New Work Permit rules confirmed by Phuket Employment Office Chief

[thaimelody]

3 hours ago, Preacher said:

See it like this, the new rules allows you to become a driver on one of those new bath buses

Would that be in Pattaya? I'll bring my own towel and bubbles

[thaimelody]

19 minutes ago, gunnerterry said:

I doubt if the new rules effect the need to have a teachers licence as these are issued by MOE. However it would be interesting to know if you can now move schools and not have to go through the hassle of cancelling your work permit/visa and then having to get a new work permit and visa which is time consuming and expense for schools and teachers alike. 

The labour office does need to be notified or its a large fine for you and the employers. BUT your work permit is not 'cancelled' but a slip issued and the name of the new employer added. Immigration is a separate issue. I moved from one school to another in the early days of the law change, that was not fun, teaching immigration about the new laws. But it is possible to move from school to the next but admin doing the documents needs to have their ducks in a row

[Grusa]

6 hours ago, NCC1701A said:

"allowing foreigners with work permits to legally work in any field, anywhere in the country, for any employer as long as the work being done in not on the list of occupations prohibited to foreigners."

 

wow. I can perform brain surgery now. I'm off the Bangkok Hospital to let them know.

Hard to find any to operate on, in this country.

[0815]

7 hours ago, NCC1701A said:

"allowing foreigners with work permits to legally work in any field, anywhere in the country, for any employer as long as the work being done in not on the list of occupations prohibited to foreigners."

 

wow. I can perform brain surgery now. I'm off the Bangkok Hospital to let them know.

For a little commission I have a few patients for you to test your new business  ? 

[hugocnx]

Bugger now that I don't need a WP anymore. But, happy for my successor in biss.

Edited September 1, 2018 by hugocnx

[Pedrogaz]

As usual statement issued which raised far more questions than it answers.

[shady86]

Since they are on an extremely logical train of thought. Maybe they do away with ridiculous 90 day reports for WP holders?
 
Perhaps that's asking too much?

That's not related to WP. You should ask immigration for 90 days.

[Preacher]

3 hours ago, masuk said:

What if you're teaching non-Thais,  in another country?     i.e.  on-line teaching.

The rules didn't change regarding that. 

[ericthai]

4 hours ago, masuk said:

What if you're teaching non-Thais,  in another country?     i.e.  on-line teaching.

Dont tell anyone

[DILLIGAD]

Dont tell anyone

Doh! Too late!


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[scorecard]

But no information about:

 

- Apply on-line

- Renew on-line

[thesetat2013]

16 hours ago, Preacher said:

Some jobs not only require a work permit but also a license, like a doctor and a teacher. Without a license you can still not do these jobs.

luckily for him licenses can be easily bought... if not bought then can pay someone to take the test for him.. or if not, no worries since they made the medical entrance exam tests alot easier to pass.. 

at least this has all been in the news in the past 2 years. so i can only assume it still happens.. But who knows... perhaps i am incorrect.. Hmm... 

[gunderhill]

Does  this apply to neighbouring countries and the migrant workers?

[hotchilli]

18 hours ago, NCC1701A said:

"allowing foreigners with work permits to legally work in any field, anywhere in the country, for any employer as long as the work being done in not on the list of occupations prohibited to foreigners."

 

wow. I can perform brain surgery now. I'm off the Bangkok Hospital to let them know.

I'm ahead of you on that one, I sent my CV to Bumrungrad hospital last week, gynecology department

just waiting for the interview date.

 

[nrustwijk]

Where can i find the rules with different areas not allowed to work in?

Edited September 1, 2018 by nrustwijk

[davidst01]

20 hours ago, NCC1701A said:

"allowing foreigners with work permits to legally work in any field, anywhere in the country, for any employer as long as the work being done in not on the list of occupations prohibited to foreigners."

 

wow. I can perform brain surgery now. I'm off the Bangkok Hospital to let them know.

but do you have a medical license which you need to work there?

[Harveyg]

23 hours ago, philthebook said:

“Foreigners are now able to work anywhere in the country without registering the change in their work permit, but each foreigner’s employer must be listed in the work permit.
 

 

This seems contradictory.  My question:  suppose I want to reduce my hours at my present college to also work part time at another. On the one hand it seems I don’t have to register this change, but on the other, it seems the new employer must be listed on the work permit.

Any help much appreciated.

[overherebc]

26 minutes ago, Harveyg said:

This seems contradictory.  My question:  suppose I want to reduce my hours at my present college to also work part time at another. On the one hand it seems I don’t have to register this change, but on the other, it seems the new employer must be listed on the work permit.

Any help much appreciated.

Add in the fact that with a contract stating xx hours a week any change to the contract must be agreed between you and the employer. If he won't agree what will you do? resign and thereby lose your WP and extension?

Where it might work is if your employer opens a branch in another area and you decide to agree to a 50/50 split in working areas it means no need to apply for another WP.

Or if two different companies decide to split workers

( expats ) to cover both areas it makes it easier,  if you agree to the terms.

For me it really only benefits the employers.

Edited September 2, 2018 by overherebc

[FritsSikkink]

On ‎9‎/‎1‎/‎2018 at 11:30 AM, overherebc said:

New paragragh for contracts. ??

The employee agrees not to perform any work of any kind for any other employers without express permission of the first employer.

?????????

Nothing new about that.

[FritsSikkink]

22 hours ago, Cheops said:

Does this mean that you really can run an online business or shop without having to worry about WP issues now?

No, you still need a work permit for a job. If you have a work permit as a teacher, you can do online work for a business. 

[Cheops]

50 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

No, you still need a work permit for a job. If you have a work permit as a teacher, you can do online work for a business. 

Of course, and I have a WP already (not as a teacher though ?).

Obviously, I meant when someone has a WP already.

[overherebc]

3 minutes ago, Cheops said:

Of course, and I have a WP already (not as a teacher though ?).

Obviously, I meant when someone has a WP already.

As long as you declare earnings and pay the extra tax from the online work if the money is paid to your Thai bank ?????

[Cheops]

21 hours ago, Parsve said:

It probably does, but you still have to employ 4 thais.

Only if it's a registered business in Thailand, but not for example if it's an online shop run on a server in another country.

[Cheops]

1 minute ago, overherebc said:

As long as you declare earnings and pay the extra tax from the online work if the money is paid to your Thai bank ?????

But many foreigners run some online business and receive the money not in their Thai bank and the business is not even hosted on a Thai server (who would want a Thai hosting anyway?).

So for those cases you can now 'work' on your online business if you have a WP for another job, right?

[overherebc]

18 minutes ago, Cheops said:

But many foreigners run some online business and receive the money not in their Thai bank and the business is not even hosted on a Thai server (who would want a Thai hosting anyway?).

So for those cases you can now 'work' on your online business if you have a WP for another job, right?

I would say 'unclear' as the new rules say work for another employer!!!!

Re tax if income goes to your home country and you bring into Thailand in the next year it does not attract Thai tax.

Edited September 2, 2018 by overherebc

[Cheops]

“We have announced it on the website www.doe.go.th in Thai, but we don’t have an English version posted yet,” he said. 

Yeah, better not tell those foreigners that they can now work more jobs with the same WP.

[overherebc]

So many, when this news 'broke' were so convinced that they could 'nip down to the labour office' get/buy a work permit and swan around Thailand working for whoever they fancied. It was never going to be like that and never will be.

As far as I see it, it will work for companies using labourers/ workers from neighbouring countries that employers can move around Thailand and can sub-contract those workers to other companies in other areas as it will make the documentation process easier.

It won't do much else especially for the likes of EU & USA expats for example.

[overherebc]

Maybe for expat workers who have a WP for a 3 day a week job it's feasible to get another 2 or 3 day job 'for a different employer.'

eg 3 days working in Rayong and 2 or 3 days in Chonburi.

No-one is going to be going freelance and you can take that to the bank.

Edited September 2, 2018 by overherebc

[kwilco]

THis is a very radical change and will make a lot of people like English teachers officially legal.

[overherebc]

17 minutes ago, kwilco said:

THis is a very radical change and will make a lot of people like English teachers officially legal.

Only if the schools get them a WP in the first place.

Your not thinking this through. An english teacher will still have to conform to the requirements for issue of the first WP. If they want to go off Campus and teach in another location at the same time who will be the employer who hires them and registers them in the second area of work?

Read the rules carefully and please stop imagining yourself as a teacher travelling Thailand flashing the blue book and sitting on the beach teaching locals.

Your initial school gets you a work permit and like 99% of schools you'll never see it. It will be secure in the school safe and the day you think you are going to work in another location your first school will hand it to you and say OK?????