Popular Post AhFarangJa Posted November 6, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 6, 2018 43 minutes ago, gmac said: Ban u-turns, install roundabouts. Sorry gmac, that is a good one. Here in Hua Hin they made a roundabout on soi 88. You have never seen such a clusterf*** in all your life. Not one vehicle gives way to traffic on the roundabout, Bikes, and sometimes even cars go round the wrong way, or simply turn right on the wrong side of the road instead of going around........Total mayhem. When you try and use it correctly you are met with glares of disapproval. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benmart Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 3 hours ago, Samui Bodoh said: "...Central agency needed’ to tackle rising road accidents..." What a pile of crap. What is needed is for the police to get off their asses, get on to the roads and patrol. And, when they see someone driving badly, stupidly, under-age and/or drunk, take action. It ain't rocket science. This is a police problem. If the police did their job, Thailand would have MUCH MUCH safer roads. End of discussion. BTW: this "Central Agency" is yet another case of Bureaucratic BS. Stop wasting everyone's time and money on Bureaucratic empire-building. I agree. The absence of trained, equipped, honest and mobile traffic police is a significant contributor to the lawless and dangerous driving habits hereto. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wealthychef Posted November 6, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 6, 2018 3 hours ago, webfact said: We have analysed and found two major factors that make Thailand’s efforts to mitigate the problem ineffective: weak law enforcement and the lack of a direct central agency to tackle the problem,” Wittaya said. So predictably, the headline is to ignore the real problem, which is weak law enforcement due to culture of bribery and corruption, and focus on making a whole new agency full of obedient pencil pushers who will value their job security too much and have too little authority to implement any real changes. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebell Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 3 hours ago, webfact said: weak law enforcement In a nutshell! Make cops work nights - at the moment they disappear Friday afternoon till sometime Monday. Then they become bandit packs and rob poor Thais @ 40 baht a throw or foolish farangs @ 200 baht. All around them, before and after the road blocks, idiots are speeding/drunk driving & putting others at risk. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quandow Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 2 hours ago, cooked said: Unfortunately this aspect of Thailand is part of what we love about the place (most of us). COULDN'T AGREE MORE!!! The deciding factor for my initial move to Thailand was a speeding ticket in New Mexico. HORRIBLE staters, and the one who pulled me over had the Napoleonic complex. Like Sammy said, "I can't drive fifty-five!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cadbury Posted November 6, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 6, 2018 4 hours ago, webfact said: INTERNATIONAL ROAD safety experts have urged Thailand to follow Vietnam’s example by setting up a central agency to directly mitigate the country’s severe accidents problem Perhaps a good idea. The next logical move is to set up a committee to look into the possibility of setting up a Central Agency. That shouldn't take more than four years. 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howbri Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 That's it!! More big government is the answer! Nothing to do with culture or education, or enforcement, just more government! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klauskunkel Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 (edited) Quote 'Central agency needed' to tackle rising road accidents in Thailand 7-Eleven will take care of it Edited November 6, 2018 by klauskunkel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvr181 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, cooked said: So less talk about police repression please, and start talking about education and prevention, which should also be a part of police work. Wow! Yet again same same geat ideas being espoused, BUT, the first major problem, is that currently there is little or NO police work! And no willingness (from the "top") to make them do their job! OMG "Central agency" just sounds like another rewards job for people who will, like those before them, DO NOTHING! Edited November 6, 2018 by lvr181 Additional comment 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roo860 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 What's needed is a 'crack down', well, maybe for a day.Sent from my SM-G920F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailand49 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Been saying the same thing for years here and every chance I get. Thailand has more agencies label "Transport" but none of these have the power or authority to do anything except talk plus they are the problem since to teach and fix you must have learned alternatives which none have since they come from the same school of driving. First, instead of urging, it should be insisted on by the W.H.O., not a dollar until it is done since they have already poured millions of dollars already. The entire situation the PM should declare Section 44 and give an outside body full control to hire and fire any officials who stand in the way of progress and saving lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimdandy Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 (edited) In other words if you drive on the roads in Thailand you take your life into your own hands. Car dealerships make money selling cars then pay government taxes or surcharges on sales. Government has to spend money repairing and upgrading roads so guess what's not going to change?????? Edited November 6, 2018 by Jimdandy typo correction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgdanson Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 34 minutes ago, nursebob said: enforce the laws already in place, i.e. crash helmets and seat belts. But that will not prevent or reduce the number of accidents, simply help the idiots who cause said accidents to survive, to do it again ! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooked Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 6 minutes ago, lvr181 said: Wow! Yet again same same geat ideas being espoused, BUT, the first major problem, is that currently there is little or NO police work! And no willingness (from the "top") to make them do their job! OMG "Central agency" just sounds like another rewards job for people who will, like those before them, DO NOTHING! I guess you missed my point. The police need educating also, and the only way to get them to do their job is through motivation, ie wages and pride. Repression is what happens when things are allowed to go too far and nobody has any insight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaurene Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Here we go again. The Bull Shit Deparment again. The problem is staring them in the face, but the cleaners on 300 Bt a day cannot keep up brushing it all under the carpet, no room any more. 1: Start paying your Police a living wage. And servier punishment for demanding envelopes with tee money in. 2: Make the road laws and punish the culprits where it will hurt them, because the Thai people know they will get away with it. 4-5 people on a bike and children allowed to ride them. Stop this, as far as confiscating the bike and making the parents responsible also for letting them use their bikes. We can go on and on, but the law makers cannot be bothered, to much work for them. They should look at the western world laws and what they do. end of the JOKE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvr181 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 7 minutes ago, roo860 said: What's needed is a 'crack down', well, maybe for a day. Sent from my SM-G920F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Hehehe..........the "cracks are down" - RTP sitting on their backsides! Hasn't helped. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terminatorchiangmai Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 4 hours ago, webfact said: “Thailand ranks second among countries with the highest deaths from road accidents Something happened last night, we not number 1 anymore ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvr181 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 5 minutes ago, cooked said: I guess you missed my point. The police need educating also, and the only way to get them to do their job is through motivation, ie wages and pride. Repression is what happens when things are allowed to go too far and nobody has any insight. "I guess you missed my point." I guess I did. Simple answer = TIT. Understand their culture and history. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvr181 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 9 minutes ago, wgdanson said: But that will not prevent or reduce the number of accidents, simply help the idiots who cause said accidents to survive, to do it again ! Hehehe.............oh ye of little faith. ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easy Come Easy Go Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 4 hours ago, cooked said: By past experience this will result in even more policemen living in tents over the holiday period, heavier fines and more opportunities for press conferences. Nobody will bother about un-Thai things such as prevention, education Police and public), engineering and corruption. Things will only ever improve here once corruption is tackled, and when obvious moronic behaviour is stopped, such as driving a bike with an entire family on, with no helmets, and driving a pickup truck with 20 people in the back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4MyEgo Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Lungstib said: Today I will drive 200kms home from Chiang Mai. The first 15 towards the city on a 'highway' with U-turns, shops, markets and many junctions will pass without me see any speed limit signs. Whats safe? Who knows and who cares. Some will be doing 100kph+. Nowhere will I come across a highway patrol car looking for speeders. They are solely used for VIP convoys. I will find myself behind at least 10 cars being driven by drivers without the first clue to driving and road use, people who shouldn't be out on the road at all. Yes, just another normal day. Proper speed limits, proper enforcement, proper driving tests. More bureaucrats and agencies will end up just another layer of uniformed wage earners sitting at desks. How very true, yesterday driving into town I saw the usual beginning of the month road block with all the cops checking registrations and fining drivers for not having their vehicles registered, don't worry about the ones doing a u turn a little further down, no cops to stop them or the motorcycle riders without helmets, yes, make the monthly target and we can all go about doing what we do best, "nothing", all these deaths surely must be blamed on the cops for their lack of road rules enforced, but if the top brass don't give a rats, who ever will. Sack the lot of them and start over I say. Gotta start somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyL Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 I can't wait for this year's New Year safety campaign to be released. Something along the lines of - 'All parties concerned urge drivers to not drink before driving'. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoker58 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 “......but also of road users to have more consideration for other people on the road.” Enforcement is a big part of the answer. You only have to spend ten minutes on a Thai road to see someone do something stupid. But a large part of the problem is inside peoples heads too. Everything is “me, me, me” and road rage if I don’t get my way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robsweblinks Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Think on the bright side. More economic growth ie: New cars. funerals. Doctors. nurses. Tow trucks junk yards. The lists goes on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damascase Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 8 minutes ago, Stoker58 said: “......but also of road users to have more consideration for other people on the road.” Enforcement is a big part of the answer. You only have to spend ten minutes on a Thai road to see someone do something stupid. But a large part of the problem is inside peoples heads too. Everything is “me, me, me” and road rage if I don’t get my way. Ten minutes? 10 seconds will do too........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Enforce the laws that are in place now, stop the roadside "tea-money" fine which does nothing except allow an offender to carry on as usual! For minor offences offenders are given a ticket which must go to a police station, fines are paid directly by transfer to a central government agency. More severe offences are taken to court where clearly defined penalties are enacted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0815 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 And I thought this would be the job of the Police. But as long as people still can pass a checkpoint not wearing a helmet bcoz the checkpoint is set up to check licenses, nothing will change... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon537687643 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Here we go again. The Bull Shit Deparment again. The problem is staring them in the face, but the cleaners on 300 Bt a day cannot keep up brushing it all under the carpet, no room any more. 1: Start paying your Police a living wage. And servier punishment for demanding envelopes with tee money in. 2: Make the road laws and punish the culprits where it will hurt them, because the Thai people know they will get away with it. 4-5 people on a bike and children allowed to ride them. Stop this, as far as confiscating the bike and making the parents responsible also for letting them use their bikes. We can go on and on, but the law makers cannot be bothered, to much work for them. They should look at the western world laws and what they do. end of the JOKE.Those who think by giving Police a payrise will stop corruption are in cloud cuckoo land Sent from my iPhone using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardinalblue Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Thailand just doesn’t take driving seriously as it is not a serious culture.... problem solving is just too difficult and painful to do....could you imagine if the police (which lack the ability and skills necessary to do enforcement currently) start to give out tickets for moving violations? The population would revolt not b/c of a few bad drivers but b/c of 20-30% bad drivers... The thai culture avoids difficult complex issues so these issues are allowed to fester and worsen.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrick kennedy Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Yes agreed we need a seperate agency to tackle the road carnage,but first.We need more cameras,we need positive action from the Police,The COFFEY MONEY Must Stop,if it does not stop then we are blowing in the Wind.All Vehicles should be stopped at some time or other,to make sure that the driver is licensed and that the vehicle is Insured,All drivers should carry the drivers licence,if a driver does not have the licence with him or her then the vehicle is confiscated and towed and they have to pay and produce the required docs before the release of the vehicle,and only released to the person who was driving at that time,unless that person does not have a licence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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