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Thailand will pay heavy price for over-reliance on China [Editorial]


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1 hour ago, Time Traveller said:

Actually Thailand is a little smarter than these journalists like to admit. Why? Because they can just confiscate foreign owned assets whenever they feel like it despite any previous promises or International Trade agreements.

Remember the Australian Kingsgate gold mine in Loei province? If Thailand wants to get rid of the foreigner (after accepting their investment capital of course) they just make up a new law and take it. 

Chinese money that comes to Thailand, most likely will never be repaid.

 

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3 hours ago, ChrisY1 said:

With most elite here in Thailand, their Chinese heritage naturally leans toward China...with traditional suspicions of westerners......as is common in much of SE Asia.

Many Thai-Chinese are confident that China will be achieve major power status globally within the next 20-50 years....and IMO, are happy that Thailand is leaning toward them.

 

That is false, the only reason why the government leans toward China because that is the only country giving out loans at low interest rates. So the government accepts it to make it look like they are getting things done in the country - infrastructure being built etc etc.

 

Its not that many Thai-Chinese are confident that China will achieve major power status. The Chinese already have and all western countries know it. They are already a major super power with have a huge influence all over the world.

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2 hours ago, Bundooman said:

I would suggest that China isn't really interested in whether Thais can afford the high speed network or its non-freight carrying capabilities.

But it sure as hell will get a lot of Chinese troops down through Asia at record speed when it eventually suits them.......

Maybe but don't be paranoid about it. This really is a BIG way to make money. Where trade interests go, power follows, that's for sure.

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3 hours ago, Time Traveller said:

Remember the Australian Kingsgate gold mine in Loei province?

Not sure of how that fits into your narrative. Thailand is complying with ATFTA with its grievances against Kingsgate, albeit once Prayut understood (I suspect) that the Kingdom of Thailand with the Monarch as Head of State is bound by the terms of the Agreement. Prayut hasn't nationalized the gold mine.

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7 hours ago, webfact said:

acting as if Beijing were the only source of support for his economic plans. 

That's likely a misrepresentation of Somkid's economic pursuits.

In recent history Japan has made the largest Foreign Direct Investments in Thailand. For example,

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China until 2018 has focused on making loans to finance junta projects but declining joint ventures.  Only just mid-year 2018 China has shown interest in investing in the EEC. However, such interest may be more motivated by Japan's investment dominance in the EEC than by Thailand's needs for investments.

 

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the Japanese investing huge sums is not about influencing a countries policy on this scale, unlike the Chinese, who for 150 years have taken over as the dominant player of influence on this land,from the aryan cultures who came along with their language and subservient ways over the previous 2000 years.

 

just have to look at Somkid and Prawit etc at their chinese origin, in fact you can pretty much say most chinese origin people with thai passports are 'intentional' landing lights for the chinese mothership

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4 hours ago, Bundooman said:

I would suggest that China isn't really interested in whether Thais can afford the high speed network or its non-freight carrying capabilities.

But it sure as hell will get a lot of Chinese troops down through Asia at record speed when it eventually suits them.......

Should it come to conflict those tracks along with all other transport routes would be disabled in the blink of an eye.  A conflict with the Asian super power would be a disaster but they would not win. 

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China has developed massive production capacities for everything involved in infrastructure construction: cement, iron, aluminum, you name it.

 

After having covered its country with empty cities desserted by empty airports, empty 6 lane roads and empty high speed trains, there is not much left to cover.

 

So why not go and do the same in ususpecting neighboring countries...at their expense?

 

On the one hand, China can sell its overcapacity and keep its workers busy (something essential for its stability), and on the other hand China stands to make a nice financial profit from its "friendly" loans.

 

Those who stand to lose are...all the other participants, save maybe one or two.

 

They gonna find themselves with high speed trains that they won't be able to operate efficiently, even less maintain, and even less fill up with passengers.

 

They will have highways to nowhere that they won't be able to maintain, empty airports...exactly like in China!

 

And, cherry on the cake, they will also carry a debt toward China that will take forever to get paid.

 

As they say in poker: if you don't know who the patsy is, then it's you!

 

In the case of the BRI, every player is a patsy, save China!

 

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Yes it will. But by then, the kickbacks will have arrived and the appropriate overseas holidays booked, so nothing to worry about. The 'common good' is only a vague concept for women and children anyway...

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5 hours ago, Oziex1 said:

Should it come to conflict those tracks along with all other transport routes would be disabled in the blink of an eye.  A conflict with the Asian super power would be a disaster but they would not win. 

Do you mean that China would not win against countries like Laos or Thailand?

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For all intents and purposes, Thailand IS China already. 

 

99% of the Thai influence and power and wealth is Chinese-Thai. There Sino-Thais pretend they are in no way Chinese, but somehow many generations of them continue to marry into only Thai Chinese families, getting whiter and whiter skin. 

 

Chinese complete domination of Thailand is the country's biggest known secret 

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I was in, dirt poor, Ethiopia recently and asked my driver why were they building many kilometres of a super dual carriageway in the middle of nowhere and serving tiny villages/hamlets.

 

"Chinese money...Chinese labour...Chinese machinery"

It was patently clear to me....loan poor countries billions, build useless projects, then demand interest and repayment wich as planned they do not have. .

 

Nasty work China you really are the worst and lowest of the low. 

 

Moreover, the initiative has pushed some countries into a morass of debt. The starkest example so far has been Sri Lanka, whose government was unable to repay $6 billion in loans used to build an expensive Chinese-led port and airport project in Hambantota, a once-sleepy but strategically located backwater. As a result, Sri Lankan authorities ceded control of the port and some 15,000 acres of land around it to Beijing on a 99-year lease. The move led to accusations that China is engaging in a 21st-century style of “creditor imperialism."  

“States caught in debt bondage to China risk losing both their most valuable natural assets and their very sovereignty,” warned Indian commentator Brahma Chellaney, an outspoken critic of Beijing. “The new imperial giant’s velvet glove cloaks an iron fist — one with the strength to squeeze the vitality out of smaller countries

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Closer to home, Malaysian Premier Mahathir Mohamad has pulled back from the BRI, cancelling a $20-billion railway and a $2.3-billion natural gas pipeline approved by his predecessor, Najib Razak, citing his country’s ability to repay the debts.

 

Just read the article and found it curious that Malaysia cancelled their gas pipeline because of their "ABILITY to repay the debts."  Seems a strange reason, albeit a good thing to do, to stop the intrusion and burden of repaying for something probably not needed.  Although Malaysia was colonized, while Thailand was/did not, they learned some lessons that Thais did not and one was to be wary of somebody offering things that are not necessary and have a big price attached.

 

'nuf sed

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20 hours ago, harleyclarkey said:

It was patently clear to me....loan poor countries billions, build useless projects, then demand interest and repayment wich as planned they do not have. .

Loansharking is part of Chinese culture, they've just upped the scale to include whole countries.

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