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[Sheryl]

The whole point of being on allopurinol is to not have gout attacks. It is a preventive agent that works by lowering uric acid over time.

 

If what youhave been doing seems to work then just stop the allopurinol altogether as the way you are taking it doesn't do anything anyhow. If you would like to prevent attacks, and get your uric acid levels down to normal,  then take allopourinol regularly, under medical supervision...and/or change your diet. depending on how high the uric acid levels are, some people are able to totally control this through diet alone.

 

in addition to gout, elevated uric acid can cause kidney stones.

[grifbel]

22 hours ago, Sheryl said:

There are no scientific studies validating the sue of apple cider vinegar for gout

Appreciate your opinion and advice but have to disagree here.  The reason there are no "scientific studies" on ACV is that such "scientific" studies are almost always backed by big Pharma.  If they admitted  the effectiveness of ACV, it would cut into their bottom line.  OTOH, there are many peer reviews on  both the

 

• The effectiveness of ACV for gout. https://www.naturalarthritistreatments.net/gout/apple-cider-vineger-benefits
• The risks of allopurinol on the liver and health.  https://livertox.nih.gov/Allopurinol.htm

 

Whatever you believe, it cannot be good to be ingesting all of the chemicals (paracetamol, allopurinol, nurofen and dicloferoc) that one person in this thread claimed to be taking during a gout attack.

Keep it simple, keep it natural.

[Sheryl]

7 minutes ago, grifbel said:

Appreciate your opinion and advice but have to disagree here.  The reason there are no "scientific studies" on ACV is that such "scientific" studies are almost always backed by big Pharma.  If they admitted  the effectiveness of ACV, it would cut into their bottom line.  OTOH, there are many peer reviews on  both the

 

• The effectiveness of ACV for gout. https://www.naturalarthritistreatments.net/gout/apple-cider-vineger-benefits
• The risks of allopurinol on the liver and health.  https://livertox.nih.gov/Allopurinol.htm

 

Whatever you believe, it cannot be good to be ingesting all of the chemicals (paracetamol, allopurinol, nurofen and dicloferoc) that one person in this thread claimed to be taking during a gout attack.

Keep it simple, keep it natural.

1. Scientific studies are not "almost always" backed by pharmaceutical companies.

 

2. There are NO peer reviewed scientific studies on the use of ACV to treat gout.

 

3. If you click on the studies cited in your first link  you will find that they are not actually about ACV at all. For example "A Japanese study has demonstrated that intake of apple cider vinegar has reduced the body weight and body fat mass effectively."  but the link shows a study done in Taiwan, not Japan, that did nto in any way include ACV.

 

You need to apply some of the scepicism you have for science to "natural medicine" as well. Statements like "research has shown..."  "studies have proven..." without actual citations are often false. Supposed links and bibiography lisitngs are often to completely unrelated thinsg (as in this case). They count on readers being so eager to believe that they will not actually check out the links and citations.

 

These and similar sites are nto charitable endeavors, they are businesses that make money through ads etc.  You should be at least as wary of them as of pharmaceutical ads. Actually more so as unlike pharms there is no FDA oversight on claims etc.

 

[grifbel]

1 hour ago, Sheryl said:

1. Scientific studies are not "almost always" backed by pharmaceutical companies.

 

2. There are NO peer reviewed scientific studies on the use of ACV to treat gout.

 

3. If you click on the studies cited in your first link  you will find that they are not actually about ACV at all. For example "A Japanese study has demonstrated that intake of apple cider vinegar has reduced the body weight and body fat mass effectively."  but the link shows a study done in Taiwan, not Japan, that did nto in any way include ACV.

 

You need to apply some of the scepicism you have for science to "natural medicine" as well. Statements like "research has shown..."  "studies have proven..." without actual citations are often false. Supposed links and bibiography lisitngs are often to completely unrelated thinsg (as in this case). They count on readers being so eager to believe that they will not actually check out the links and citations.

 

These and similar sites are nto charitable endeavors, they are businesses that make money through ads etc.  You should be at least as wary of them as of pharmaceutical ads. Actually more so as unlike pharms there is no FDA oversight on claims etc.

 

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.  I agree that natural medicine should also be viewed with an equal level of due diligence to the big pharma sponsored meds, especially those with known toxicities.

 

Interesting article for you here, unless you think Scientific American is not a credible source!

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/trial-sans-error-how-pharma-funded-research-cherry-picks-positive-results/

 

 

 

Edited December 14, 2018 by grifbel

[Scott]

Off-topic post removed.