"Easy Ride" for pensioners in Thailand now over, says Pattaya Radio

[HOAX]

I’m using annual tax papers to get the necessary stamp at the Norwegian Embassy, but what I don’t get is if proof of income by the embassy isn’t good enough, how is a Thai bank account suppose to prove an income?


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[Spidey]

Just now, HOAX said:

I’m using annual tax papers to get the necessary stamp at the Norwegian Embassy, but what I don’t get is if proof of income by the embassy isn’t good enough, how is a Thai bank account suppose to prove an income?


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In practice it's not possible. Your annual tax return is proof positive of your income. Thai bank accounts can easily be manipulated. Which is why it will never happen.

[zydeco]

4 hours ago, pegman said:

The problem is some countries, such like yours, have not required applicants for income verification letters provide true proof of income. This has led to unpaid liabilies for Thai businesses especially hospitals. Now the blowback wîll likely affect passport holders of countries that played by the rules too.

Oh, I see. This is all America's fault your embassy has stopped issuing you income verification letters.

[wgdanson]

1 hour ago, Expattaff1308 said:

I had to show my pension letters to get the Ïncome Letter"from the Embassy. Can you honestly believe the DWP and Civil Service Pensions are going to falsify documents to enable me to meet the financial requirements of the Thai Immigration??

It is not only Pension income which the Consulate is being required to verify. What about investment income, rental income, bank interest. All come under INCOME.

[Jingthing]

Just now, wgdanson said:

It is not only Pension income which the Consulate is being required to verify. What about investment income, rental income, bank interest. All come under INCOME.

That is very true, and that makes things complicated, sometimes very complicated.

Pensions on the other hand are payments for life and if they had a sensible system here pension income could be verified once and that proof good for life.

This is why the majority of nations that offer retirement programs based on income accept PENSIONS ONLY for retirement status (demanding proof ONCE) and sometimes have a totally separate visa class for people using other kinds of income (and usually having higher requirements than pensions as younger people are included). 

 

[cleverman]

2 hours ago, wgdanson said:

THE EQUIVALENT of Bht 800k, it does not have to be in BAHT. Please refrain from the other comments.

Your not a mod,you don't tell me what to do. 

[HOAX]

In practice it's not possible. Your annual tax return is proof positive of your income. Thai bank accounts can easily be manipulated. Which is why it will never happen.

Thanks. Really hope it is. Like how on earth could I prove it better than that. Actually its the only way to prove your income (pension) at the Norwegian Embassy that I know of, hence why I got so confused, never knew people did it any other way.

So what is this letter thing the Brits are showing as «proof»?


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[wgdanson]

4 minutes ago, cleverman said:

Your not a mod,you don't tell me what to do. 

So sorry for being silly. And a rocker, not a mod.

Edited October 11, 2018 by wgdanson

[wgdanson]

8 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

That is very true, and that makes things complicated, sometimes very complicated.

Pensions on the other hand are payments for life and if they had a sensible system here pension income could be verified once and that proof good for life.

This is why the majority of nations that offer retirement programs based on income accept PENSIONS ONLY for retirement status (demanding proof ONCE) and sometimes have a totally separate visa class for people using other kinds of income (and usually having higher requirements than pensions as younger people are included). 

 

Sadly, the max state pension in UK is currently £125.95, which equates to about Bht 23,500 a month. I guess some guys have to 'manipulate' the figures sometimes.

[cleverman]

Just now, wgdanson said:

So sorry for being silly. And a rocker, not a mod.

Don't talk to me.

[Jingthing]

5 minutes ago, wgdanson said:

Sadly, the max state pension in UK is currently £125.95, which equates to about Bht 23,500 a month. I guess some guys have to 'manipulate' the figures sometimes.

Well currently there is the combination method available to them.

U.S. nationals getting social security receive an average of about 40K baht.

It's hardly a British only issue.

[cleverman]

Just now, Jingthing said:

That is very true, and that makes things complicated, sometimes very complicated.

Pensions on the other hand are payments for life and if they had a sensible system here pension income could be verified once and that proof good for life.

This is why the majority of nations that offer retirement programs based on income accept PENSIONS ONLY for retirement status (demanding proof ONCE) and sometimes have a totally separate visa class for people using other kinds of income (and usually having higher requirements than pensions as younger people are included). 

 

What rubbish. Dozens of different types of pensions, not all for life. 

[petermik]

7 hours ago, wgdanson said:

Sadly, the max state pension in UK is currently £125.95, which equates to about Bht 23,500 a month. I guess some guys have to 'manipulate' the figures sometimes.

not strictly true.....the basic pension is,but what about graduated payments on top....

[wgdanson]

1 minute ago, petermik said:

not strictly true.....the basic pension is,but what about graduated payments on top....

Ex-musicians do not get graduated pensions !  Good job I had a big hit record back in the 80s !

[Jingthing]

Just now, cleverman said:

What rubbish. Dozens of different types of pensions, not all for life. 

Call names if you like. Government pensions are generally for life. Private pensions may be for life but are more likely to crap out over time. Perhaps you are calling things pensions that aren't pensions. I'm just saying I have looked at retirement programs of many nations and most of them treat government pensions in a special, presumed permanent way. Thailand lumps it all together. That's fine in theory but in practice now we are seeing there are complications. Of course these complications have been there all along but for some reason there's noise about that NOW.

Cheers.

[wgdanson]

3 minutes ago, cleverman said:

What rubbish. Dozens of different types of pensions, not all for life. 

Yes, very clever...man! You are correct

[roo860]

Ex-musicians do not get graduated pensions !  Good job I had a big hit record back in the 80s !

Which was?

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[cleverman]

Just now, Jingthing said:

Call names if you like. Government pensions are generally for life. Private pensions may be for life but are more likely to crap out over time. Perhaps you are calling things pensions that aren't pensions. I'm just saying I have looked at retirement programs of many nations and most of them treat government pensions in a special, presumed permanent way. Thailand lumps it all together. That's fine in theory but in practice now we are seeing there are complications. Of course these complications have been there all along but for some reason there's noise about that NOW.

Cheers.

Talk about back peddling.

[Jingthing]

3 minutes ago, cleverman said:

Talk about back peddling.

I have no idea what you're talking about. 

[overherebc]

19 minutes ago, cleverman said:

What rubbish. Dozens of different types of pensions, not all for life. 

UK government pensions are for life.

Private pensions 'can' also be.

Company pensions most likely have an end date.

So no-one is posting rubbish.

Edited October 11, 2018 by overherebc

[overherebc]

19 minutes ago, roo860 said:

 

Which was?

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Think it came out at the same time as the expat in Thailand's book,  Gullibles Travels.

[HAKAPALITA]

The Brits im with have decided that its used by those who dont have enough to live here easily , and dont care, and its my Round..[emoji481][emoji481]????


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[overherebc]

8 minutes ago, HAKAPALITA said:

The Brits im with have decided that its used by those who dont have enough to live here easily , and dont care, and its my Round..????


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 I don't know the will it, won't it answer.

So the question is,

Will 'no tips' to Imm' include part of the agents fee for 'chancy' extensions when no 800,000 or 65,000 a month exists?

[Spidey]

1 hour ago, HOAX said:

Thanks. Really hope it is. Like how on earth could I prove it better than that. Actually its the only way to prove your income (pension) at the Norwegian Embassy that I know of, hence why I got so confused, never knew people did it any other way.

So what is this letter thing the Brits are showing as «proof»?


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I send my annual tax return, 3 months of bank staements and a payslip to the British Embassy and they return a letter saying that I have given proof of income of xxx amount in £ sterling.

[HOAX]

I send my annual tax return, 3 months of bank staements and a payslip to the British Embassy and they return a letter saying that I have given proof of income of xxx amount in £ sterling.

Ok so even more proof, and its even gross income. So I’m guessing you’ll be fine.


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[usacb500biker]

This is Big Joke  (Joke is a Thai morning Meal) in Action its not blowing  over in a Week. If immigration refuse"s Embassy letter YOU no longer have a Visa....What then ???  you think its going to be a Mexican Stand off.. Expats LOSE...

[rott]

48 minutes ago, usacb500biker said:

This is Big Joke  (Joke is a Thai morning Meal) in Action its not blowing  over in a Week. If immigration refuse"s Embassy letter YOU no longer have a Visa....What then ???  you think its going to be a Mexican Stand off.. Expats LOSE...

The embassy letter is nowt to do with big joke.

Thanks for telling us that joke is a morning meal.

But people on here (except extreme newbies and know-nothings) already knew these things.

[HAKAPALITA]

JOKE is also a name used by Mama Cup for instant porridge. 

[Teee]

3 hours ago, rott said:

The embassy letter is nowt to do with big joke.

Thanks for telling us that joke is a morning meal.

But people on here (except extreme newbies and know-nothings) already knew these things.

Do you know for certain its nothing to do with Big Joke? Do you know him and he told you? 

????

[PAWNEESE]

On 10/9/2018 at 1:57 PM, mercman24 said:

its not a case of having the money, its a case of now having 20,000 english pounds in a Thai bank for 3 months, and we hear every week of skimmers, using cloned cards to nick money from unsuspecting people with the banks taking no responsibility for the losses. and everyone having to show 800,00 baht in the bank i dont trust a Thai bank as far as i can spit

Just put it in an account that has no ATM card affiliated to it. If you got an ATM facility account .. visit bank .. get a second account and top up ATM account from it as you go. I think you can get an internet account and move funds. No risk of skimmers taking big bucks if you keep small bucks in it. Thats what I do ...