ChipButty Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 3 hours ago, Jack Hna said: Yeah I had a look at his stats too and I actually think he will do well providing he can just focus on playing football and not get dragged down by the lack of professionalism that surrounds the players right through the club from the board to the manager and so e of his team mates like captain kidnap. Tremendous stats and still in absolute peak condition by all accounts. He is at least 2 years younger than zlatan was when he joined this outfit. He was outshone in the PSG team whilst zlatan was there, 3 full seasons played together Zlat got 121 goals and Cav got 81 but still very good. Surprised no one else was onto him. I was just watching a video at that time Zlatan played down the middle and Cavani played out more on the left, when Zlatan left Cavani had a pretty good season this guy does a pretty good job of explaining about Cavani Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipButty Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 According to the bookies the odds for top 4 are not in our favour... Liverpool 1/14 Man City 1/10 Chelsea 8/11 Tottenham 15/8 Arsenal 15/8 Man Utd 5/2 Everton 11/4 Leicester 9/2 Wolven 14/1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xylophone Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 18 hours ago, RickG16 said: I think his problem isn't lack of effort, it's that he's a luxury player who needs two insurance policies behind him to be effective. He doesn't have the mindset or awareness to be a true central midfielder. Although we both support the same team Rick, I can't agree entirely with that comment about "insurance policies". A player who was signed for about £100 million should have the ability to do just about anything, including tracking back and have a level of fitness which is outstanding, and doesn't have to rely on "two insurance policies" behind him to be able to operate effectively. Imagine the scenario where Pogba strikes up a good partnership with Matic, for example, and then Matic is injured and out for six weeks. Imagine also OGS saying to Woodward that United should expect some poor results over the next six weeks because Pogba won't be able to play as well as he could because of Matic's injury!!! Not on in my book, especially when you think of the players that United have had in the past who have been outstanding because of their own abilities, such as Cantona, Giggs, Best and Keane, not to mention Scholes whose distribution was great. Then you have players like Harry Kane and Jamie Vardy, all capable of operating well under their own auspices, and also perhaps one of the greatest midfielders of all time in Dennis Bergkamp.......these players backed themselves and performed accordingly. It has been rumoured that Pogba has wanted to leave for some time, so United should have let him go and gotten rid of this disrupting influence, not to mention a player who has not lived up to expectations in any way, shape, or form. Just my six pennyworth! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipButty Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 8 minutes ago, xylophone said: Although we both support the same team Rick, I can't agree entirely with that comment about "insurance policies". A player who was signed for about £100 million should have the ability to do just about anything, including tracking back and have a level of fitness which is outstanding, and doesn't have to rely on "two insurance policies" behind him to be able to operate effectively. Imagine the scenario where Pogba strikes up a good partnership with Matic, for example, and then Matic is injured and out for six weeks. Imagine also OGS saying to Woodward that United should expect some poor results over the next six weeks because Pogba won't be able to play as well as he could because of Matic's injury!!! Not on in my book, especially when you think of the players that United have had in the past who have been outstanding because of their own abilities, such as Cantona, Giggs, Best and Keane, not to mention Scholes whose distribution was great. Then you have players like Harry Kane and Jamie Vardy, all capable of operating well under their own auspices, and also perhaps one of the greatest midfielders of all time in Dennis Bergkamp.......these players backed themselves and performed accordingly. It has been rumoured that Pogba has wanted to leave for some time, so United should have let him go and gotten rid of this disrupting influence, not to mention a player who has not lived up to expectations in any way, shape, or form. Just my six pennyworth! I did hear had it not been for this pandemic Pogba would have been wearing a Juve shirt he only has 2 years left on his contract and maybe he doesn't see any future in this squad he might feel let down no Sancho, a center back and Grelish only poundland signings he's looking after his own future maybe he wants to have the chance to win a Champions league medal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickG16 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 32 minutes ago, xylophone said: Although we both support the same team Rick, I can't agree entirely with that comment about "insurance policies". A player who was signed for about £100 million should have the ability to do just about anything, including tracking back and have a level of fitness which is outstanding, and doesn't have to rely on "two insurance policies" behind him to be able to operate effectively. Imagine the scenario where Pogba strikes up a good partnership with Matic, for example, and then Matic is injured and out for six weeks. Imagine also OGS saying to Woodward that United should expect some poor results over the next six weeks because Pogba won't be able to play as well as he could because of Matic's injury!!! Not on in my book, especially when you think of the players that United have had in the past who have been outstanding because of their own abilities, such as Cantona, Giggs, Best and Keane, not to mention Scholes whose distribution was great. Then you have players like Harry Kane and Jamie Vardy, all capable of operating well under their own auspices, and also perhaps one of the greatest midfielders of all time in Dennis Bergkamp.......these players backed themselves and performed accordingly. It has been rumoured that Pogba has wanted to leave for some time, so United should have let him go and gotten rid of this disrupting influence, not to mention a player who has not lived up to expectations in any way, shape, or form. Just my six pennyworth! You misunderstand me. I'm not saying build a team around Pogba. I'm saying I think he can only be really effective as a no 10, and we now have Bruno and VDB who can play there, so as far as I'm concerned we should start to build a team for after he leaves. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Hna Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 16 hours ago, RickG16 said: You misunderstand me. I'm not saying build a team around Pogba. I'm saying I think he can only be really effective as a no 10, and we now have Bruno and VDB who can play there, so as far as I'm concerned we should start to build a team for after he leaves. Mate your litter could not even build a sand castle on a rain swept beach. Seriously kidda your deluded. Ask your butty man the score. He sees it for what it is. He ain't hiding from the absolute shambles your team has morphed back into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post smokie36 Posted October 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 10, 2020 Maguire has proven himself to be a dumb kid rather than a proper pro footballer. Busted flush he is now and on a long downward spiral. The next Danny Drinklager. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadilo Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 (edited) 48 minutes ago, RonniePickering22 said: Maguire has proven himself to be a dumb kid rather than a proper pro footballer. Busted flush he is now and on a long downward spiral. The next Danny Drinklager. The big price tag and all the hype made him believe he was something special. The Mykonos episode just verified what many thought already. He is dug himself a massive hole with his Albanian kidnap <deleted>-which he will end up in buried up to his massive forehead. His England place must already be in jeopardy. No one is telling me he currently commands a place. Edited October 10, 2020 by Kadilo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilai Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Congratulations Marcus Rashford. Thoroughly deserved lad! I think I need a lie down???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Hna Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 13 hours ago, Kadilo said: The big price tag and all the hype made him believe he was something special. The Mykonos episode just verified what many thought already. He is dug himself a massive hole with his Albanian kidnap <deleted>-which he will end up in buried up to his massive forehead. His England place must already be in jeopardy. No one is telling me he currently commands a place. The lads the laughing stock of the dressing rooms. Heard greenwood likes to ask the lads if anyone fancies a kebab and this dumb <deleted> don't even get it. He's in a lot of turmoil with his folks as that fabrication perjures his sister and many family friends. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipButty Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 What is it Ole in or Ole out? I'll be honest I'm Ole in I feel he has been let down badly by those above him and so was Mourinio also Van Gaal, at least Ole got them playing the United way. Right now Ole has to grow a pair and drop Pogba lets face it he never came back from the world cup you could say you dont know what you are getting with Pogba, you do know what you are getting and right now it's <deleted>. Make Bruno captain and change to a back 5 for now stop leaking goals 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokie36 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 (edited) A back 5 is hardly the utd way now is it!! Edited October 12, 2020 by RonniePickering22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xylophone Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 10 minutes ago, RonniePickering22 said: A back 5 is hardly the utd way now is it!! And even if they did have a back five, they would probably line up in the same format as that which leaked the goals, as they don't seem to have any tactical nous. IMO the midfield needs to be strengthened in order to give the backline some cover, but again, if the backline hasn't got the sense on how to position itself, then there isn't a lot of hope. Personally I would settle for someone in a holding midfield role, in front of the back line, allowing two other midfielders to do their stuff, and hopefully knowing when to push forward and when not to, and I always remember my old football coach telling me, "push forward by all means, but when it breaks down you think of nothing else other than getting back behind the ball". And I agree with ChipButty, inasmuch as Pogba should be dropped to see if they can form a decent midfield without him because he doesn't add much to it now anyway. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipButty Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 hour ago, RonniePickering22 said: A back 5 is hardly the utd way now is it!! I did say for now, they beat city playing that way 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickG16 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 hour ago, RonniePickering22 said: A back 5 is hardly the utd way now is it!! When a back 5 is more a back 3 with 2 very attacking wingbacks (3-5-2) it can actually be an attacking formation (think England at the World Cup, not so much last night). Maguire looked a bit more comfortable and the midfielders might also benefit from the additional insurance behind them. Transfer window is shut no and we have to make do with what we have. I certainly wouldn't be opposted to a 3-5-2 if it can get the best out of Telles, Fernandes etc while also shoring up the defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipButty Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 It might not be a long-term solution for United, but the back three worked well last season and while that was generally against big six sides, this current version of Solskjaer's team looks short of confidence and the extra protection could be vital. Right now Solskjaer needs some results to try and get the momentum back. Reverting to a back three and playing with a degree of caution might be the best way of achieving that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RickG16 Posted October 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 minute ago, ChipButty said: It might not be a long-term solution for United, but the back three worked well last season and while that was generally against big six sides, this current version of Solskjaer's team looks short of confidence and the extra protection could be vital. Right now Solskjaer needs some results to try and get the momentum back. Reverting to a back three and playing with a degree of caution might be the best way of achieving that. Exactly mate. I wouldn't be opposed to that. Could swap in Cavani + Martial for Greenwood + Rashford depending on form. Don't bother with @Ronnie Pickering by the way. He's a dinosaur who spends his days scoffing down cold meat platters and going on other team's threads to discuss their formations. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Hna Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Just now, ChipButty said: It might not be a long-term solution for United, but the back three worked well last season and while that was generally against big six sides, this current version of Solskjaer's team looks short of confidence and the extra protection could be vital. Right now Solskjaer needs some results to try and get the momentum back. Reverting to a back three and playing with a degree of caution might be the best way of achieving that. Why prolong his tenure? You like being a joke or something. You getting to comfortable with being mediocre? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipButty Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 minute ago, RickG16 said: Exactly mate. I wouldn't be opposed to that. Could swap in Cavani + Martial for Greenwood + Rashford depending on form. Don't bother with @Ronnie Pickering by the way. He's a dinosaur who spends his days scoffing down cold meat platters and going on other team's threads to discuss their formations. I normally dont Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Hna Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Just now, RickG16 said: Exactly mate. I wouldn't be opposed to that. Could swap in Cavani + Martial for Greenwood + Rashford depending on form. Don't bother with @Ronnie Pickering by the way. He's a dinosaur who spends his days scoffing down cold meat platters and going on other team's threads to discuss their formations. And your fat lad rick who lives on moma noodles and your idea of a night out is sipping a leo outside your local 711 with your united shorts from 5 years ago and a Chang wife beater busting at the seams. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herewe Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Guy's, you need to get Poch in before your naughty neighbours beat you to it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipButty Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, Herewe said: Guy's, you need to get Poch in before your naughty neighbours beat you to it. The quote was Noisy Neighbours and why do we need Poch? I dont think he ever won anything as a player never mind as a manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Hna Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 10 minutes ago, ChipButty said: The quote was Noisy Neighbours and why do we need Poch? I dont think he ever won anything as a player never mind as a manager You are aiming too high pal. Your remit is to start competing again. Poch is a good choice to instill that. Getting over the line is a challenge you will have to risk together. Beats the current system hands down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokie36 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 hour ago, RickG16 said: Exactly mate. I wouldn't be opposed to that. Could swap in Cavani + Martial for Greenwood + Rashford depending on form. Don't bother with @Ronnie Pickering by the way. He's a dinosaur who spends his days scoffing down cold meat platters and going on other team's threads to discuss their formations. Steak n onion pie and a trip to the dentist later....not my favourite place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickG16 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, RonniePickering22 said: Steak n onion pie and a trip to the dentist later....not my favourite place. Thanks for keeping us updated. I think I'd take a trip to the dentist over watching the Nations League to be honest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balo Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Let's see if this crazy season continues this weekend, but I worry for Ole, he could very well also lose the next game against Newcastle. The whole team need to show they belong in the top 4 or else Ole will be gone by Christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Hna Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 5 hours ago, RickG16 said: Thanks for keeping us updated. I think I'd take a trip to the dentist over watching the Nations League to be honest. You must have the heart of a mouse then cos lions support their country where you come from and if not mistaken you are an englishman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Hna Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 7 hours ago, ChipButty said: The quote was Noisy Neighbours and why do we need Poch? I dont think he ever won anything as a player never mind as a manager So come on then die hard fan who do you think should take the position? As fans you don't need to be silent and follow the papers just be a man and tell us who you think would be a good appointment? Gents let's not pretend OGS was or will ever be a good manager and let's try to move forwards. As much as it is fun seeing you fail it's old now. 7 years since you won and never been close since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangrakBob Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 (edited) 15 hours ago, ChipButty said: The quote was Noisy Neighbours and why do we need Poch? I dont think he ever won anything as a player never mind as a manager He did a great job at Spurs, with a budget of magic beans. CL final that they might have won if they didn't come up against that team, at that time. Edited October 13, 2020 by BangrakBob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jellydog Posted October 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 13, 2020 15 hours ago, ChipButty said: It might not be a long-term solution for United, but the back three worked well last season and while that was generally against big six sides, this current version of Solskjaer's team looks short of confidence and the extra protection could be vital. Right now Solskjaer needs some results to try and get the momentum back. Reverting to a back three and playing with a degree of caution might be the best way of achieving that. That backline of Bailly, Maguire, and Shaw would strike fear in the most accomplished strikers in the world. It had to be said. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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