webfact Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 Trump political ad assailed as 'sickening,' racially divisive U.S. President Donald Trump speaks during a campaign rally in Estero, Florida, U.S., October 31, 2018. REUTERS/Carlos Barria WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump faced scathing criticism on Thursday for an advertisement linking Democrats and immigrants to violent crime, with some fellow Republicans blasting it as "sickening" and the most racially divisive political ad in three decades. "This ad, and your full approval of it, will condemn you and your bigoted legacy forever in the annals of America’s history books," Al Cardenas, the Florida Republican Party's former chairman, wrote on Twitter. The online ad features courtroom footage of Luis Bracamontes - an illegal immigrant from Mexico convicted in the 2014 killings of two police officers in Sacramento, California - saying in accented English he would kill more cops. The ad cuts between clips of Bracamontes and scenes of migrants, likely a reference to a caravan of up to 3,000 Central Americans headed through southern Mexico en route to the U.S. border. "Who else would Democrats let in?" asks the ad, which Trump tweeted late on Wednesday. The ad ends with the tag: "President Donald J. Trump and Republicans are making America Safe Again!," a play on Trump's "Make America Great Again" slogan. Trump's presidential re-election campaign paid for the ad, U.S. news media reported. The campaign did not immediately respond to a request for comment. "This is a sickening ad. Republicans everywhere should denounce it," U.S. Senator Jeff Flake, one of Trump's most prominent Republican critics, said on Twitter Thursday. Democratic National Committee Chairman Tom Perez characterized the ad as "distracting, divisive Donald at his worst." In an interview with CNN, Perez described the ad as "fear-mongering." Cardenas called Trump "a despicable divider; the worse social poison to afflict our country in decades." Trump, whose administration takes a hard-line approach to legal and illegal immigration, has focussed on the caravan to drum up support for Republican congressional and gubernatorial candidates ahead of Tuesday's congressional elections. Democrats are generally favoured to win the 23 seats they need to gain a majority in the U.S. House of Representatives, an advantage they could use to block Trump's agenda. Republicans have a stronger chance of keeping control of the Senate, according to opinion polls and nonpartisan forecasters. Some Democrats, including Robert Reich, who served as secretary of labour in the Clinton administration, compared the spot to the 1988 "Willie Horton" ad, which supporters of Republican then-candidate George H.W. Bush used to great effect against Democratic rival Michael Dukakis. Horton was a convicted murderer who went on a crime spree while on furlough from prison under a programme supported by Dukakis, then governor of Massachusetts. The ad was widely criticized for emphasizing that Horton was black. "This may be the most desperate and vile ad since Willie Horton," Reich said on Twitter. "They've resorted to fearmongering." It is not the first time that Trump has used Bracamontes in a political ad. The man also featured in a January video tied to the anniversary of Trump's Jan. 20, 2017 inauguration. GRAPHIC - For a look at battleground states: https://graphics.reuters.com/USA-ELECTION-TOSSUP-SEATS/010080SV1K9/index.html GRAPHIC - Can Democrats regain control of the House?: https://graphics.reuters.com/USA-ELECTION-BLUEWAVE/010080J912P/index.html All Reuters election coverage https://www.reuters.com/politics/election2018 (Reporting by Scott Malone; editing by Jonathan Oatis and James Dalgleish) -- © Copyright Reuters 2018-11-02 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PatOngo Posted November 1, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 1, 2018 The Wall, Donny, where's The Wall? You've been there for 2 years already! 3 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bendejo Posted November 1, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 1, 2018 Luis Bracamontes is the 2018 GOP language for Willie Horton. DT even has one of the guys behind it (Roger Stone) in his cabal. Amazing that there is no originality to this guy at all, even during the primaries his "economic plan" was Reagan's supply-side, chapter and verse. Supply-side failed, but the faithful with their red caps wouldn't know what the hell you're talking about if you mentioned it. Fear and stupidity, great for politics. 9 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jossthaifarang Posted November 2, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 2, 2018 15 minutes ago, PatOngo said: The Wall, Donny, where's The Wall? You've been there for 2 years already! Still waiting on a down payment from Mexico! 4 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OneMoreFarang Posted November 2, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 2, 2018 How many republicans will change their mind because of one ad? Trump was disgusting before the election and he didn't improve since the election. But 62 million people voted for him and many of them still support him. What does this tell us about those 62 millions? I know the alternative for president was not good but it seems too many people still support this maniac. It is obvious that he lies all the time and it's obvious that he wants to divide the nation even further. And people still support him... 15 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post neeray Posted November 2, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 2, 2018 A desperate man (child) taking a desperate measure. (But I'm glad he did it ....... one more nail in his coffin) 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lungstib Posted November 2, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 2, 2018 There is no level so low that he wont stoop to it. Most of the world looks on with disbelieve as Don goes on tearing his country apart and adding to his huge list of lies. He truly is a record breaker, in the worst possible way. 10 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post neeray Posted November 2, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 2, 2018 9 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said: How many republicans will change their mind because of one ad? Trump was disgusting before the election and he didn't improve since the election. But 62 million people voted for him and many of them still support him. What does this tell us about those 62 millions? I know the alternative for president was not good but it seems too many people still support this maniac. It is obvious that he lies all the time and it's obvious that he wants to divide the nation even further. And people still support him... He's practicing "Divide and Conquer". We just don't know his final plan. Chances are, he doesn't either. 3 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OneMoreFarang Posted November 2, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 2, 2018 36 minutes ago, Lungstib said: There is no level so low that he wont stoop to it. Most of the world looks on with disbelieve as Don goes on tearing his country apart and adding to his huge list of lies. He truly is a record breaker, in the worst possible way. But it's not only one man. It seems basically the whole republican party support him. Are they all only power hungry without any sense or spine? And then there are all the fox-"news" fans, etc. Idiots exist all over the world but in most countries people don't vote them to become presidents. Its sad to see how many Americans actually support that lunatic. 3 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CALSinCM Posted November 2, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 2, 2018 There are an immense number of people who 'hate' Trump for the sake of simply 'hating' Trump, while at the same time accusing Trump of being a 'hater'. The absurdity is novel. 5 4 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lungstib Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said: Idiots exist all over the world but in most countries people don't vote them to become presidents. Its sad to see how many Americans actually support that lunatic. You are of course correct but I put it down to that much repeated lie of the "American Dream". People have believed it, paid big to get through college, worked hard and yet not found that promised prosperity. They are mad, angry and want someone to blame. Trump has offered them suspects, Its these people paying the taxes and keeping the country running. The top Republican politicians know this, know how little tax they pay by comparison and squeezing everything out of the situation before the empire collapses. Which it will. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tug Posted November 2, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 2, 2018 With his ranting today I think article 25 is in order he is really frightened that add is race baiting pure and simple he needs to do something about that dementia he really does need a doctors care 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milwaukeeboy Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 The wall will come when Obama closes Guantanamo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jonnapat Posted November 2, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 2, 2018 The rest of the world are sick to death of all this dirty politicking. Trump is now completely out of control and the damage being done to America's image will take an age to repair. 5 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post quandow Posted November 2, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 2, 2018 1 hour ago, CALSinCM said: There are an immense number of people who 'hate' Trump for the sake of simply 'hating' Trump, while at the same time accusing Trump of being a 'hater'. The absurdity is novel. No, there are plenty of reasons to hate Trump. He is a despicable being (I can't put in writing that he's human, he's perhaps the most INHUMANE character in recent history). And there's evidence from the day he took office of what a hater he is, starting with the Muslim ban and the latest are his vile lies about the brown people risking their lives to seek asylum. I've noticed Trump supporters are posting less lately. Maybe they're finally waking up to what a nasty piece of work he is. 14 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mauGR1 Posted November 2, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 2, 2018 16 minutes ago, Jonnapat said: The rest of the world are sick to death of all this dirty politicking. Trump is now completely out of control and the damage being done to America's image will take an age to repair. But the fact is he's still there, spouting poison every day. It looks like a surreal comedy. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post neeray Posted November 2, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 2, 2018 10 minutes ago, quandow said: No, there are plenty of reasons to hate Trump. He is a despicable being (I can't put in writing that he's human, he's perhaps the most INHUMANE character in recent history). And there's evidence from the day he took office of what a hater he is, starting with the Muslim ban and the latest are his vile lies about the brown people risking their lives to seek asylum. I've noticed Trump supporters are posting less lately. Maybe they're finally waking up to what a nasty piece of work he is. "I've noticed Trump supporters are posting less lately." They're definitely posting less. Some have gone into hiding. Others do nothing more than use the "sad" emoticon. Trump has embarrassed the crap out of them. 4 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mikebike Posted November 2, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 2, 2018 1 hour ago, CALSinCM said: There are an immense number of people who 'hate' Trump for the sake of simply 'hating' Trump, while at the same time accusing Trump of being a 'hater'. The absurdity is novel. The people I know who dislike 45 do so because of his policies and his character. No one I know hates just for the sake of it... are things different on your side of the political fence? 6 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Becker Posted November 2, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 2, 2018 6 minutes ago, neeray said: "I've noticed Trump supporters are posting less lately." They're definitely posting less. Some have gone into hiding. Others do nothing more than use the "sad" emoticon. Trump has embarrassed the crap out of them. I don't think many of them could feel embarrassment no matter what the man-child did. 2 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mauGR1 Posted November 2, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 2, 2018 6 minutes ago, neeray said: "I've noticed Trump supporters are posting less lately." They're definitely posting less. Some have gone into hiding. Others do nothing more than use the "sad" emoticon. Trump has embarrassed the crap out of them. I'm afraid you're giving them a lot of credit, it needs some morals to feel embarrassed. 2 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post johnnybangkok Posted November 2, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 2, 2018 2 hours ago, Lungstib said: You are of course correct but I put it down to that much repeated lie of the "American Dream". People have believed it, paid big to get through college, worked hard and yet not found that promised prosperity. They are mad, angry and want someone to blame. Trump has offered them suspects, Its these people paying the taxes and keeping the country running. The top Republican politicians know this, know how little tax they pay by comparison and squeezing everything out of the situation before the empire collapses. Which it will. I agree and it's the oldest trick in the political book; get the working man to blame the immigrants for all the problems in their life even though the country is run by billionaires and corporations. It always reminds me of the joke; Billionaire, worker and immigrant sitting at a table with 20 cookies. The billionaire takes 19 of them and turns to the worker and says ' watch out, the immigrant is going to take your cookie away'. Yet people can't see it. They just continue to fight among themselves for the scraps, blaming people who have little choice in their life but to try and find something better even if it means putting themselves and their children in harm’s way, whilst the billionaires and corporations sit back and laugh about how much they are still getting away with it and how no one is blaming them. It's a helluva con. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mauGR1 Posted November 2, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 2, 2018 7 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said: I agree and it's the oldest trick in the political book; get the working man to blame the immigrants for all the problems in their life even though the country is run by billionaires and corporations. It always reminds me of the joke; Billionaire, worker and immigrant sitting at a table with 20 cookies. The billionaire takes 19 of them and turns to the worker and says ' watch out, the immigrant is going to take your cookie away'. Yet people can't see it. They just continue to fight among themselves for the scraps, blaming people who have little choice in their life but to try and find something better even if it means putting themselves and their children in harm’s way, whilst the billionaires and corporations sit back and laugh about how much they are still getting away with it and how no one is blaming them. It's a helluva con. But, if you say that the worker and the immigrant should have 2 cookies each, plenty of people will brand you as an evil communist. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post spidermike007 Posted November 2, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 2, 2018 This man has no dignity, elegance, class, respect, kindness, empathy, charity, or vision. What else can be expected of him? It is just how he rolls. His devotees seem to like his style. What can one even say, except that it will be thrilling to see him become a lame duck come Tuesday. 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bluespunk Posted November 2, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 2, 2018 1 hour ago, mauGR1 said: But the fact is he's still there, spouting poison every day. It looks like a surreal comedy. Except the joke isn’t funny anymore. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 I doubt the Latino community will appreciate this ad. It will not help getting their votes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post EVENKEEL Posted November 2, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 2, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, quandow said: No, there are plenty of reasons to hate Trump. He is a despicable being (I can't put in writing that he's human, he's perhaps the most INHUMANE character in recent history). And there's evidence from the day he took office of what a hater he is, starting with the Muslim ban and the latest are his vile lies about the brown people risking their lives to seek asylum. I've noticed Trump supporters are posting less lately. Maybe they're finally waking up to what a nasty piece of work he is. Just because you don't like Trump doesn't mean he's not bringing up issues that have been buried for too long. Sort of like cramming junk into a closet or drawer, at some point you have to clean it out. It's not always an easy task, but it needs to be done. He may not sort it all out but he's bringing it to the light of day. Edited November 2, 2018 by EVENKEEL 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Srinivas Posted November 2, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 2, 2018 Have you seen the ad? Its clear, precise,short . main message: Democrats are weak on border security. Its also a bait for the over reaction of msm always playing identity politics that many are tuning out of, including latinos especially those that live near border towns. Everyone knows the spiraling crime situation in their towns and those south of the border. US has plenty of crime as it is, you dont need to be a racist to control your borders rather than be open to cross border criminals in both directions. We are talking about illegally entering another country without a filter. What other nation in the world allows for illegal entry? check out some these articles regarding Mexico https://www.scmp.com/news/world/americas/article/2128225/murders-mexican-resort-tijuana-top-1700-2017-rival-drug-gangs https://www.economist.com/the-economist-explains/2018/05/09/why-mexicos-murder-rate-is-soaring https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jul/23/mexico-crime-homicides-violence-up-report Country saw 15,973 killings in the first half of the year, the highest since records began in 1997 https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/18-victims-of-homicide-found-in-24-hours/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/in-sight/wp/2017/12/29/once-popular-mexican-towns-deteriorate-as-warring-drug-cartels-provoke-killings-drug-addiction-and-violence/ TIJUANA, Mexico (Reuters) - Mexican drug gangs near the U.S. border are breaking into police radio frequencies to issue chilling death threats to cops which they then carry out, demoralizing security forces in a worsening drug war. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mexico-drugs/mexico-drug-gangs-threaten-cops-on-radio-kill-them-idUSTRE51558E20090206 simply yelling racism does no good. There is a serious problems in Mexico right now so it would make sense to have a strong border or it will spill over into US which has enough of its own problems. Democrats offer nothing but identy politics and hurling "racist" at any attempt at improving border security or,immigration reform in regards to this problem. Trumps offer of amnesty to 1.8 million was turned down for midterm political pandering to cry racist at every turn. https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/26/trump-daca-deal-is-a-dream-come-true-for-democrats-commentary.html Democrats would be crazy to reject Trump's DACA deal but they did reject. finally https://www.businessinsider.com/sessions-names-cartels-ms-13-hezbollah-transnational-crime-threats-2018-10/ The ad is mild compared to using stories straight from mexico border cities imo. He could have used Mexican news footage easily found,on YT , bodies hanging from bridges, lamp posts, decapitated heads on the side of the road. truly chilling footages from just south of the border. check out the stories and think for yourself. or chant Orange Man Bad ???? 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mikebike Posted November 2, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 2, 2018 42 minutes ago, Srinivas said: Have you seen the ad? Its clear, precise,short . If you feel the need to repeat your posts in multiple threads we can all play that game!! It is just a pinhole look at a bigger picture. It would be just as easy to create an attack-ad featuring a gnarly-tattooed arian nation gang member incarcerated for torturing his victims before killing them (this is a true story too...). What do either of these stories have to do with the big picture? Nothing. What do either of these stories have to do with the average immigrant or average American? Nothing. 6 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Srinivas Posted November 2, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 2, 2018 (edited) 22 minutes ago, mikebike said: If you feel the need to repeat your posts in multiple threads we can all play that game!! It is just a pinhole look at a bigger picture. It would be just as easy to create an attack-ad featuring a gnarly-tattooed arian nation gang member incarcerated for torturing his victims before killing them (this is a true story too...). What do either of these stories have to do with the big picture? Nothing. What do either of these stories have to do with the average immigrant or average American? Nothing. post repeated as its more appropriate here as this new article is about the ad your tattooed aryan is a citizen of which country? like I said enough problems with crime so why would you import more? all racism 24/7 lol Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) Tweeted: It is outrageous what the Democrats are doing to our Country. Vote Republican now! https://t.co/0pWiwCHGbh https://t.co/2crea9HF7G https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1057728445386539008?s=17 Edited November 2, 2018 by Srinivas 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Berkshire Posted November 2, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 2, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Srinivas said: Have you seen the ad? Its clear, precise,short . I've seen the ad and the clear implication is both racist and a lie. Racist because it implies all Mexicans are murdering thugs. And a lie because this guy returned to the US during the GW Bush administration, so it wasn't Democrats allowing him back in. Would Trump consider using this guy in his ad? He just murdered 11 innocent worshipers. That should justify sending the military after the White Supremacists. But Trump won't do that--they're pretty much his base. Edited November 2, 2018 by Berkshire 6 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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