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2 hours ago, StreetCowboy said:

You can put forward whatever speculation you like, but at 97, he's got a bigger set of statistics in his favour than most of us.

The Royal Household has it's own medical team headed by Prof Huw Thomas, Shure he only has to ask for an aspirin and he will have a medical team giving him a check up with in minutes.

 

He certainly looks a lot fitter than most people of his age an is looking good to surpass a ton. 

Are seat belt infractions a primary offense in the UK (where a driver can be pulled over specifically for that violation), or a secondary offense (where nobody's pulled over for seat belt infractions but they can be cited for not wearing the seat belt if they are pulled over for something else)?

 

Apologies if "primary" and "secondary" aren't the correct terminology across the pond...

 

17 hours ago, webfact said:

Debris is seen at the scene where Britain's Prince Philip was involved in a traffic accident, near the Sandringham estate in eastern England, Britain, January 18, 2019. REUTERS/Chris Radburn

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Prince Philip crash: Debris for sale on eBay

Debris said to be from a crash involving the Duke of Edinburgh was put up for sale on eBay.

Seller morbius777 said the debris was from the collision near King's Lynn, Norfolk, on Thursday.

The listing, which has now been removed, said it "may even have Phil's DNA on it, if you wanted to clone him".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-46944912

I have asked for my money back, the part of a wing mirror sent to me was from a Ford Kia. ????

21 minutes ago, impulse said:

Are seat belt infractions a primary offense in the UK (where a driver can be pulled over specifically for that violation), or a secondary offense (where nobody's pulled over for seat belt infractions but they can be cited for not wearing the seat belt if they are pulled over for something else)?

 

Apologies if "primary" and "secondary" aren't the correct terminology across the pond...

 

Can be pulled over if observed. If you ever get the opportunity to watch "The Police Interceptors" fly on the wall documentary series, they often pull people over for not belting up.

5 minutes ago, Basil B said:

Can be pulled over if observed. If you ever get the opportunity to watch "The Interceptors" fly on the wall documentary series, they often pull people over for not belting up.

 

The reason I asked:

 

U.S. seatbelt laws may be subject to primary enforcement or secondary enforcement. ... In 15 of the 50 states, the seat belt law is considered asecondary offense, which means that a police officer cannot stop and ticket a driver for the sole offense of not wearing a seatbelt.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seat_belt_laws_in_the_United_States

2 minutes ago, impulse said:

Are seat belt infractions a primary offense in the UK (where a driver can be pulled over specifically for that violation), or a secondary offense (where nobody's pulled over for seat belt infractions but they can be cited for not wearing the seal belt if they are pulled over for something else)?

 

In the UK a police officer can require the driver of any vehicle to stop, at any time, and for any reason - even just to check that all documents are in order.

 

Any traffic violations can be dealt with by arrest, ticket, summons, or just a warning/advice.

 

Searching the vehicle or driver would require some reasonable suspicion that criminal offences are being committed.

 

Of course, in the UK, police officers are expected to use their powers moderately and appropriately.

Sorry but just found more topic related trivia...

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As the Queen traveled to Westminster this week for the State Opening of Parliament, one eagle-eyed observer noticed she wasn't wearing her seat belt as she rode in the rear of the car.

This observer then decided that such a flagrant, public flouting road safety regulations ought not go unpunished - and so dialed 999.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/23/someone-reported-queen-police-wasnt-wearing-seat-belt/

 

5 minutes ago, chickenslegs said:

Of course, in the UK, police officers are expected to use their powers moderately and appropriately.

 

Jeez... What fun is that?

My father, who's well into his 80s now but still has his wits about him, gave up his driver's license voluntarily some years ago, because he realized at his advancing age, he wasn't so sharp for driving any more.

 

I'm just guessing, but I'd imagine the population of safe 97-year-old drivers is pretty small.

 

5 minutes ago, Basil B said:

Sorry but just found more topic related trivia...

 

 

6 minutes ago, Basil B said:

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As the Queen traveled to Westminster this week for the State Opening of Parliament, one eagle-eyed observer noticed she wasn't wearing her seat belt as she rode in the rear of the car.

This observer then decided that such a flagrant, public flouting road safety regulations ought not go unpunished - and so dialed 999.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/23/someone-reported-queen-police-wasnt-wearing-seat-belt/

1) 999 is the number reserved for emergencies in the UK. The pratt who used it to report HM not wearing a seat belt was (potentially) preventing a real emergency from being reported, and should be prosecuted.

2) UK seat belt legislation (rear seats) applies to vehicles manufactured on or after 1987. I do not know which vehicle HM was riding in, but she owns many that are much older than this. Maybe this vehicle was exempt from the seat belt rules (I don't know).

3) In any case, a royal procession from Buck Palace to the HoP is just a ceremonial display and a chance for the public (and tourists) to wave at HM. 5-10mph and escorted by a division of the Household Cavalry - not much chance of a serious traffic accident (the exception being the IRA terrorist attack in 1982).

No seatbelts. String them up!

 

And nab the Obamas while you're at it!

woo hoo!  - souvenir shrapnel!  just need to sort out the Korean DNA from the cache...

get more interest than SkyLab

8 hours ago, chickenslegs said:

1) 999 is the number reserved for emergencies in the UK. The pratt who used it to report HM not wearing a seat belt was (potentially) preventing a real emergency from being reported, and should be prosecuted.

 

If he saw a crime in progress he should have made a citizen's arrest.

 

sad what the world is coming to where people waste emergency services time with such trivial matters

To many hero medals on his chest to get a seat belt on ????

On 1/21/2019 at 10:00 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

I assumed that he would always have a protection detail with him, so why did they let him drive with no seat belt, and besides that, why is a 97 year old man with a history of health problems allowed to drive on a public road anyway? IMO it's insanity, and just asking for a problem like that. 

Should ANY 97 year old be allowed to drive on a public road?

Steady on, he still has hair on his chest (so I believe) and besides, if you were fit and healthy and 97 wouldn't you like to be independent of public transport?? ????

Can't the Prince of Britain afford his own personal driver???

 

At 97, he ought to be leaving that kind of thing to his staff/aides....

 

Does the Queen drive herself around?  Don't think so!

 

On 1/20/2019 at 11:33 PM, webfact said:

Prince Philip received a warning from police after he was photographed apparently driving without a seat belt,

No fines then? Oh well, different rules for influential people...

well at least we realize the difference between influential and rich?

On 1/21/2019 at 10:17 AM, ballpoint said:

If he does it again they should detain him at his wife's pleasure.

Too late for her to end that idea.

2 hours ago, VocalNeal said:

well at least we realize the difference between influential and rich?

On 1/20/2019 at 11:33 PM, webfact said:

"We are aware of the photographs," a police spokesman said. "Suitable words of advice have been given to the driver and this is in line with our standard response when being made aware of our receiving such images showing this type of offence."

I am sure if that were not true the press would be full of examples.

 

and the following explains why...

 

So Phillip goes to court?

 

Who appoints all the judges?

6 hours ago, sammieuk1 said:

To many hero medals on his chest to get a seat belt on ????

 pity... wrong guess!

 

he was in reality a ww2 naval officer on Active Duty, in actual theatres of war! 

as such you might then learn his medals are by protocol, worn on his Left side chest.

which I know myself do not hinder a seatbelt (assuming you are also driving in the Right seat as he does)

 

if you want to see hero medals/fake medals/tin medals; go visit anzmi.net ????

27 minutes ago, VocalNeal said:

So Phillip goes to court?

 

Who appoints all the judges?

But back in 2002, Princess Anne was fined £500 and forced to pay compensation after pleading guilty to a charge of her dog attacking children.

And in 2001, she was fined for speeding in her Bentley after admitting to driving 93mph in a 70mph zone.

She was the first member of the royal family to plead guilty to a criminal offence.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/can-members-royal-family-arrested-police-2-101210449.html?guccounter=1

15 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

At 97, he ought to be leaving that kind of thing to his staff/aides...

I don't blame him , at 97 it must be very boring to be alive. 

 

This is his form of excitement , having fun in the traffic. 

6 hours ago, balo said:

I don't blame him , at 97 it must be very boring to be alive. 

 

This is his form of excitement , having fun in the traffic. 

 

Maybe fun for him, but not so fun for those around him...

 

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Philip was unhurt, although shaken in the crash. The other driver, a 28-year-old woman, suffered cuts to her knee and a 45-year-old woman passenger in the car, which also had a nine-month-old baby on board, sustained a broken wrist. They were taken to hospital but later released.

 

6 hours ago, balo said:

at 97 it must be very boring to be alive. 

 

Not many have realized this. They all worry about PM2.5 particles, Thai road safety and wish to live forever.

7 hours ago, balo said:

I don't blame him , at 97 it must be very boring to be alive. 

 

This is his form of excitement , having fun in the traffic. 

He does like his shooting but has a problem telling the difference between a Pheasant and a peasant.

(particularly the Press spices of peasant)