University in the US?

[mogandave]

My boy is in his first year of high school at a good Thai government school. He is a good student and gets good grades.

 

I am thinking of sending him to university in the US to get his undergrad, and coming back to Thailand for graduate school.

 

Will Thai universities generally accept credits from US universities?

 

Thanks

[Rhys]

Providing funds are available.. both the BA and MA should be done in the US... Better... quality of instruction...especially on Graduate level

 

Depends on his major...  Good luck... Generally depends on the Thai Uni, but if you have transcripts and are applying to an MA program.. that is basically all you need...  and the required GPA .

 

Good luck

 

 

 

[mogandave]

He would probably go to Texas A & M.

You He’s not sure what he wants to do (wife is pushing for doctor) but he is in a math and science program now and likes it.

[Scott]

I'd tend to go with a local University for the undergraduate and then overseas for graduate school.   I don't think it makes a huge difference, but the adjustment to University can be a little difficult and moving away from family, friends and fellow students might be a big social-psychological adjustment.   

 

If he has family or connections near the school the transition will be much easier.  

 

From an educational point of view, I think an overseas degree is going to look good on his resume, regardless of whether it is undergraduate or graduate.  

 

It's good that you are thinking about this now and hopefully you will have some good talks with your son so that he's on board with whatever decision is made.  

 

 

[mogandave]

I retired earlier this year and thought we’d all go. I’ve been working here for 17 years and my wife needs to spend 5 years in the US to qualify for my SS benefits.

My brother teaches law at A & M and my sister in law teaches marketing at Baylor, so I’m guessing he’ll go to one or the other.

Boy is at Triam Udom now and loves it, so if he really wants to stay here for his undergrad I’ll likely go along, but I’m going crazy here with no work....

[Scott]

Well, he certainly will have a reasonable support system, either way, so its a toss up.   He is attending a very reputable school, so I would guess that it's down to a family type decision as to what is best for everyone.  

 

Best of luck in whatever you decide.  

[lannarebirth]

On 8/25/2018 at 7:08 AM, mogandave said:

He would probably go to Texas A & M.

You He’s not sure what he wants to do (wife is pushing for doctor) but he is in a math and science program now and likes it.

 

Doctor in US or in Thailand? There are different pathways for each.

 

BTW, you are absolutely correct in planning for this even at this early stage. Everything to do with US college attendence usually has a 1-2 year lead time, ie: testing, pre-recs, establishing residency,applications, etc.

Edited August 27, 2018 by lannarebirth

[sirineou]

AT most state universities There is a big difference in tuition between state residents and out of state  students, You might want to find out how long you need to live in Texas to qualify for resident tuition, and perhaps start the process , especially since your wife wants to spend 5 years there to qualify for Social Security benefits.

[mogandave]

It’s a year residence to get in a Texas state school.

My wife wants him to be a doctor here, but I’m not hot on the unless he wants it.

I’d rather see him get an undergrad in engineering, and either a masters in business or his MD.

Getting an MD is tough in the US.

I wouldn’t mind him going into law. I sat in a few of my brother’s contract lectures and thought it fascinating.

As long as he’s happy and not on dope or some other jackassery I’m good...

[HAKAPALITA]

Our Son went ajrord to Uni Yes he did well, away five years , but he finds it hard now hes back adapting to Thai Business Ethics, worth bearing in mind. Hes 35 now, Graduated in Law, but now runs his own Hazardous Bulk Transport company , sometimes i think going away was wasted.Who can tell. Easy for me cause hes now direct and anti PC Cowards Bit like A young MoganDave.[emoji85][emoji86]


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[SheungWan]

On 8/27/2018 at 5:59 AM, mogandave said:

I retired earlier this year and thought we’d all go. I’ve been working here for 17 years and my wife needs to spend 5 years in the US to qualify for my SS benefits.

My brother teaches law at A & M and my sister in law teaches marketing at Baylor, so I’m guessing he’ll go to one or the other.

Boy is at Triam Udom now and loves it, so if he really wants to stay here for his undergrad I’ll likely go along, but I’m going crazy here with no work....

With the resources your family have at your disposal and given the whole crew will be going along, then the US pathway for the undergraduate course is a serious option assuming the kid is up for it. As for post-graduate, well no need to think about that now other than to review progress on the undergrad course when and whenever.

[HAKAPALITA]

Unless its changed A Thai Lady friend of my wife who was married to an American for many years came back when he died. 25/35 ago years now. She used to have to go back to sign for his Navy pension every few years. Saw her a while back, she told me she doesnt go anymore, the cost of the journey dilutes its worth and not coming from poor Family, plus shes old n tired and retired with Thai Pension.Its not like Norway where they just through money away to wives who return home.

[mogandave]

With the resources your family have at your disposal and given the whole crew will be going along, then the US pathway for the undergraduate course is a serious option assuming the kid is up for it. As for post-graduate, well no need to think about that now other than to review progress on the undergrad course when and whenever.

Thanks, and you’re right, a lot can happen in two years...

[mogandave]

Unless its changed A Thai Lady friend of my wife who was married to an American for many years came back when he died. 25/35 ago years now. She used to have to go back to sign for his Navy pension every few years. Saw her a while back, she told me she doesnt go anymore, the cost of the journey dilutes its worth and not coming from poor Family, plus shes old n tired and retired with Thai Pension.Its not like Norway where they just through money away to wives who return home.

I don’t think once social security starts it takes much to keep it coming...

[HAKAPALITA]

6 minutes ago, mogandave said:

 

I don’t think once social security starts it takes much to keep it coming...

 

When she had stayed there, no  prob, but lonely in Norfolk, no Thais her age,no kids. Just a heads up Our kids have gone, Good Education backfires when your old, they move on, dummies stay.

[Number 6]

If he's on a professional track such as law, medicine, email he needs to do the undergrad work here. Anything that will require boards, licencing...

 

Incidentally, your son is not at Triam Udom. He is at Triam Udom .............. TU is only M4-6. Good luck getting him there though!

Edited October 21, 2018 by Number 6

[mogandave]

If he's on a professional track such as law, medicine, email he needs to do the undergrad work here. Anything that will require boards, licencing...
 
Incidentally, your son is not at Triam Udom. He is at Triam Udom .............. TU is only M4-6. Good luck getting him there though!

Not sure what the difference is, but it’s the one between Siam Square an Chula.

[Number 6]

9 hours ago, mogandave said:

 

Not sure what the difference is, but it’s the one between Siam Square an Chula.

 

 

**The spell check corrected engineering to email.

 

Edit

 

Apologies, you are (may be) correct, while most Thai high schools (all really) run M1-6, first three grades are considered middle school, the latter high school. So, assuming he is M4 at Triam that would be quite understandable. He would be in his first year of high school.

 

Math/Science track students continue on to CU usually (some more politically inclined go to Thammasat) and then go abroad for graduate school as Scott had mentioned. This is especially true for medicine and law. It's fairly easy for Triam students to get accepted into Chulalongkorn law school and TU perhaps supplies 60% of all doctors to Thailand.

Chulalongkorn has the network the students want, as does Triam. Triam Udom Suksa was at one time part of CU. The bond is very strong.

 

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You stated he is M1. That would be impossible. That school is one of three in the country that are only M4-6. Triam Udom Suksa, "Triam Udom"

 

There are about half dozen. The original, oldest is the school you had mentioned.

 

Pattanakarn

Nomklao

Nonthaburi

Ratchada

Northeast

Suratthani (I think)

 

 

Edited October 21, 2018 by Number 6

[mogandave]

 
**The spell check corrected engineering to email.

 
Edit
 
Apologies, you are (may be) correct, while most Thai high schools (all really) run M1-6, first three grades are considered middle school, the latter high school. So, assuming he is M4 at Triam that would be quite understandable. He would be in his first year of high school.
 
Math/Science track students continue on to CU usually (some more politically inclined go to Thammasat) and then go abroad for graduate school as Scott had mentioned. This is especially true for medicine and law. It's fairly easy for Triam students to get accepted into Chulalongkorn law school and TU perhaps supplies 60% of all doctors to Thailand.
Chulalongkorn has the network the students want, as does Triam. Triam Udom Suksa was at one time part of CU. The bond is very strong.
 
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You stated he is M1. That would be impossible. That school is one of three in the country that are only M4-6. Triam Udom Suksa, "Triam Udom"
 
There are about half dozen. The original, oldest is the school you had mentioned.
 
Pattanakarn
Nomklao
Nonthaburi
Ratchada
Northeast
Suratthani (I think)
 
 

I never said he was in M1, I said he was in the first year of high school.

Thanks for all the input. My wife wants him to be a doctor, I would like him to get a BS in engineering and an MBA.

That said, as long as he is happy and stays off dope I’m good...

[GinBoy2]

My son was accepted and ultimately graduated, University of Chicago.

They accepted his Thai HS diploma, but he still needed to sit an entrance exam, which he passed handily.

That being said, I'm not sure he would have passed if his Mom, also an alumni of said University hadn't tutored him through it, based on his Thai HS alone

Whether or not there might be different criteria for a State Uni, I don't know

[Number 6]

2 hours ago, GinBoy2 said:

My son was accepted and ultimately graduated, University of Chicago.

They accepted his Thai HS diploma, but he still needed to sit an entrance exam, which he passed handily.

That being said, I'm not sure he would have passed if his Mom, also an alumni of said University hadn't tutored him through it, based on his Thai HS alone

Whether or not there might be different criteria for a State Uni, I don't know
 

That's obviously a top tier school. Seems like I always have two young men who have their sights on UC but they rarely have the grades and especially the big SAT score. Regardless of department and the fact it's in Chicago it's hugely competitive

 

Mogandave: Either way he's on the right track Math/Science at Triam. For Medicine he can start looking at the BMAT exam if he wants to enter CU first round.

 

Some students actively choose Mahidol, embrace it. The more elite local campus. Others, Salaya campus more a safety school.

 

There are about a dozen medical schools here. But for kids in top schools it's just the two that really matter.

 

Engineering both Thai and International programs are pretty achievable for those kids. Whatever it is, hopefully it's what he wants, not what you want. I see tons of miserable students annually. It's sort of excusable if a parent is in health care. But pushing just to have a doctor in the family freaks the kids out. It's a decade of work from M4. If their hearts are not in it, it's just total stress and misery. Many Thai parents don't get it. They have no clue what it takes aside from paying tutoring bills

 

These kids are never surgeons or cardiologists. They run skincare and Viagra clinics. Hospital checkup clinics. Shuffle between four hospitals.

Edited October 22, 2018 by Number 6

[GinBoy2]

3 hours ago, Number 6 said:

That's obviously a top tier school. Seems like I always have two young men who have their sights on UC but they rarely have the grades and especially the big SAT score. Regardless of department and the fact it's in Chicago it's hugely competitive

 

Mogandave: Either way he's on the right track Math/Science at Triam. For Medicine he can start looking at the BMAT exam if he wants to enter CU first round.

 

Some students actively choose Mahidol, embrace it. The more elite local campus. Others, Salaya campus more a safety school.

 

There are about a dozen medical schools here. But for kids in top schools it's just the two that really matter.

 

Engineering both Thai and International programs are pretty achievable for those kids. Whatever it is, hopefully it's what he wants, not what you want. I see tons of miserable students annually. It's sort of excusable if a parent is in health care. But pushing just to have a doctor in the family freaks the kids out. It's a decade of work from M4. If their hearts are not in it, it's just total stress and misery. Many Thai parents don't get it. They have no clue what it takes aside from paying tutoring bills

 

These kids are never surgeons or cardiologists. They run skincare and Viagra clinics. Hospital checkup clinics. Shuffle between four hospitals.

I went to UC Berkeley and would have much preferred him to go there rather than Chicago, for a lot of philosophical reasons.

But, Mom’s are Mom’s and they do rule the roost, and she was pretty insistent that he attend her old school

 

At the end of the day it all worked out fine

[Number 6]

On 10/23/2018 at 1:28 AM, GinBoy2 said:

I went to UC Berkeley and would have much preferred him to go there rather than Chicago, for a lot of philosophical reasons.

But, Mom’s are Mom’s and they do rule the roost, and she was pretty insistent that he attend her old school

 

At the end of the day it all worked out fine

Another obviously great school. First in UC system as well. I wanted to go there but in 1979 my father would have no part of it. Disowned I think he said...

 

Tiger Mom... fighting!!

 

It's good to know that there are actually a few educated farang about, as snobby as that may sound.

[GinBoy2]

5 hours ago, Number 6 said:

Another obviously great school. First in UC system as well. I wanted to go there but in 1979 my father would have no part of it. Disowned I think he said...

 

Tiger Mom... fighting!!

 

It's good to know that there are actually a few educated farang about, as snobby as that may sound.

Ugh, Tiger Moms.

 

As smart and as well educated as my wife is, she definitely still has the Thai female screaming gene. 

 

I learnt a long time ago....Resistance is Futile!

 

[GinBoy2]

7 hours ago, Number 6 said:

Another obviously great school. First in UC system as well. I wanted to go there but in 1979 my father would have no part of it. Disowned I think he said...

 

Tiger Mom... fighting!!

 

It's good to know that there are actually a few educated farang about, as snobby as that may sound.

It just occurred to me, we would have been there together had you gone there.

79 was my freshman year!

[Number 6]

I ended up taking a two year gap, navigated myself thru a few schools and finished in WDC

 

My politics have pretty much done a 180 in the last 15 years but do try to keep an open mind.

 

 

[GinBoy2]

On 10/25/2018 at 3:23 AM, Number 6 said:

I ended up taking a two year gap, navigated myself thru a few schools and finished in WDC

 

My politics have pretty much done a 180 in the last 15 years but do try to keep an open mind.

 

 

I think one of the benefits of probably any western university education, is that exposure to different political, social views, and the opportunity to express and explore.

 

That expression is just impossible in the Thai structure.

 

Berkeley, when I was there, wasn’t actually as radical as the popular press would have had you believe. 

 

The majority of us were just focused on our studies.

 

What it did do however was to foster a lifetime of being able to question and challenge my own inherent beliefs and prejudism's 

 

I truly belief that my 4 years there, exposing me to a range of ideas, so diverse from my families in Kern County, has allowed me over the years to be able to evolve as a thinking human.

 

Thats the true value of college, not that piece of paper at graduation, unlike  for Thai uni’s where  that paper is the only goal!

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