Tolerance under stress as ‘loud’ mosque prayers draw complaints

[heybuz]

52 minutes ago, terminatorchiangmai said:

They know that Muslims are being reminded of prayer times,”

 

If they are so religious why do they need to get reminded about praying times ?

It's not a reminder it's a threat

[AhFarangJa]

10 minutes ago, DPKANKAN said:

But that was in Neanderthal times before clocks and smart phones amongst other things were invented. They lived in communities miles from their wailing towers!! Move with the times!!

You are correct except that Islam is still in the 1400's. 

[Menhir]

4 hours ago, Thian said:

I think it's time for a new law where no religion can make much noise....in BKK people work/sleep 24hrs and it's important that they rest well.

It seems there is a law. EPEQA B.E 2535, Notification of the National environmental Board No. 29 on Annoyance Noise Level Standard: From 10pm to 6 am the noise level shouldn't be more than 10 decibel.

 

[p414]

The call to prayer was introduced when nobody knew the exact time..Now everybody has a watch or similar timepiece..The call to prayer [particularly in England] is merely to inform non believers 'WE ARE HERE'

[blazes]

Western civilization advanced quickly (ok, about 500 years) when the monks were told they were personae non gratae.

 

Any nation that is dominated by monks or imams is doomed to remain in the Dark Ages, roughly 500 AD to about 1200 AD.

 

 

[hansnl]

1 hour ago, Darkside Gray said:

Seems like Muslim Bashing to me, the mosques and whats were there long before the condos.

Or the muslims expressing their imagined superiority over the infidels, a treat shown all over the world.

[ReMarKable]

1 hour ago, Andyfez said:

"reminding followers of prayer time"...

Why can't they adjust to the times and send an SMS?

Actually I live about a kilometer away, but can hear the man chanting over the loudspeakers every few hours, like a tuneless karaoke bar. Not a nuisance at this distance, but very aware there's a mosque somewhere around.

Certainly I feel sorry for the majority non-muslim population who live any closer.

Buddhist temples are just as loud when they have a temple fair.  The one near my home cranks the music incredibly loud and can be clearly heard despite living more than 1 kilometer away.  Not sure how people at the fairs stand the noise.  The local district office threw some parties a few months back and it was also very loud.  Not sure why a district office would throw a party after hours or who benefited from the parties.

[Ctkong]

4 hours ago, Thian said:

I think it's time for a new law where no religion can make much noise....in BKK people work/sleep 24hrs and it's important that they rest well.

People should be mindful of where they stay... eg. near airport, train station , bus station, market, nightlife area where sound level would be much higher than normal.. I have a condo near RCA .bought it when visiting in daytime.. all quiet but come nighttime , the bass from the clubs would rattle walls. .. until early mornInv. Worse during weekends and promotions. All I did was triple glazed my windows and doors which reduce the sound a lot though the bass still got thru but not as much as before. Tolerable...  

[phantomfiddler]

I rented an apartment (unknowingly with a mosque nearby) and you could not even hear your own television with all the windows closed. I soon moved out, but unimaginable that these places are allowed to blast out such an incredible volume of sound while honest people are trying to sleep. But I guess it is a "religion" of submission ???? Should all be turned off !!

[bluesofa]

1 minute ago, phantomfiddler said:

I rented an apartment (unknowingly with a mosque nearby) and you could not even hear your own television with all the windows closed. I soon moved out, but unimaginable that these places are allowed to blast out such an incredible volume of sound while honest people are trying to sleep. But I guess it is a "religion" of submission ???? Should all be turned off !!

Well it turns me off.

 

[Ctkong]

1 hour ago, NE1 said:

Why do they need reminding every day ?

Surely there memory function works.

It is like the morning call when you are on a tour..... making sure people don’t overslept.

[Ctkong]

1 hour ago, Andyfez said:

"reminding followers of prayer time"...

Why can't they adjust to the times and send an SMS?

Actually I live about a kilometer away, but can hear the man chanting over the loudspeakers every few hours, like a tuneless karaoke bar. Not a nuisance at this distance, but very aware there's a mosque somewhere around.

Certainly I feel sorry for the majority non-muslim population who live any closer.

Traditions die hard....... unfortunately. Being like that since somebody invented the loudspeaker. 

[Ctkong]

1 hour ago, Emster23 said:

I lived in Phra Kanong, on floor level with speakers from Mosque maybe 100-200 yds away. I got used to it. One time they have very early morning ceremony for funeral... told wife to send the dogs (a joke) if I wasn't back in 10 minutes: I was going to ask them to turn it down. They did, and were not at all aggressive about it & apologized.

If they want to keep up with their tradition of calling to prayer, how about doing it the traditional way?

Get up in the minaret and use voice only, no amplification.

Now they fitted the loudspeakers on the minarets.

[Tradewind777]

Duck the mosque, get an App. There was a time when there were no loudspeakers. When the “Tannoy” came in the muslims embraced them. Now in the age of smartphones get with the project and phase out noise polluting speaker that no one other than muslims are pleased to hear.

 

I sometimes think that the call to prayer racket is political. I’m sure in many situations, I’m not far wrong.

[bluesofa]

1 hour ago, NE1 said:

Why do they need reminding every day ?

Surely there memory function works.

I think their memory is limited to six hours. They need an upgrade to access the 17th century first.

 

[yasbkk]

4 hours ago, Thian said:

I think it's time for a new law where no religion can make much noise....in BKK people work/sleep 24hrs and it's important that they rest well.

Hi, while respecting your opinion, I would like to point out that these prayers for calls and the ringing of the bells in the morning for the Way, are nothing but good for the benefit of the people: good for health and for work and start of the day early. People are working throughout the day, but anyone can adjust their sleep times to cope even those who finish work early morning they go to sleep after Dawn. 

 

I am sure that you too would be early riser if you were working.

 

Plus the life in the city's about living in community, where no one has complete privacy of noise. 

you want that life, then one has to move to country side,

 

[unamazedloso]

Its a sad fact that religious people tend to have lower IQs therefore perhaps they arent smart enought to set alarms, read the time and alike.

Perhaps someone needs to show the noise pollution by honking  horn and aeeing if anyone pays attention. I have had to beep to avoid an accident near a mosque in rawai many years ago and it was pointless. Therefore it's actually a little dangerous.

[fvw53]

Before modern technology the calls for praying were done by a human being but now they are done by amplifiers and loudspeakers and that makes a big difference.

Edited October 8, 2018 by fvw53
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[car720]

1 hour ago, Darkside Gray said:

Seems like Muslim Bashing to me, the mosques and whats were there long before the condos.

Irrelevant.  As so many other posters have said it is attention seeking din.

Regardless of whether it is muslim's calling the faithful or catholic bells calling the faithful or the village headman with his incessant loudspeakers it is all attention seeking din.  Consider that small minded people are drawn to loud noises rather than serenity and tranquillity.

[AUSSIE BOB]

I live near two in Patong and for the best part of my time here I have grown to accept them but lately these two mosques appear to be competing against each other and the volume has noticeably increased. Perhaps they have adjusted the direction of the loud speakers, I don't know. Soft/low volume is sometimes soothing but when they have a new comer to the task and they cannot chant/sing/whatever, it can be down right annoying. I would be a happier resident if I was not woken every morning at 5am. 

[asiaworld]

Great topic, finally somebody did complained. Btw can anyone proficient in Thai write here where to complain about those noises?! Local police station, or maybe there’s a phone hotline . In Suan Luang area these pests defenitely have loudspeakers exceeding all possible limits ! 

 I’ve stayed in 3 different places, all had loudspeakers in the vicinity, funny never had this problem in Dubai Malaysia and a few other actually Muslim countries I’ve lived in

[Moti24]

2 hours ago, NE1 said:

Why do they need reminding every day ?

Surely there memory function works.

Compulsory attendance!  When they hear the bell, the non-conformists have time to hide.

[neeray]

1 minute ago, asiaworld said:

Great topic, finally somebody did complained. Btw can anyone proficient in Thai write here where to complain about those noises?! Local police station, or maybe there’s a phone hotline . In Suan Luang area these pests defenitely have loudspeakers exceeding all possible limits ! 

 I’ve stayed in 3 different places, all had loudspeakers in the vicinity, funny never had this problem in Dubai Malaysia and a few other actually Muslim countries I’ve lived in

On my first trip to Indonesia, and in bad need of sleep after 30 hours of travel, I was awoken very early the first morning to this extremely loud noise. My 4 star hotel was right next door to a mosque.

Agreed, this is a topic that needs "a little noise".

[bluesofa]

1 minute ago, Moti24 said:

Compulsory attendance!  When they hear the bell, the non-conformists have time to hide.

What a great marketing opportunity: Muslim earplugs.

 

[ZAKY]

Absolute nonsense to make people beleive that religion work in pair with noise! The mosque is older than at times loud speaker was invented so since the time of mahomet, how was people called for prayer? Those who follow their religion if they are really faithful should know at what time they will have to pray without disturbing others who are not of same religion! In India recently the cabinet has decided to ban all loud speakers use on all religious sites and this is a good signal which will teach people to respect and create harmony among those who does not follow the same religion. 

[HappyinNE]

I am not religious and do not want to interfere in their long held beliefs.  I do have one comment and that is for them to go back to their roots and cease using electronic means to transmit their prayers or call to prayers.  I don't believe that when they started that they were using recordings or speakers.  By the way the call to prayer can be beautiful when not heard through loud speakers.  This not using modern means to transmit their beliefs should also apply to the Buddhists.

[bert bloggs]

2 hours ago, Darkside Gray said:

Seems like Muslim Bashing to me, the mosques and whats were there long before the condos.

Yes shame that , why do they have to have loudspeakers cant stand the wailing from them.

[Lupatria]

2 hours ago, Esso49 said:

I think it is about time that all religions are told to be quiet at all times everywhere.  Let the world progress in the 21st century based on scientific fact, not 2000 to 3000 year old mumbo jumbo,  primarily originated and perpetuated to control the masses and a means of fraudulently obtaining vast sums of money.

They know, and won’t forget the exact time and date when to pick up their salary but have to be reminded 5 times a day to do their prayers? Maybe this acoustic theater is more about to make the rest of the population aware of their presence. On the other hand, they would be perfect to maintain the tsunami warning systems.

 

[newnative]

  Maybe they needed these loud calls to prayer long ago when most poor people didn't have watches but now there is no need for this with every cell phone telling time.  Should be outlawed. 

[Thian]

2 hours ago, Emster23 said:

If they want to keep up with their tradition of calling to prayer, how about doing it the traditional way?

How about doing it the 2018 way? They can sing their songs and show it on LINE to all their followers? No need for outdoor speakers.