Esso49 Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 8 hours ago, JimmyTheMook said: A medical degree in Thailand is not recognized in countries like Taiwan i.e. they wont employ them. Route learning is the norm so critical thinking and diagnosing what may be wrong with you is a crap shoot. And yes plenty of rich Hi-So snots had their parents money and influence get them medical degrees - when in no other sane world such antics would happen. That said many of the specialists receive Western training and return and are able to perform surgeries like placing stents and the such - route learning applies here. My personal experience with many endocrinologists and nephrologists all the way to the what many consider the top hospitals like Bumrungrad was a joke and waste of money - so much so that when all the tests results were shown to doctors in USA, they demanded to be redone as they had 0 confidence in the competency of those who administered and wrote the reports. Tell me was it a Thai doctor or a US doctor that apparently diagnosed that massive chip on your shoulder ????? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcusarelus Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 1 hour ago, Neeranam said: So true. Thai doctors are not good. Once I went to see the top psychiatrist at a university hospital to ask if he are interested in starting an AA meeting. He asked me how long I had been sober and told me I could drink again if I controlled it. I saw another one in Rama 4 hospital with an alcoholic friend. He gave my friend diazepam. When I told the head doctor that it was addictive and not given to alkies in the UK for longer than 2 weeks, he said it want addictive, or only as little. I was treated for the same emergency problem at a Regionally Ranked Hospital, #10 in the State of Florida and by a Thai hospital part of the Bangkok Dusit Medical Services group. The Thai hospital was cleaner, more efficient, better service, better result, better food and less expensive. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 44 minutes ago, NCC1701A said: I said rich people, not from rich countries. so you have all the money in the world and i am mean money is a complete and total non issue and you have a serious health problem and you go to a bad hospital TO SAVE MONEY? How do you know they are rich by looking at them? Is it their dress? I assumed you were talking about the many middle eastern patients. They all come here to save money, as the hospitals in their countries are very expensive, and much better than Bamringrad. Maybe the super rich from Cambodia, Laos, and other developing countries come here but how do you know by looking at them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcusarelus Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 5 minutes ago, Neeranam said: How do you know they are rich by looking at them? Is it their dress? I assumed you were talking about the many middle eastern patients. They all come here to save money, as the hospitals in their countries are very expensive, and much better than Bamringrad. Maybe the super rich from Cambodia, Laos, and other developing countries come here but how do you know by looking at them? If the director of the hospital brings them a cup of green tea while they are waiting to see the doctor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 1 minute ago, marcusarelus said: If the director of the hospital brings them a cup of green tea while they are waiting to see the doctor. What country were they from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcusarelus Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 1 minute ago, Neeranam said: What country were they from? Once South East Asia and once a middle eastern country but not Saudi. You can tell by the different head scarf. Yemen I think it was. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyTheMook Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 4 minutes ago, Neeranam said: What country were they from? Bumrungrad is full of Arabs who they cater to very well and bill accordingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 3 hours ago, colinneil said: Totally disagree with you about doctors in government hospitals. Serious accident..... 4TH/5TH VERTEBRAE shattered, broken femur, hip, pelvis, punctured lung, torn diaphram, plus several deep cuts. Taken to government hospital in Khonkaen, in a coma, on life support, put back together by very skilful surgeons, 4 titanium rods 40 screws holding me together, 6 operations, that was 5 years ago still going strong. No doctor/ surgeon anywhere in the world could have done better. I'm sorry but you just can't say that. If your accident had occurred in the UK, you might have had a totally different outcome. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinneil Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Spidey said: I'm sorry but you just can't say that. If your accident had occurred in the UK, you might have had a totally different outcome. Please explain how? If my accident had happened anywhere in the world, the outcome would have been the same. Shattered vertebrae nobody can fix. Few years ago my eldest son broke his arm, went to the local hospital, arm put in plaster. He kept complaining it hurts, it hurts, took him back to hospital. They had to reset the break, as first time not done properly. Edited October 27, 2018 by colinneil 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esso49 Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 5 minutes ago, Spidey said: I'm sorry but you just can't say that. If your accident had occurred in the UK, you might have had a totally different outcome. What I thought he meant is that he got the best treatment possible, no different from best hospitals and doctors elsewhere. Nothing wrong in saying that and very complimentary to the Thai system. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 Just now, Esso49 said: What I thought he meant is that he got the best treatment possible, no different from best hospitals and doctors elsewhere. Nothing wrong in saying that and very complimentary to the Thai system. But not verifiable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esso49 Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 1 minute ago, Spidey said: But not verifiable. You don't have to verify a compliment. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camble Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 I required an emergency gastrectomy at Bangkok Hospital Medical Center when my stomach was hemmoraging. I believe my surgeon, educated in Thailand, was extremely competent because I’ve only had to give up the buffet, and their nurses were great too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcusarelus Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Spidey said: But not verifiable. You wrote, "Doctors in government hospitals are extremely incompetent" How can you verify that? Thailand has 50,000 doctors and graduates 3000 new doctors per year. How many have you checked? Edited October 27, 2018 by marcusarelus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 Just now, Esso49 said: You don't have to verify a compliment. A friend of mine, professional motorcycle racer, crashed his bike at 150mph, just over a year ago. Had very similar injuries to Colin. Couldn't race for a year but recently won the Senior Classic TT in the I-O-M. Hopes to compete in next years TT and probably will win at least one race as he has done 24 times before. Doesn't use a wheelchair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 Just now, marcusarelus said: You wrote, "Doctors in government hospitals are extremely incompetent" How can you verify that? Thailand has 50,000 doctors and graduates 3000 new doctors per year. How many have you checked? How can you say that it's not true? Have you checked most of them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinneil Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 1 minute ago, Spidey said: A friend of mine, professional motorcycle racer, crashed his bike at 150mph, just over a year ago. Had very similar injuries to Colin. Couldn't race for a year but recently won the Senior Classic TT in the I-O-M. Hopes to compete in next years TT and probably will win at least one race as he has done 24 times before. Doesn't use a wheelchair. Sorry you are wrong, if a persons spinal cord is severed they will never walk again. SO YOUR FRIENDS INJURIES WERE NOTHING LIKE MINE. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 Just now, colinneil said: Sorry you are wrong, if a persons spinal cord is severed they will never walk again. SO YOUR FRIENDS INJURIES WERE NOTHING LIKE MINE. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/motorsport/45309680 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CharlieH Posted October 27, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, Spidey said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/motorsport/45309680 From that article "McGuinness is making his TT comeback after breaking his back, leg and ribsin a crash at the 2017 North West 200." it does not say his spinal chord was severed so as stated, is nothing like what Colin has suffered. Back on topic please. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 11 minutes ago, camble said: I required an emergency gastrectomy at Bangkok Hospital Medical Center when my stomach was hemmoraging. I believe my surgeon, educated in Thailand, was extremely competent because I’ve only had to give up the buffet, and their nurses were great too. Interesting as nearly all the doctors at the top Bangkok hospitals were educated abroad. Why do you think that is? Could it be because the medical industry is far superior than in Thailand. If I had a serious problem, I'd want to go back to Scotland. Comparing Thai doctors to Scottish doctors is like comparing chalk and cheese. Cloning, penicillin, anaesthetic, treatment of malaria, MRI scanner, saline drip, hypodermic needle, vaccine for typhoid, staphlococcus, TB treatment, beta blockers, first ECG, and many more. Not bad for a country smaller than Bangkok. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camble Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 4 minutes ago, Neeranam said: Interesting as nearly all the doctors at the top Bangkok hospitals were educated abroad. Why do you think that is? Could it be because the medical industry is far superior than in Thailand. If I had a serious problem, I'd want to go back to Scotland. Comparing Thai doctors to Scottish doctors is like comparing chalk and cheese. Cloning, penicillin, anaesthetic, treatment of malaria, MRI scanner, saline drip, hypodermic needle, vaccine for typhoid, staphlococcus, TB treatment, beta blockers, first ECG, and many more. Not bad for a country smaller than Bangkok. Glen Frey of The Eagles had GI surgery just a month before I did, at Columbia University Medical Center in NYC. I’m sure it’s a very fine hospital, but he died from complications. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esso49 Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 6 minutes ago, Neeranam said: Interesting as nearly all the doctors at the top Bangkok hospitals were educated abroad. Why do you think that is? Could it be because the medical industry is far superior than in Thailand. If I had a serious problem, I'd want to go back to Scotland. Comparing Thai doctors to Scottish doctors is like comparing chalk and cheese. Cloning, penicillin, anaesthetic, treatment of malaria, MRI scanner, saline drip, hypodermic needle, vaccine for typhoid, staphlococcus, TB treatment, beta blockers, first ECG, and many more. Not bad for a country smaller than Bangkok. Then tell us, why isn't Scotland the worlds' most popular medical treatment centre ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 1 minute ago, Esso49 said: Then tell us, why isn't Scotland the worlds' most popular medical treatment centre ? Money, people come to Thailand hospitals as they are cheaper than ones in their own, it certainly isn't because of better doctors. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyTheMook Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 4 minutes ago, camble said: Glen Frey of The Eagles had GI surgery just a month before I did, at Columbia University Medical Center in NYC. I’m sure it’s a very fine hospital, but he died from complications. O'rly? Columbia and Mt. Sinai are amongst the top hospitals in the world. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 Just now, Esso49 said: Then tell us, why isn't Scotland the worlds' most popular medical treatment centre ? Because it's not cheap as chips for medical tourists, which is the only reason people come to Thailand for treatment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhys Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 Generally, it has been good both private and public......funny sometimes they forget to tell you if they left a stent in... for kidnestone removals... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esso49 Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 1 minute ago, Spidey said: Because it's not cheap as chips for medical tourists, which is the only reason people come to Thailand for treatment. I think your assertion that people come to Thailand because medical treatment is the cheapest may be slightly wrong. There are some people, believe or not with some life threatening ailments that have come to Thailand solely because of the treatment and aftercare that they receive. Cost in these cases is secondary. Thailand currently lies 6th in the league table for affordable world class health care 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post marcusarelus Posted October 27, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 27, 2018 20 minutes ago, Neeranam said: Interesting as nearly all the doctors at the top Bangkok hospitals were educated abroad. Why do you think that is? Could it be because the medical industry is far superior than in Thailand. If I had a serious problem, I'd want to go back to Scotland. Comparing Thai doctors to Scottish doctors is like comparing chalk and cheese. Cloning, penicillin, anaesthetic, treatment of malaria, MRI scanner, saline drip, hypodermic needle, vaccine for typhoid, staphlococcus, TB treatment, beta blockers, first ECG, and many more. Not bad for a country smaller than Bangkok. And a lot of experience with knife wounds. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 Just now, Esso49 said: I think your assertion that people come to Thailand because medical treatment is the cheapest may be slightly wrong. There are some people, believe or not with some life threatening ailments that have come to Thailand solely because of the treatment and aftercare that they receive. Cost in these cases is secondary. Thailand currently lies 6th in the league table for affordable world class health care Believe it or not? Not, for me thanks. How many Western doctors would come here to train? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 Just now, marcusarelus said: And a lot of experience with knife wounds. So does Glasgow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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