Frenchwoman deported for vaping

[RichardColeman]

should have said it was a tampon

[Vacuum]

1 hour ago, Terek said:

to be precise, is there really a law that prohibits carrying or using vape in Thailand? this looks more like some police officers scam. selling, importing is another matter

Catching them would include some legwork.....

[Ctkong]

Those policemen are not better than uniformed sanctioned enforcer. Once you were caught in a crime, the sharks would circle you , smelling blood, and evaluating how much to skim off you. Since they are atheist ‘first responder’ to you, they have the first pick. The rest will pick off slowly as you travel along the system. 

Predators.. all of them.  Somebody should enlighten the Frenchwoman of the culture here and advise her to negotiate down the fine ( brown envelope) and settle it there and then. Once it got to the station, more mouths to feed and less room to maneuver.  

[Ctkong]

40 minutes ago, finnishmen said:

welcome to idiotland monkeys home.there have only idiots what make ewery week new stupid laws.

It IS their country and up to them to make their stupid law according to their culture or tradition. People can always vote with their feet or wallet. Nobody is forcing a gun on you to come. 

[BritManToo]

2 minutes ago, Ctkong said:

Those policemen are not better than uniformed sanctioned enforcer. Once you were caught in a crime, the sharks would circle you , smelling blood, and evaluating how much to skim off you. Since they are atheist ‘first responder’ to you, they have the first pick. The rest will pick off slowly as you travel along the system. 

The bad news being, if you're over 50 they will assume you have 800k in the bank.

It's only a matter of time before the police realise that.

[Vacuum]

7 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

The bad news being, if you're over 50 they will assume you have 800k in the bank.

It's only a matter of time before the police realise that.

Good point.

[Vacuum]

21 minutes ago, Ctkong said:

They can use THC infused liquid in vaping... 

Ok, didn't know that. I prefer my "THC" handrolled...

[473geo]

5 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Really ??? Good Riddance for 'having a vape'...  Perhaps you would have them bring back the guillotine?

 

Really, some of the responses on this thread are so extreme I question the mental stability of those posting such vitriolic comments. 

 

She had a vape.. thats it, she wasn't DUI or hurting anyone... Its just a Vape... Get real guys !!! your comments make you look completely imbalanced and insane... 

So she broke the law - fined circa 800 baht and as her visa had expired due to insisting on a court date rather than pay a local fine it cost her more in re-arranged flights and accommodation than the original (as it turns out) cheaper option

 

If you park in the wrong place in other countries - only parking for 10 minutes not hurting anyone, your vehicle gets towed, you pay your transport costs to the pound, you pay a fine and towing costs, if you are delayed you pay storage, if you do not pay the fees the car is not returned.

Some guys here are rather blind to the 'extortion' going on in their own countries under the guise of being the law and for the well being of the people

I say to those same guys she broke the law of the land - she is bound to accept the consequences - as she and they would be bound to do in their own countries

 

Harsh - maybe - but how much leeway for a Thai tourist unwittingly parked in the wrong place in London!!

 

 

 

[richard_smith237]

46 minutes ago, sawadee1947 said:

2 hours ago, sawadee1947 said:

I know English is not your first language

Well, I'm sorry, probably it's my Limerick background. If it's not English I'm very proud 

I wrote that (despite your mis-quote).... My Apologies, I assumed English was not your first language based on your apparent comprehension (and spelling of Ridiculous) - Perhaps Celtic is your first language in which case your misunderstanding of my comments is understandable. 

 

I too would be proud to be Irish - in fact, part is (my Grandmother was Irish, but I usually try to keep that a secret !!)...  I'd have been less proud to be Irish on the 2nd Feb in the Aviva Stadium, but come 16th March I'll be rooting for Ireland to drop the hammer on Wales at the Millennium Stadium... 

 

(All in good jest....)...

 

 

 

Edited February 28, 2019 by richard_smith237

[Odysseus123]

7 minutes ago, I am More Thai Than You said:

One wonders what else actually happened here. Perhaps another farang spewing out their ethnocentric views. 

Splendid stuff..!

 

..and now for another short break provided by our sponsors..

 

"I am More Thai Than You"...hmmm..

Edited February 28, 2019 by Odysseus123

[richard_smith237]

2 minutes ago, I am More Thai Than You said:

One wonders what else actually happened here. Perhaps another farang spewing out their ethnocentric views. 

She was stopped and searched and an attempted extortion of 40,000 baht was made. 

Ultimately she was fined 8xx by the courts and deported. 

 

I'm not sure what the reason for deporting her was. Perhaps the legal case took a sufficient length of time to outlast her visa. 

 

Either way....  Are you on the right topic? Ethnocentric views ????? where did that come from?

[DrTuner]

I'm still waiting for somebody to point out the exact law that prohibits portable liquid heaters. Nicotine is covered by substance acts, but batteries, coils, cotton and baking ingredients? 

[richard_smith237]

3 minutes ago, DrTuner said:

I'm still waiting for somebody to point out the exact law that prohibits portable liquid heaters. Nicotine is covered by substance acts, but batteries, coils, cotton and baking ingredients? 

You make a very good point.

 

I'm wondering how the courts would see it, if used as a defense. Of course the Vaping machine (or whatever its called) would have to be empty with no nicotine based produce in its reservoir for such a defense to be valid. 

 

[Ctkong]

11 minutes ago, 473geo said:

So she broke the law - fined circa 800 baht and as her visa had expired due to insisting on a court date rather than pay a local fine it cost her more in re-arranged flights and accommodation than the original (as it turns out) cheaper option

 

If you park in the wrong place in other countries - only parking for 10 minutes not hurting anyone, your vehicle gets towed, you pay your transport costs to the pound, you pay a fine and towing costs, if you are delayed you pay storage, if you do not pay the fees the car is not returned.

Some guys here are rather blind to the 'extortion' going on in their own countries under the guise of being the law and for the well being of the people

I say to those same guys she broke the law of the land - she is bound to accept the consequences - as she and they would be bound to do in their own countries

 

Harsh - maybe - but how much leeway for a Thai tourist unwittingly parked in the wrong place in London!!

 

 

 

I got a friend who went holidaying in Australia. Rent a car using his credit card and self drive. Did not know the rules of the area well so ‘triggered ’ many toll charges without the card. End story was he got a huge surprise when his credit card showed the rental agency billed him all the fines being paid .

[BritManToo]

41 minutes ago, Ctkong said:

They can use THC infused liquid in vaping... 

I just put cannabis in mine, no need to grind or mix with tobacco either.

You can use herbal (cough cannabis cough), wax or liquids in them.

https://www.leafly.com/products/vaping

 

Not while I'm in Thailand of course.

Edited February 28, 2019 by BritManToo

[473geo]

1 minute ago, richard_smith237 said:

You make a very good point.

 

I'm wondering how the courts would see it, if used as a defense. Of course the Vaping machine (or whatever its called) would have to be empty with no nicotine based produce in its reservoir for such a defense to be valid. 

 

800 baht that's how the court sees it!

Unfortunately if she were to appeal the costs would run substantially higher - Principles can cost evidenced by this chain of events - and to what end!!

[473geo]

3 minutes ago, Ctkong said:

I got a friend who went holidaying in Australia. Rent a car using his credit card and self drive. Did not know the rules of the area well so ‘triggered ’ many toll charges without the card. End story was he got a huge surprise when his credit card showed the rental agency billed him all the fines being paid .

I suspect he wasn't deported - they were extracting loads of revenue - all legal of course ????

[Odysseus123]

1 minute ago, 473geo said:

I suspect he wasn't deported - they were extracting loads of revenue - all legal of course ????

As they do-there is a clear warning in the contract.

 

Must have gone thru every toll in Australia-and then some..

 

Having been thru this procedure quite recently with a German friend it was certainly emphasized verbally as well.

[473geo]

5 minutes ago, Odysseus123 said:

As they do-there is a clear warning in the contract.

 

Must have gone thru every toll in Australia-and then some..

 

Having been thru this procedure quite recently with a German friend it was certainly emphasized verbally as well.

Well that's ok then - I know there is no vaping in Thailand - it has been made very clear so the French tourist should have been aware - is that how your thinking works? Not 'extortion' then she broke the law - right?

Edited February 28, 2019 by 473geo

[I am More Thai Than You]

22 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

She was stopped and searched and an attempted extortion of 40,000 baht was made. 

Ultimately she was fined 8xx by the courts and deported. 

 

I'm not sure what the reason for deporting her was. Perhaps the legal case took a sufficient length of time to outlast her visa. 

 

Either way....  Are you on the right topic? Ethnocentric views ????? where did that come from?

What part of what was written are you struggling to comprehend? How about we simplify this for the simpletons....

Now I have you, ponder this. Perhaps she carried on like a right upstart and things quickly escalated? Sometimes you need to read between the lines. Hard I guess when you take as gospel all you read here on TV.

[Odysseus123]

2 minutes ago, 473geo said:

Well that's ok then - I know there is no vaping in Thailand - it has been made very clear so the French tourist should have been aware - is that how your thinking works? Not 'extortion' then she broke the law - right?

Eh?

 

My intention was the exact opposite.

 

I suspect that the story told by the poster and to which you responded, is pure fiction.

[Odysseus123]

1 minute ago, I am More Thai Than You said:

What part of what was written are you struggling to comprehend? How about we simplify this for the simpletons....

Now I have you, ponder this. Perhaps she carried on like a right upstart and things quickly escalated? Sometimes you need to read between the lines. Hard I guess when you take as gospel all you read here on TV.

Oh..it's you again..

 

Let me guess..Irish?From Limerick?

[473geo]

Just now, Odysseus123 said:

Eh?

 

My intention was the exact opposite.

 

I suspect that the story told by the poster and to which you responded, is pure fiction.

Pure 'extortion'  taking advantage of a visitor to your country

[I am More Thai Than You]

29 minutes ago, Odysseus123 said:

Splendid stuff..!

 

..and now for another short break provided by our sponsors..

 

"I am More Thai Than You"...hmmm..

I would bet my house, wife, 3 dogs and my 2nd kik on the fact you are not Thai. Therefore the point you are trying to make is very poor. In fact I would suggest you are of the same race as I? Hmmm.. 

[Ctkong]

19 minutes ago, 473geo said:

I suspect he wasn't deported - they were extracting loads of revenue - all legal of course ????

Ha ha.. he already left the country by then. The bill came later via his credit card statement. 

[Odysseus123]

2 minutes ago, I am More Thai Than You said:

I would bet my house, wife, 3 dogs and my 2nd kik on the fact you are not Thai. Therefore the point you are trying to make is very poor. In fact I would suggest you are of the same race as I? Hmmm.. 

I am very sure that you entertain the notion that you are more Thai than me.It is a notion that you are most welcome to..

 

But..I thought you were Irish,eh?

[DrTuner]

35 minutes ago, DrTuner said:

I'm still waiting for somebody to point out the exact law that prohibits portable liquid heaters. Nicotine is covered by substance acts, but batteries, coils, cotton and baking ingredients? 

Ah, there was one post pointing to the applicable law:

So the excise tax law. 'goods that have not been taxed'. And the problem then would be the e-juice, as batteries and other electronic gear can be taxed. And to be specific, the nicotine in the e-juice - but that means locally produced e-juices where the tax for the liquid nicotine has been paid would be ok. So is it's Thai liquid should negate all of that, eh?

[oldhippy]

3 hours ago, sawadee1947 said:

It's Rediculous that you obviously want to have your own law in a foreign country. 

I admit you cannot see a sense in this law, however you would be well advised to follow existing laws if you want to stay here. 

I agree with what you say about vaporizers.

A court fine of 827 baht is therefore perfectly acceptable.

 

However, this story is much more about an attempt of 40.000 baht extortion.

And about the revenge for not getting that 40.000 / exposing the scam.

 

[I am More Thai Than You]

20 minutes ago, Odysseus123 said:

Oh..it's you again..

 

Let me guess..Irish?From Limerick?

Oh dear. 

[AjarnRichard]

I have lived here in Thailand for 9 years, and I have never heard that vaping is illegal.  I don't use a vape or even smoke, but now I am glad I don't!  I wonder if tourist receive any notice on entry that vaping is illegal?