Obama, Meghan McCain rebuke absent Trump in tribute to fallen senator

[IAMHERE]

Trump would just be insulted and ridiculed if he attempted to show up at the funeral; it'd turn into Saturday Night Live or the Correspondance Dinner.

[TGIR]

Another day, another round of bashing  Trump.   Congratulations, you all have managed to turn a funeral into a sordid display of disaffection for a man who seems to have an unlimited  ability to absorb more punishment than Job himself.

 

The sixty three million American citizens  who voted President Trump into office are once again forced to watch and listen to the other half of the country disparaging him at every opportunity.......you are like a pack of jackals fighting over a carcass.

 

[phantomfiddler]

I must be missing something. Wasn,t Trump asked NOT TO ATTEND ? I also do not understand how someone can become a hero by virtue of being taken prisoner.

I guess america is so short of real heroes they have to manufacture them every chance they get !

[alocacoc]

This weird funeral is all about Trump. He lives in their head. For free [emoji23]

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[canuckamuck]

3 hours ago, Thaidream said:

John McCain- an American patriot and war hero.  There is no comparison with Donald Trump- who avoided going to the military because he had a note from his doctor for- bone spurs.  John McCain- who languished 5.5 years in a North Vietnamese prison and could have gone home early but declined indicating everyone must be released.  True Grit....Devotion to  country.   And then John went back to Vietnam as a Senator and led the fight to establish relations with Vietnam

 

A great man is gone....... and Donald Trump in his final act of disrespect....played golf while John McCain was being eulogized by a grateful Nation!!!

Anybody who had a chance to skip that Vietnam war and did deserves an atta boy. An unwinnable war that was none of America's business.  2 million civilians dead. Made a lot of money for the deep state though. Sorry for those of you who had to go, I got nothing against that.

Apparently McCain voted in favor of military action every time an opportunity arose. He learned nothing from his experience.

[Grouse]

I am not an American (one should be grateful for small mercies)

 

However, I did watch McCain's memorial service. I was impressed. Really impressed.

 

The eulogies were very well written and presented by statesmen. 

 

It was a timely reminder of how the USA has come completely off the rails. I do hope that, as has happened so many times in the past, a noble person comes to the fore and guides the USA back towards its founding principles and the leadership role it has now so sadly lost.

 

Ill bet I'm not alone in drawing this conclusion

[Thaidream]

24 minutes ago, phantomfiddler said:

must be missing something. Wasn,t Trump asked NOT TO ATTEND ? I also do not understand how someone can become a hero by virtue of being taken prisoner.

I guess america is so short of real heroes they have to manufacture them every chance they get !

You are missing something- the reality of why John Mccain is a hero.

 

Fact-  John was captured by the North Vietnamese after being shot down and spent 5.5 years in a Vietnamese prison.  The Viets offered Jon a quick release because John's father a 4 star Admiral was  Pacific Forces Commander.  John refused to leave because he follows the American Prisoner of War Code of Conduct-  All  prisoners must be released- not just himself.  He suffered torture- both physical and mental; isolation; starvation and humiliation trapped in the North Vietnamese gulag.  You might not think this is enough to be called a hero- but I and the majority of the World do think it's enough.

[Jingthing]

I must be missing something. Wasn,t Trump asked NOT TO ATTEND ? I also do not understand how someone can become a hero by virtue of being taken prisoner.
I guess america is so short of real heroes they have to manufacture them every chance they get !

Read up on his life story and maybe you'll understand.

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[sirineou]

9 hours ago, canuckamuck said:

Anybody who had a chance to skip that Vietnam war and did deserves an atta boy. An unwinnable war that was none of America's business.  2 million civilians dead. Made a lot of money for the deep state though. Sorry for those of you who had to go, I got nothing against that.

Apparently McCain voted in favor of military action every time an opportunity arose. He learned nothing from his experience.

 I have a lot of respect for conscientious objectors,  It takes a lot of guts to  appear to go against your country for principle and not fight, IMO It.It is as brave as   fighting.    What I don't respect faking medical conditions (bone spurs) to get out of your responsibility .  I do agree with you on the hyperbole following his death.   His politics concerning US military actions , immigration,  and the repeal of the Affordable Care Act. does not support the speeches.

     Indeed he did not meet a military action he did not love, When he was against Reagan sending the Marines to Lebanon , it was because he thought (correctly) that not enough were send. 

     He supported Immigracion reform until he started having presidential ambitions, So he was not doing  the"right thing, he was doing the politically expedient thing   putting his   "Mavric" monocle  to rest,

       And finally ACA ,  He voted against the repeal with out replace, with his famous "Thumps down" grandstanding. Yet a few months later he effectively killed ACA without replacing it by repealing the Individual Coverage Mandate provision . While his medical condition was cared for by government subsidised insurance available to congress, I wonder how many received , and will receive inadequate care because they could not afford the high health insurance rates his vote has caused.  

8 hours ago, Thaidream said:

You are missing something- the reality of why John Mccain is a hero.

 

Fact-  John was captured by the North Vietnamese after being shot down and spent 5.5 years in a Vietnamese prison.  The Viets offered Jon a quick release because John's father a 4 star Admiral was  Pacific Forces Commander.  John refused to leave because he follows the American Prisoner of War Code of Conduct-  All  prisoners must be released- not just himself.  He suffered torture- both physical and mental; isolation; starvation and humiliation trapped in the North Vietnamese gulag.  You might not think this is enough to be called a hero- but I and the majority of the World do think it's enough.

I dont understand why people still ask the question you asked,It does not take tremendous intelect to recognise  Trump's premise was  wrong.    No one called McCain a hero for being a prisoner. They called him a hero for the way he conducted himself while being one.

Trump supporters have difficulty grasping the simplest concepts.But then again they have a problem with many other simple concepts, like,  If he lies all the time, how do you know he is telling the truth now? If he was willing to screw the mother of his children for personal gain, why do you think he will not screw you?   

[Slip]

2 hours ago, TGIR said:

Another day, another round of bashing  Trump.   Congratulations, you all have managed to turn a funeral into a sordid display of disaffection for a man who seems to have an unlimited  ability to absorb more punishment than Job himself.

 

The sixty three million American citizens  who voted President Trump into office are once again forced to watch and listen to the other half of the country disparaging him at every opportunity.......you are like a pack of jackals fighting over a carcass.

 

Slightly less than half I'm afraid.  46%.  It is high time the US of A fixed the racist voting system that is in place.

[Nyezhov]

John McCain was a decent American who served his country.

 

Using a funeral for political feuds is disgusting. The hypocrisy of the left and their media allies is apparent.

 

MAGA. Now watch the ad hominems.

[Tug]

Fair winds and following seas mariner well done we see the love and respect McCann received will trump get the same?I strongly doubt it more like celebritaions and relief.well done sir a life well lived well done!

[bristolboy]

39 minutes ago, Nyezhov said:

John McCain was a decent American who served his country.

 

Using a funeral for political feuds is disgusting. The hypocrisy of the left and their media allies is apparent.

 

MAGA. Now watch the ad hominems.

How is the media reporting on the funeral hypocritical?

[bristolboy]

1 minute ago, Nyezhov said:

As Manic says:

 

"If it were not for his antipathy to Trump he would just be another,  soon forgotten, right wing mediocrity "

 

The media praising him like the second coming was far less charitable when he was running for President. While I would hesitate to call him a "mediocrity" in general, his main value to the Swamp was that he enjoyed playing in it with the rest of the bozos.

The media has been praising Trump as a maverick for virtually all of his political career. Whether he deserved that moniker is another question. But as for "hypocrisy", not so.

[bristolboy]

28 minutes ago, The manic said:

He facilitated the growth of the lunatic alt right by choosing The Tea Party , Sarah Palin, as presidential running mate. If it were not for his antipathy to Trump he would just be another,  soon forgotten, right wing mediocrity 

So you're saying he's at least partially to blame for Trump?

[billd766]

5 hours ago, myfriendu said:

I have to agree with all facts you mentioned about this wicked man,  trump would not have gone even if invited he has too much honor and could never pay respects to a guy with such low morals.

Trump is the greatest president ever, you ask him he will tell you himself.     

 

Trump and honour is an oxymoron with a heavy accent on the moron.

3 hours ago, seajae said:

wrong post sorry

 

[Jingthing]

Understanding the reason and the need for McCain's resistance funeral. 

McCain made history in life and also in death.

 

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The McCain funeral offered a promise of deliverance at a dark moment in American history

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When dictators took over countries such as Germany, Italy, Russia, Argentina and Venezuela, the body politic had usually already been weakened by war, depression or chronic misrule – and often all three. Today, the United States faces a threat from a would-be despot of its own: a president who incessantly undermines his own Justice Department, calls for his political opponents to be investigated and locked up, denounces the press as the “enemy of the people,” and lies incessantly while telling his followers that they must trust whatever he now says over what the media report or even over what he himself was previously recorded as saying on video.

 

 

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/global-opinions/wp/2018/09/02/the-mccain-funeral-offered-a-promise-of-deliverance-at-a-dark-moment-in-american-history/

 

 

[Scott]

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[DoctorG]

17 hours ago, Redline said:

They all said they disagreed with him, but he was a patriot and willing to compromise.  Can you comprehend English?

Nothing in my post negates comprehension. It is just fact. You might be the one with comprehension issues.

[bristolboy]

19 hours ago, Gudge said:

Why are all you calling Trump down for not going to the funeral. Mc Cain requested that he did not attend his funeral and Trump was reminded of that request so did not attend.

I looked at every post previous to yours. Not one of them condemned Trump for not attending.

[Misty]

"John cared about the institutions of self-government, our Constitution, our Bill of Rights, rule of law, separation of powers, even the arcane rules and

procedures of the Senate. He knew that in a nation as big and boisterous and diverse as ours, those institutions, those rules, those norms are what bind us together. They give shape and order to our common life, even when we disagree. Especially when we disagree."  --  Former President Barack Obama, who confessed to being initially surprised at being asked to speak.

[Nyezhov]

1 hour ago, bristolboy said:

Given the results in by-elections and primaries, it doesn't seem likely that there are still 63 million Americans who would be offended by condemnations of Trump.

By elections (which isnt an American thing, you must mean special elections) and primaries and Congressional elections dont count. See you in 2020 with a booming economy

[Scott]

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[bristolboy]

30 minutes ago, Nyezhov said:

By elections (which isnt an American thing, you must mean special elections) and primaries and Congressional elections dont count. See you in 2020 with a booming economy

But mid-term elections are an American thing. See you in November.

And I do have to hand it to Trump. Even though the economy is doing well, at least for the very rich although for most workers not so much,  he still manages to be unpopular. How does he do it?

[Jingthing]

1 hour ago, bristolboy said:

But mid-term elections are an American thing. See you in November.

And I do have to hand it to Trump. Even though the economy is doing well, at least for the very rich although for most workers not so much,  he still manages to be unpopular. How does he do it?

Because he doesn't pass the SMELL TEST with the majority of Americans and he NEVER will. He didn't in 2016 either but squeezed on an unlikely narrow victory based on the electoral college. 

[Nyezhov]

1 hour ago, bristolboy said:

But mid-term elections are an American thing. See you in November.

And I do have to hand it to Trump. Even though the economy is doing well, at least for the very rich although for most workers not so much,  he still manages to be unpopular. How does he do it?

Mid terms mean nothing, unless the party out of power fails to flip...then it means something...

I hand it to Mr. Combover too. Even though the media screeches imprecations about him daily, he manages to still keep his support. How does he do it?

 

 

 

[Grouse]

44 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Because he doesn't pass the SMELL TEST with the majority of Americans and he NEVER will. He didn't in 2016 either but squeezed on an unlikely narrow victory based on the electoral college. 

I do like a bit of snobbery! ?

[riclag]

On 9/1/2018 at 9:05 PM, canuckamuck said:

C'mon, get the guy in the ground already. What a circus.

 You hit the hammer on to the nail!You can bet the bank on PT is thinking the same ! He has a problem with holding back,I can only imagine.

Edited September 3, 2018 by riclag

[metisdead]

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[AlexRich]

13 hours ago, Misty said:

"John cared about the institutions of self-government, our Constitution, our Bill of Rights, rule of law, separation of powers, even the arcane rules and

 

procedures of the Senate. He knew that in a nation as big and boisterous and diverse as ours, those institutions, those rules, those norms are what bind us together. They give shape and order to our common life, even when we disagree. Especially when we disagree."  --  Former President Barack Obama, who confessed to being initially surprised at being asked to speak.

 

When McCain was up against Obama he attended a campaign rally where the mike was handed out to the audience for questions. One lady began by stating that Obama was a Muslim ... McCain took the mike off her and explained that he was not a Muslim and was also a decent man ... that tells you much about McCain’s decency and values. I always thought McCain was a little too militaristic but I never doubted his integrity. Obama was given the opportunity to repay the compliment.