Source of income refused by immigration

[Mann33bkk]

Went to Chaeng Wattana today for my extention based on marriage. Wanted to try the 40 000 transfered from abroad method. But immigration told me it could not be used as source of income, as my embassy still give guarantee of my pension. I really not understand why they refuse to let me use that method to show my income. 

[ubonjoe]

At this time that may be up to the discretion of the immigration officer in charge.

Did you have a full year of international transfers to show?

[sfokevin]

What country are your from?... 

[Mann33bkk]

4 minutes ago, sfokevin said:

What country are your from?... 

Norway. So I got told by immigration to go to the embassy and get the income guarantee from them

[luckyluke]

Would that mean that the monthly transfers of 40/65000 system is only accessible for the 4 countries which can not obtain a L. o. I. anymore?

Or the interpretation of 1 officer? 

 

 

 

[ubonjoe]

2 minutes ago, luckyluke said:

Would that mean that the monthly transfers of 40/65000 system is only accessible for 4 countries?

Not according to the rules.

But if a person did not a full year of transfers I can see immigration telling people to get income proof from their embassy.

[Mann33bkk]

32 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

At this time that may be up to the discretion of the immigration officer in charge.

Did you have a full year of international transfers to show?

Yes, I had a full year of transactions meeting the requirement for extention. The bank letter shows detail every transaction from abroad. I did complain on the spot, and was advised to  boss in the L section. She spoke a lot about I could not use this type of income. Only letter from embassy or 400 000 in the account for 2 months prior to extention

[luckyluke]

So each office/officer can interpret the rules as wanted. 

Nothing new here. 

[scubascuba3]

worrying how random the processing here is

[luckyluke]

The word was that the Austrian Consulate in Pattaya would lose a lot of money if the expats of Austria, Belgium, Holland, Germany won't need a L. o. I. anymore (+/- 1600 Thb), but a letter of the bank with bankbook would be sufficient. 

Not so far apparently. 

Wait & See. 

 

 

[wgdanson]

48 minutes ago, Mann33bkk said:

Norway. So I got told by immigration to go to the embassy and get the income guarantee from them

So let's get this straight. If your Embassy will still issue a letter you must go there. If your Embassy WILL NOT issue a letter, your bank and the IO do it. 

[indepth]

59 minutes ago, wgdanson said:

So let's get this straight. If your Embassy will still issue a letter you must go there. If your Embassy WILL NOT issue a letter, your bank and the IO do it. 

???

[wgdanson]

If your Embassy will still issue a letter you must go there. If your Embassy WILL NOT issue a letter, your bank and the IO do it. 

 

Why the ???? s

[wgdanson]

4 minutes ago, indepth said:

???

If your Embassy will still issue a letter you must go there. If your Embassy WILL NOT issue a letter, your bank and the IO do it. 

 

Why the ???s                        Sorry for the repeat.

[phutoie2]

This is ridiculous, Big Joke needs to sort it, you cannot have rules for 4 embassies and rules for others. 

[DrJack54]

Makes perfect sense to me. The 4 embassies that stopped "letters" Thai imm have been very helpful in accepting bank statements etc to show their 40/65. For other countries business as usual. More work for io to check bank statements. Letter from embassy.. PERFECT. Why would anyone think that because 4 cannot use LETTER then all other nationals can just use statements

[DrJack54]

8 minutes ago, phutoie2 said:

This is ridiculous, Big Joke needs to sort it, you cannot have rules for 4 embassies and rules for others. 

Why not. Its their country. Or would you prefer that they say for 4 embassies concerned we will only accept money in bank 400/800k

BTW its not up to the joker, he doesn't have a hand in it

[scubascuba3]

Thai imm have been very helpful in accepting bank statements etc to show their 40/65.

A bit premature aren't you, lots of misinterpretations of the rules will be applied over the next 12 months

[DrJack54]

4 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

 

 

A bit premature aren't you, lots of misinterpretations of the rules will be applied over the next 12 months

 

Agree completely. That's why easy for Thai to just put line through income method. They say they will be flexible but already different results at different local. No offense towards the io,s but seriously they are clerks with need for narrow boundaries. Would anyone seriously be surprised if io,s here and there find it all too hard and make income method difficult for extensions. 

[Aforek]

3 hours ago, luckyluke said:

The word was that the Austrian Consulate in Pattaya would lose a lot of money if the expats of Austria, Belgium, Holland, Germany won't need a L. o. I. anymore (+/- 1600 Thb), but a letter of the bank with bankbook would be sufficient. 

Not so far apparently. 

Wait & See. 

 

 

French people , too, ( many in Pattaya ) have their letter from the Austrian consulate ; you say 1600 bahts ? very much money !

[Felt 35]

At the beginning when this new requirements/opportunities for what income prove Immigration accept and theories that all embassies would follow prompt those who now do not give out confirmation of income anymore a TV member had a theory in the line of that this new regulation could be a coordination between foreign embassies and the imigrations in Thailand for the possibility to get better control over who and what each individual use as income prove and why and also easier on both sides to prevent money laundering and to control illegal entries... I don't know but wonder if there are some truth in that TV members theory.....????

[luckyluke]

3 hours ago, Aforek said:

you say 1600 bahts ? very much money !

Paid 1560 Thb the 29.01. ( Euro low). 

 

 

[lamyai3]

54 minutes ago, luckyluke said:

Paid 1560 Thb the 29.01. ( Euro low). 

Quite a bit cheaper than the UK one, while the embassy still did them. 

[keithet]

I hope imagration finds this new monthly income proces difficult. And see how easy it was to look at 1 piece of paper from embassy. 

Be nice if by the first quarter the embassies start the letters again. I for one would be happy to show proof of the income stated in the letter. 

[phutoie2]

9 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

Why not. Its their country. Or would you prefer that they say for 4 embassies concerned we will only accept money in bank 400/800k

BTW its not up to the joker, he doesn't have a hand in it

you need to read the amendment to the Police order about income again, and as far as I am aware BJ is still in charge of Immigration.

Another Mr Thailand on TVF.

[a977]

11 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

Why not. Its their country. Or would you prefer that they say for 4 embassies concerned we will only accept money in bank 400/800k

BTW its not up to the joker, he doesn't have a hand in it

Well as the head honcho of Immigration if he can't sort it then who the bloody hell can? After all he is the Boss and they are his underlings, they should be told to read the police order and it's amendments and proceed accordingly. As for Jomtien Immigration they will only accept 800,000 in the bank for Aussies, so go figure. 

[jacko45k]

11 hours ago, phutoie2 said:

This is ridiculous, Big Joke needs to sort it, you cannot have rules for 4 embassies and rules for others. 

Well the rules, regulations and amendments or whatever certainly do not state as such and it appears this office is simply requiring it as an incorrect interpretation, or to make their job easier. 

[Ahab]

My backup plan is to get another multiple entry non-immigrant O visa and start saving the 400,000 baht for an extension based on marriage (currently on an extension based on retirement). Hopefully Buriram immigration will accept the income coming into my Bangkok Bank account each and every month (with an FTT code).

[scorecard]

12 hours ago, phutoie2 said:

This is ridiculous, Big Joke needs to sort it, you cannot have rules for 4 embassies and rules for others. 

 

 

Strange that so many TV folks look for any and all opportunities to belittle the general, then suddenly a demand that he should sort it out. 

[ubonjoe]

6 minutes ago, Ahab said:

Hopefully Buriram immigration will accept the income coming into my Bangkok Bank account each and every month (with an FTT code).

They will accept it if it is 40k baht or more coming in every month.