British man dies in motorbike crash on Phuket Muay Thai street, Soi Ta-iad

[CharlieH]

Off topic remark and responses to it removed.

 

A death is NOT a place for poor attempts at humor.

[terminatorchiangmai]

Did he had a license and if not when are they finally going to do something against the rental companies ?

So many accidents that can be avoided.

[NamKangMan]

5 hours ago, terminatorchiangmai said:

Did he had a license and if not when are they finally going to do something against the rental companies ?

So many accidents that can be avoided.

 

Having or not having a license is not really the issue here.

 

Due to the public transport "issue" here, everyone has to have access to a vehicle, thus, traffic is terrible here.  Statistically speaking, this increases the danger to road uses, significantly.

 

There is a reason Phuket is the worst Province in Thailand for road death, and the reason for that has nothing to do with licenses

[fisherd3]

On 1/4/2019 at 1:00 PM, Oziex1 said:

Wouldn't call a 250 a powerful bike but the nature of motorcycling leaves you vulnerable when you loose control. 

30 h.p. about 2.5 times more powerful than a Honda PCX 150. Enough ?

[Oziex1]

14 minutes ago, fisherd3 said:

30 h.p. about 2.5 times more powerful than a Honda PCX 150. Enough ?

Sure not all accidents are a result of high power, plenty loose control of low powered scooters, rider ability is a big problem to. 

[Andre0720]

8 hours ago, Pete1980 said:

 

 

Once again, we have an incident when a farang is totally responsible but the peanut gallery wants to turn it around and blame it on the Thais.

I dont even read the comments sections usually as regards to thais having road accidents because i get annoyed by the racist comments targeting ALL thais and their intellegence levels. 

 

Most thais are safe good drivers. Most Thais dont die in road accidents. 

But when a farang has an accident the posters still turn it around and blame the lovely Thai people who are our hosts and allow us to live hear.  

The number one reason that the road toll is so high is because of the amount of motorbikes which more than 80% of the deaths occur. Another reason is many travel to bangkok and other provinces so times when there are public holidays many of them travel hundreds of kms to visit their loved ones.

 

The following links are all accidents caused by westerners but each thread is full of racist comments towards our hosts.

How about we tone down the racism on thaivisa. People in glass houses. Show some respect. the thais are in the whole, very nice people.

 

 

 

"Most thais are safe good drivers. Most Thais dont die in road accidents. "

 

While you can use a few examples of non-thais causing accidents, I could easily in one day record such a high number of thai people driving in a way that shows lack of consideration for others on the roads.

 

But one thing that I agree with you, is that they are good drivers (not safe drivers), so good drivers actually that a large number of them manage to get home.

And you talk about racist comments about thais. Most dangerous country regarding road accidents. Not racist comment, just a factual one.

 

So you think that:"The number one reason that the road toll is so high is because of the amount of motorbikes which more than 80% of the deaths occur".

In my country, Cars amount for a far larger percentage of vehicles on the roads, and we do not win a prize for the largest number of car accidents in the world.

 

And as I have said before, the best way for thais to limit the number of thai bashings, is for them to stop giving so many reasons for others to do so....

 

 

 

[NamKangMan]

16 minutes ago, Oziex1 said:

Sure not all accidents are a result of high power, plenty loose control of low powered scooters, rider ability is a big problem to. 

 

I would suggest intoxication is the main cause of accidents here. 

 

There's just no proper public transport for locals, tourists, and expats to get home after having a few to drink.

[hansgruber]

Here is what happened. Gossip filters through quite fast in Thailand. 

 

He had just finished getting a tattoo a few hundred metres down the road. He had showing off and took off at speed to "impress" whoever was still at the tattoo parlor. 

People came out to hear the high revving bike and he dumped the clutch and lost control and killed himself. 

 

This is just a case of stupidity. 

Lots of testosterone flowing in that soi. Inflated egos galore. 

[roo860]

Here is what happened. Gossip filters through quite fast in Thailand. 
 
He had just finished getting a tattoo a few hundred metres down the road. He had showing off and took off at speed to "impress" whoever was still at the tattoo parlor. 
People came out to hear the high revving bike and he dumped the clutch and lost control and killed himself. 
 
This is just a case of stupidity. 
Lots of testosterone flowing in that soi. Inflated egos galore. 

32yrs old, what he did was what we used to do as teenagers with motorbikes to impress the girls, but fortunately not the unhappy ending.

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[The Old Bull]

I never ride anywhere at night that I haven't ridden in the daytime and memorised the location of all the pot holes.

[terminatorchiangmai]

17 hours ago, NamKangMan said:

 

Having or not having a license is not really the issue here.

 

Due to the public transport "issue" here, everyone has to have access to a vehicle, thus, traffic is terrible here.  Statistically speaking, this increases the danger to road uses, significantly.

 

There is a reason Phuket is the worst Province in Thailand for road death, and the reason for that has nothing to do with licenses

Having a license and experience makes a lot of difference.

To many people step on a bike here big or small and not have any experience driving one.

[NamKangMan]

1 hour ago, terminatorchiangmai said:

Having a license and experience makes a lot of difference.

To many people step on a bike here big or small and not have any experience driving one.

 

And why do you think they get on the bike in the first place????

 

How many of them would take a Bangkok style metered taxi, particularly after drinking, or a Pattaya style baht bus, which works well in Pattaya? 

 

These options don't exist here, so, people ride when then they shouldn't, either due to inexperience, but particularly when they are intoxicated. 

 

With tuk-tuk prices exceeding the cost of food and beverage for a night out, it's understandable, yet I do not condone it, that people will ride intoxicated, with tragic consequences for many.

[LivinginKata]

1 hour ago, NamKangMan said:

And why do you think they get on the bike in the first place????

 

Because it makes the young bloods so macho ...

1 hour ago, NamKangMan said:

How many of them would take a Bangkok style metered taxi, particularly after drinking, or a Pattaya style baht bus, which works well in Pattaya ?

 

Pattaya is a city. Phuket is an island with very spread out localities. Would work out for Patong  or Phuket Town but not for Rawai. 

[stevenl]

12 minutes ago, LivinginKata said:

 

Because it makes the young bloods so macho ...

 

Pattaya is a city. Phuket is an island with very spread out localities. Would work out for Patong  or Phuket Town but not for Rawai. 

Yes, there are no motorbike accidents involving tourist machos in Pattaya.

 

NKM doesn't deserve a reasonable answer anymore.

Edited January 6, 2019 by stevenl

[marqus12]

40 minutes ago, LivinginKata said:

 

Because it makes the young bloods so macho ...

 

Pattaya is a city. Phuket is an island with very spread out localities. Would work out for Patong  or Phuket Town but not for Rawai. 

penang is an island of similar size to phuket and transport is based on air-conditioned buses and much less scooters than on phuket

public transport can be organized everywhere just not on phuket...
your girl's father has a tuk-tuk or it is selfless opinion?

[ChipButty]

Im sure people take risk when drunk, lots of our guest complain about the price of taxi's and tuk tuk there is no alternative, apart from walking which can also be dangerous at night 

[sandrabbit]

If you look at the back tyre the profile looks almost flat as if it's been ridden upright most of the time and it looks well beyond the time it should have been changed along with the front tyre, wouldn't like to have ridden that in the wet. 

[NamKangMan]

2 hours ago, ChipButty said:

Im sure people take risk when drunk, lots of our guest complain about the price of taxi's and tuk tuk there is no alternative, apart from walking which can also be dangerous at night 

 

"lots of our guest complain about the price of taxi's and tuk tuk there is no alternative" - have a look at the tourist demographic here now. 

 

Western tourists do have an "alternative" and it is now clear that they see other destinations as their "alternative" as Phuket refused to address its transport issues. 

[NamKangMan]

3 hours ago, LivinginKata said:

 

Because it makes the young bloods so macho ...

 

Pattaya is a city. Phuket is an island with very spread out localities. Would work out for Patong  or Phuket Town but not for Rawai. 

 

"Because it makes the young bloods so macho" - have you seen the ages of the deceased????

 

Many of them are not so young.

 

"Would work out for Patong  or Phuket Town but not for Rawai.: - sure, Patong to Rawai would need connecting baht buses, but the Pattaya to Jomtien baht buses are very popular.

 

Patong to Kata would be just as easy to implement. 

[NamKangMan]

3 hours ago, stevenl said:

Yes, there are no motorbike accidents involving tourist machos in Pattaya.

 

NKM doesn't deserve a reasonable answer anymore.

 

"NKM doesn't deserve a reasonable answer anymore." - and you do????

 

You are the biggest Phuket apologist on the forum, but then again, you have a conflict of interest, due to having a business here. 

[NamKangMan]

3 hours ago, marqus12 said:

penang is an island of similar size to phuket and transport is based on air-conditioned buses and much less scooters than on phuket

public transport can be organized everywhere just not on phuket...
your girl's father has a tuk-tuk or it is selfless opinion?

 

Yes, it's not rocket science, is it?

 

If you want a prosperous tourism industry, you have to supply the essential service of transport.

 

Anyway, we are now really seeing the results of not addressing this issue for so long.

[donim]

7 hours ago, terminatorchiangmai said:

Having a license and experience makes a lot of difference.

To many people step on a bike here big or small and not have any experience driving one.

Well... in many "Western countries'' people have license but no experience.

Here, no license, but heck they are experienced ! (As someone said: 'good drivers, not about safe driving')

 

So.. learn young , die old.

[donim]

On 1/5/2019 at 5:39 PM, NamKangMan said:

 

Having or not having a license is not really the issue here.

 

Due to the public transport "issue" here, everyone has to have access to a vehicle, thus, traffic is terrible here.  Statistically speaking, this increases the danger to road uses, significantly.

 

There is a reason Phuket is the worst Province in Thailand for road death, and the reason for that has nothing to do with licenses

Don't know really.. but my experience is that Phuket have 'public' transport. Very little are governmental.  Whey I go to Rawai, I take the government bus from the airport to town. (100B) and from there to rawai with a songtaew (30B).   There are songtaew going all directions to all the beachs in the west and along the east shore. And locally you could find small transportation which can bring you into rurals and long sois.

 

Never saw fresh foreigners using these services, just a few who are 'locals' and coming back from the morning markets.

 

That Brit has a unfortunately accident, perhaps showing off or a pothole or cramp in his arm, never good to end like this. Nothing to do with motorbike as accident can happen on busses, walking, or sitting on the back of a cabby. Just bad luck bad moment bad location.

 

Rgds,

[stevenl]

1 hour ago, donim said:

Don't know really.. but my experience is that Phuket have 'public' transport. Very little are governmental.  Whey I go to Rawai, I take the government bus from the airport to town. (100B) and from there to rawai with a songtaew (30B).   There are songtaew going all directions to all the beachs in the west and along the east shore. And locally you could find small transportation which can bring you into rurals and long sois.

 

Never saw fresh foreigners using these services, just a few who are 'locals' and coming back from the morning markets.

 

That Brit has a unfortunately accident, perhaps showing off or a pothole or cramp in his arm, never good to end like this. Nothing to do with motorbike as accident can happen on busses, walking, or sitting on the back of a cabby. Just bad luck bad moment bad location.

 

Rgds,

You can now take Phuket smart bus directly from airport to Rawai.

[ChipButty]

10 hours ago, stevenl said:

You can now take Phuket smart bus directly from airport to Rawai.

Seems pretty much on time everyday for 170 Baht to the airport not bad at all,

[NamKangMan]

On 1/6/2019 at 11:03 PM, donim said:

Don't know really.. but my experience is that Phuket have 'public' transport. Very little are governmental.  Whey I go to Rawai, I take the government bus from the airport to town. (100B) and from there to rawai with a songtaew (30B).   There are songtaew going all directions to all the beachs in the west and along the east shore. And locally you could find small transportation which can bring you into rurals and long sois.

 

Never saw fresh foreigners using these services, just a few who are 'locals' and coming back from the morning markets.

 

That Brit has a unfortunately accident, perhaps showing off or a pothole or cramp in his arm, never good to end like this. Nothing to do with motorbike as accident can happen on busses, walking, or sitting on the back of a cabby. Just bad luck bad moment bad location.

 

Rgds,

 

There seems to be a lot of "bad luck" on the roads here, particularly between the hours of 11am and 3am.  

 

Maybe this is the time of day when most people suffer from "a cramp in the brain."  ????