the link given above by jackdd:

https://th.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/เลขประจำตัวประชาชนไทย#ประเภทที่_9 (in Thai language)

There is the link senate.go.th/w3c/senate/pictures/comm/56/file_1382602801.doc, now dead, on this subject. There is probably something on http://www.krisdika.go.th, but the site seems down at the moment and one would have to know how to look for it.

The single biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place

 

Interesting and negating the "royal" theory.

Royals being in this category just as "exceptional"?

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Yes, I noticed that before, and was slightly confused.

 

When everyone receives their tax return from the Tax Department, it has their ID number at the top. I came across this years ago. The envelope is listed as being sent to Rama 9:

 

King's-IDNo-Tax-return.jpg

Edited by bluesofa

Does the revenue department perhaps use the first digit nine for foreigners who do not have a Thai ID number, ie who are not listed in a house registration book or for juristic persons or both?

The single biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place

 

Maybe somebody just made a mistake on Wikipedia. A few months ago somebody changed the title of this paragraph from digit "0" to digit "9"

 

Here is some other source: http://region1.prd.go.th/ewt_news.php?nid=17958

This source says 9 means royal family

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3 minutes ago, jackdd said:

Maybe somebody just made a mistake on Wikipedia. A few months ago somebody changed the title of this paragraph from digit "0" to digit "9"

 

Here is some other source: http://region1.prd.go.th/ewt_news.php?nid=17958

This source says 9 means royal family

That seems to fit in with the tax return envelope. All I know is that was how it was described when I saved the image.

Baffling that different sources have different ideas though.

 

11 hours ago, bluesofa said:

That seems to fit in with the tax return envelope.

That does not appear to be a atual ID number issued by an Amphoe. The digits on it do not match up to one. It is likely only a tax identification number (TIN) that the revenue department issues to those that do not have a ID number.

At one time even Thais were issued a TIN until the regulation were changed so that a Thai ID number is used.

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2 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

That does not appear to be a atual ID number issued by an Amphoe. The digits on it do not match up to one. It is likely only a tax identification number (TIN) that the revenue department issues to those that do not have a ID number.

At one time even Thais were issued a TIN until the regulation were changed so that a Thai ID number is used.

That's interesting UJ.

You obviously know more about it that me. I don't live in Bangkok, but without looking it up, I assumed in the 9-1001- part, 10 was BKK and 01 was amphur muang, but I don't know if BKK follows the same as the rest of the country.

Or is there something else I've missed?

 

22 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

That does not appear to be a atual ID number issued by an Amphoe. The digits on it do not match up to one. It is likely only a tax identification number (TIN) that the revenue department issues to those that do not have a ID number.

At one time even Thais were issued a TIN until the regulation were changed so that a Thai ID number is used.

Actually it matches up to an ID number:

1: 9 = royal family according to the second source

2-3: 10 = Bangkok

4-5: 01 = Amphoe Meuang

6-10: He got number 1 because he was the King

11-12: Again number 1 because he was the King

13: Checksum

 

Edited by jackdd

8 minutes ago, bluesofa said:

I don't live in Bangkok, but without looking it up, I assumed in the 9-1001- part, 10 was BKK and 01 was amphur muang, but I don't know if BKK follows the same as the rest of the country.

Not sure how they number the provinces and Amphoes. I would think it could be 01 and upwards for province and Amphoe. Alos I don't think a check sum would be 0.

The numbering is the same in every province.

6 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

Not sure how they number the provinces and Amphoes. I would think it could be 01 and upwards for province and Amphoe. Alos I don't think a check sum would be 0.

The numbering is the same in every province.

The provinces are numbered according to ISO 3166-2:TH https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_3166-2:TH so Bangkok is 10

A checksum can of course be 0, there is no reason why this should not be possible

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3 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

Not sure how they number the provinces and Amphoes. I would think it could be 01 and upwards for province and Amphoe. Alos I don't think a check sum would be 0.

The numbering is the same in every province.

The ISO numbering for provinces is here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provinces_of_Thailand

for 9-1001- the 01 is always amphur muang, but you need to look up other amphurs per province individually.

Having said that I don't know if BKK is an exception regarding the 01.

I seem to remember KhunBENQ is pretty good on the checksums? Perhaps the RAMA 9 ID could be an exception anyway.

 

 

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