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Tolerance under stress as ‘loud’ mosque prayers draw complaints


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9 hours ago, webfact said:

People in the area demonstrate the same tolerance whenever someone hosts a big party with loud music, he said.

he actually  has  a  good point here so in this  aspect they should be banned  too.

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1 hour ago, simple1 said:

The OP clearly states the mosque is in compliance with noise pollution parameters

Which is hogwash. Noise is noise and here in Thailand noise carries. It needs not to be rated by an absurd decibel system. How a bout if you have cricket outside your room at night? Muslims need to shut their noise hole up. Quiet is the only thing sacred. 

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6 minutes ago, holy cow cm said:

Which is hogwash. Noise is noise and here in Thailand noise carries. It needs not to be rated by an absurd decibel system. How a bout if you have cricket outside your room at night? Muslims need to shut their noise hole up. Quiet is the only thing sacred. 

You are contravening the Thai Constitution, do you see yourself as above your host country laws? However, logically you must include Buddhist activities, good luck with posting a similar comment online with Pantip whoever, don't think you would be staying much longer in Thailand.

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Firstly. prayer calls are 5 times a day. Secondly, before electricity and speakers, a "caller" would mount the minerat and in his best voice, announce 'call to prayers' thus the call was only heard by the nearby Moslem residents. Unlike Obama, I do not tear up at the sound of 'call to prayers' even though I'm surrounded by my Muslem family.

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11 minutes ago, simple1 said:

You are contravening the Thai Constitution, do you see yourself as above your host country laws? However, logically you must include Buddhist activities, good luck with posting a similar comment online with Pantip whoever, don't think you would be staying much longer in Thailand.

This is where it is heading to on modern Thailand. So, does it look like the old decibel version of Thai law will stay in existence?  Noise pollution is aggravation and comes in many forms just not religious. and yes, I oppose noise pollution adamantly. 

 

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3 minutes ago, holy cow cm said:

This is where it is heading to on modern Thailand. So, does it look like the old decibel version of Thai law will stay in existence?  Noise pollution is aggravation and comes in many forms just not religious. and yes, I oppose noise pollution adamantly. 

You personally will not make one iota of difference, especially with your insulting comments towards religion in Thai society. Recommend you do some research concerning your rights in Thailand - best of luck.

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1 hour ago, simple1 said:

Don't read Thai. However, 10 decibels is silence, office space should be around 60 decibels, average city street traffic noise approx 80 decibels, you cannot be correct.

 

https://www.hearnet.com/at_risk/risk_trivia.shtml

 

Can you see the link below about the environmental noise regulations in Thailand? Thank you.

 

https://soundgoodproject.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/in09_102_byinternoise2009cdrom.pdf

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21 minutes ago, gunderhill said:

So why did you first mention it?

I referred to the Thai Constitution, the last I recall was authorised in 2017, but I understand not published. There has been a draft translation into English, don't know if one can legally link to the translation by way of a Thai domiciled forum. You can research earlier versions of the Constitution which granted full religious freedom which is reflected in TV rules - leave it at that.

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12 minutes ago, Menhir said:

 

Can you see the link below about the environmental noise regulations in Thailand? Thank you.

 

https://soundgoodproject.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/in09_102_byinternoise2009cdrom.pdf

Where does it state 10dB is the recommended max street noise levels in cities? The OP claims mosques are now limited to no more than 80dB to which the the OP claims they now comply. Enough of the to and fro...

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Just now, simple1 said:

Where does it state 10dB is the requirement and recommended max street noise levels in cities? The OP claims mosques are now limited to no more than 80dB to which the the OP claims they now comply. Enough of the to and fro...

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11 minutes ago, Menhir said:

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OK, one last response. I do believe you have misunderstood. Approx 40dB is lowest level urban sound level, average 10dB is impossible in a city street environment such as BKK. Alternatively if your interpretation is correct whoever wrote the standard is a fool.

 

10dB is the sound of breathing (barely audible)...

 

http://www.industrialnoisecontrol.com/comparative-noise-examples.htm

 

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6 hours ago, farang62 said:

There is a Sophisticated Application for their phone that will remind them anywhere there are in the world, even points to Mecca from their current location.

But when muslims living in Scandinavia or Eastern Europe try to pray towards Mecca, they are in fact facing Israel. So their prayers bless only Israel and get blocked, can't pass through.

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10 hours ago, webfact said:

“But every time the measurements are made, the mosque is found to have complied with noise standards and the volume has never exceeded 80 decibels,” Sombat said. 

Maybe someone should point out to him that 80Db is the maximum level allowed, not the required level.  They'd still be easily heard at 40Db but, unfortunately, those living 5kms away might miss the announcements.

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There is a very simple way to resolve this, simply apply the same rules as Saudi does and ban all other religions with the exception of your own. This might also resolve some of the problems in the south forcing trouble makers to move further south. Win win. 

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3 hours ago, bluesofa said:

I doubt if they would ever notice, what with their never ending high-volume chatter.

 

Jakarta? Their culture! How can you complain about them not accepting our culture when they are in London or New York and you won't accept theirs in their own bloody country. Christ is that so difficult to understand????

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Another proof that Islam is not prepared to evolve. Most of the rules and customs were written about 600-700 years after Christ, in a book called the Koran. Apart from the fact that there are a lot of useful tips, there are also rules that might have been useful at that time, but not anymore today. The 500 years following the writing of the Qur'an were a time of enlightenment (the Islamic gold period), but after that a decay occurred and, just as in the Christian world, splits of Islam arose. Without central administration, own theories were developed and views were developed. We all know the result. The followers of Mohammed are now even killing each other and renewal is not possible. Great belief.

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