simple1 Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Thairealist said: It all depends on how you quantify as an immigrant. From your own reference, only 44.9% of London’s population is white. However they in turn, if you go back generations,were also immigrants. The problem stems from the fact that, those that people think of as immigrants, have only consisted of a large % of the whole population over the last 50-60 years. And maybe that’s the problem, if there had been a trickle of immigration over the years, they may have integrated and therefore been accepted to a greater degree than is the case now. As it is, over these last 50-60 there has been a deluge of immigrants, so that now London is not recognised by many as a British City. What's the criteria for a 'British City'. IMO London meets the criteria as the centre for Britishness, centre for HMG, Royal Family, cathedrals, internationally recognised centres of excellence for museums, galleries, music etc etc, all demonstrating the traditions of London. Edited June 4, 2019 by simple1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRS1301 Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 14 hours ago, Loiner said: Not really, if it is because he thinks that islamic terrorism is something we should be prepared for as part and parcel of living in a major city. Didn't you get the impression he kinda condoned that? He's not so hot on sorting out the acid attacks or knife crime in our capital either, both of which are have strong racial overtones that he ignores. Sorting out knife attacks and acid attacks are the responsibility of police and other agencies. He has often spoken out against radicals, and let us remember that these attacks are carried out by a minority of Muslims. Some also forget about the attacks carried out by white supremacists, equally as disgusting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Thakkar Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 16 hours ago, RJRS1301 said: Gosh I am astounded at the outright racism expressed against the Mr Khan, and as for the religious slurs, it is very scary in the 21st century. I agree. But I have no sympathies remaining to offer you, as all my sympathies have gone to the long-suffering moderators who have to slog through—and remove—much worse than what we see here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtls2005 Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 Not sure what name-calling accomplishes, other than to display one's own inadequacies? "Stone-Cold" really only goes with Steve Austin, or killer. Loser doesn't really make sense. But this seems to be the hallmark of the president and his staff. He's said to denigrate jared by calling him a "girl", to others obviously. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thakkar Posted June 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 5, 2019 13 hours ago, Loiner said: I agree with Donald, for speaking the truth about the slimy spivvy exlawyer hard left wing asian islamist demagogue buffoon. “asian islamist” Kudos for sneaking that in there between “slimy” and “buffoon”—tells us clearly what all the anti-Khan rhetoric is really all about. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thakkar Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 16 minutes ago, mtls2005 said: He's said to denigrate jared by calling him a "girl", to others obviously. Jared is Trump’s love rival who stole away his beloved Ivanka, a girl he thinks is “hot” and “datable” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivor bigun Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 Sorting out knife attacks and acid attacks are the responsibility of police and other agencies. He has often spoken out against radicals, and let us remember that these attacks are carried out by a minority of Muslims. Some also forget about the attacks carried out by white supremacists, equally as disgusting. Yes a "minority" of muslims,all over the world,as opposed to a few attacks by other idiots.Sent from my SM-A720F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sanemax Posted June 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 5, 2019 3 hours ago, RJRS1301 said: Sorting out knife attacks and acid attacks are the responsibility of police and other agencies. He has often spoken out against radicals, and let us remember that these attacks are carried out by a minority of Muslims. Some also forget about the attacks carried out by white supremacists, equally as disgusting. We dont forget attacks by "White supremacists" , its just that they dont often happen . Theres nothing to forget or remember 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post simple1 Posted June 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 5, 2019 17 hours ago, Loiner said: Not really, if it is because he thinks that islamic terrorism is something we should be prepared for as part and parcel of living in a major city. Didn't you get the impression he kinda condoned that? He's not so hot on sorting out the acid attacks or knife crime in our capital either, both of which are have strong racial overtones that he ignores. You are posting lies, you know you are doing so. Why? What Khan actually said was: “Part and parcel of living in a great global city is you’ve got to be prepared for these things, you’ve got to be vigilant, you’ve got to support the police doing an incredibly hard job. We must never accept terrorists being successful, we must never accept that terrorists can destroy our life or destroy the way we lead our lives.” https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/apr/17/london-mayor-attacks-broken-promise-on-knife-funds 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 (edited) I'm curious about the potus use of the phrase stone cold. It occurred to me that must be dated, it isn't very widely used, and frankly I don't even know what it means. Is it mafia slang? Do Brits know what it means? So I had to look it up. So notice the Shakespeare reference. Now back to the meaning, bereft of any emotion / lack of concern. Forgetting the insult "loser" which is the favorite insult of the potus because it clearly is what he fears most for himself, do Londoners agree their mayor is bereft of emotion / has a lack of concern? https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/stone+cold Edited June 5, 2019 by Jingthing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtls2005 Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, Jingthing said: I'm curious about the potus use of the phrase stone cold. It occurred to me that must be dated, He's a huge WWE fan, where the nicknames are a "brand". 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post the guest Posted June 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 5, 2019 Sadly London is a shadow of its former glory, run by liberalite snowflakes who have no respect for what the USA did for the UK, at the time when they were really on their knees with the Germans. I hope this midget of a Major is booted-out, along with his sidekick Marxist Corbyn, who between them are damaging the UK. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 On 6/3/2019 at 3:27 PM, BTB1958 said: Good for Trump. Calling it like the rest of the world sees it. . Unless your a socialist liberal. Than free food and free everything for all immigrants. Because Trump is so popular in the rest of the world? "America’s global image plummeted following the election of President Donald Trump, amid widespread opposition to his administration’s policies and a widely shared lack of confidence in his leadership. Now, as the second anniversary of Trump’s election approaches, a new 25-nation Pew Research Center survey finds that Trump’s international image remains poor, while ratings for the United States are much lower than during Barack Obama’s presidency." https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2018/10/01/trumps-international-ratings-remain-low-especially-among-key-allies/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ivor bigun Posted June 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 5, 2019 You are posting lies, you know you are doing so. Why? What Khan actually said was: “Part and parcel of living in a great global city is you’ve got to be prepared for these things, you’ve got to be vigilant, you’ve got to support the police doing an incredibly hard job. We must never accept terrorists being successful, we must never accept that terrorists can destroy our life or destroy the way we lead our lives.” https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/apr/17/london-mayor-attacks-broken-promise-on-knife-fundsThe guardian,that wonderful paper,just right for your bottom, oh and the dozen or so people who read it,are they still begging for cash to keep going?Sent from my SM-A720F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7by7 Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, Thairealist said: It all depends on how you quantify as an immigrant. From your own reference, only 44.9% of London’s population is white. However they in turn, if you go back generations,were also immigrants. Using your definition of an immigrant; Trump is an immigrant. All his grandparents were immigrants to the USA, as was his mother. Taking your argument to it's logical conclusion, all Americans who cannot trace their ancestry back to pre-Columbian times are immigrants! 8 hours ago, Thairealist said: The problem stems from the fact that, those that people think of as immigrants, have only consisted of a large % of the whole population over the last 50-60 years. And maybe that’s the problem, if there had been a trickle of immigration over the years, they may have integrated and therefore been accepted to a greater degree than is the case now. As it is, over these last 50-60 there has been a deluge of immigrants, so that now London is not recognised by many as a British City. As a UK resident, I can assure you that your conclusion and the assumptions upon which it is based are completely incorrect. Unless you can prove me wrong by providing verifiable data showing the percentage of white British citizens who do not recognise London as a British citizen. I've limited my request to white British because the alt right posters here wouldn't accept the views of black, Asian etc. British. Edited June 5, 2019 by 7by7 Addendum 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple1 Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, ivor bigun said: The guardian,that wonderful paper,just right for your bottom, oh and the dozen or so people who read it,are they still begging for cash to keep going? Sent from my SM-A720F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Whatever, usual echo chamber attacking truth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dick dasterdly Posted June 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 5, 2019 (edited) 56 minutes ago, bristolboy said: Because Trump is so popular in the rest of the world? "America’s global image plummeted following the election of President Donald Trump, amid widespread opposition to his administration’s policies and a widely shared lack of confidence in his leadership. Now, as the second anniversary of Trump’s election approaches, a new 25-nation Pew Research Center survey finds that Trump’s international image remains poor, while ratings for the United States are much lower than during Barack Obama’s presidency." https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2018/10/01/trumps-international-ratings-remain-low-especially-among-key-allies/ Interesting article - I particularly liked the following ????:- "Most still want U.S. as top global power"/"The poll also finds that international publics express significant concerns about America’s role in world affairs. Large majorities say the U.S. doesn’t take into account the interests of countries like theirs when making foreign policy decisions." Contradictory much? "And despite the unease many feel about the U.S. at the moment, the idea of a U.S.-led world order is still attractive to most. When asked which would be better for the world, having China or the U.S. as the top global power, people in nearly every country tend to select the U.S., and this is particularly common among some of China’s Asia-Pacific neighbors, such as Japan, the Philippines, South Korea and Australia" Shocking..... ???? "These are among the major findings from a new Pew Research Center survey conducted among 26,112 respondents in 25 countries from May 20 to Aug. 12, 2018." I gave up reading at this point..... I wouldn't mind, but I can't stand trump either! Even so, propaganda pieces like this still seriously annoy me. Edit - Not that it matters, as he was elected by the citizens of the US, and they will decide whether or not he is re-elected. Edited June 5, 2019 by dick dasterdly 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7by7 Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 4 hours ago, sanemax said: 7 hours ago, RJRS1301 said: Sorting out knife attacks and acid attacks are the responsibility of police and other agencies. He has often spoken out against radicals, and let us remember that these attacks are carried out by a minority of Muslims. Some also forget about the attacks carried out by white supremacists, equally as disgusting. We dont forget attacks by "White supremacists" , its just that they dont often happen . Theres nothing to forget or remember There's no evidence that Muslim immigrants are responsible for most of London's knife attacks Quote We could find no data showing that Muslim immigrants are responsible for most knife attacks in London. A spokesman for the city’s police service denied that the claim was true, and academics we reached out to concurred. The burden of proof is on the Facebook post, and discovering no evidence to corroborate its claim, we rate this statement False. Muslims and other non-whites are often the victims of random attacks by whites; it just rarely get's reported outside the local news. Just one example:'If this was a white person .. It'd be all over the news': Muslim acid attack victim speaks out. In that case the perpetrator, John Tomin, was caught. Despite his Facebook page containing links to the far right and other such evidence, at his trial it was ruled that he was mentally unstable so this was not judged to be a racially motivated crime. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dick dasterdly Posted June 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 5, 2019 At the end of the day, Khan started the insult throwing - and it's sad that trump decided to respond in kind. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jip99 Posted June 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 5, 2019 7 minutes ago, dick dasterdly said: At the end of the day, Khan started the insult throwing - and it's sad that trump decided to respond in kind. Agree. It is just another example of the level to which world politics has sunk. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7by7 Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 38 minutes ago, ivor bigun said: The guardian,that wonderful paper,just right for your bottom, oh and the dozen or so people who read it,are they still begging for cash to keep going? Sent from my SM-A720F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app You may not like it's source, but The Guardian's quote of Khan's remark: "Part and parcel of living in a great global city is you’ve got to be prepared for these things, you’ve got to be vigilant, you’ve got to support the police doing an incredibly hard job. We must never accept terrorists being successful, we must never accept that terrorists can destroy our life or destroy the way we lead our lives.” is 100% accurate. He was asked on the London Assembly's website at the time to clarify his remark: What did you mean by your recent statement that terror attacks are "part and parcel of living in a big city" and how did you come to this conclusion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dick dasterdly Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 (edited) 16 minutes ago, 7by7 said: There's no evidence that Muslim immigrants are responsible for most of London's knife attacks Muslims and other non-whites are often the victims of random attacks by whites; it just rarely get's reported outside the local news. Just one example:'If this was a white person .. It'd be all over the news': Muslim acid attack victim speaks out. In that case the perpetrator, John Tomin, was caught. Despite his Facebook page containing links to the far right and other such evidence, at his trial it was ruled that he was mentally unstable so this was not judged to be a racially motivated crime. I agree to a certain extent. A poster (can't be bothered to go back and look for the actual post, for which I apologise) said that white crimes against blacks aren't remembered. I certainly remember the murder of Stephen Lawrence by a group of white thugs, albeit possibly because I was burgled a few days later and the police that attended made their racism extremely clear..... ☹️ A few years later, my white next door neighbour was beaten up by a gang of white thugs 'cos he had long hair and didn't fit into their definition of 'acceptable people'. ☹️ Edited June 5, 2019 by dick dasterdly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Loiner Posted June 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 5, 2019 16 hours ago, RJRS1301 said: Sorting out knife attacks and acid attacks are the responsibility of police and other agencies. He has often spoken out against radicals, and let us remember that these attacks are carried out by a minority of Muslims. Some also forget about the attacks carried out by white supremacists, equally as disgusting. In London, the elected Mayor – Sadiq Khan, is the equivalent of the Police and Crime Commissioner and isresponsible for the totality of policing in the capital https://www.london.gov.uk/what-we-do/mayors-office-policing-and-crime-mopac/about-mayors-office-policing-and-crime-mopac/mayor-mopac He's doing a sh1t job at it. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Loiner Posted June 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 5, 2019 15 hours ago, Thakkar said: “asian islamist” Kudos for sneaking that in there between “slimy” and “buffoon”—tells us clearly what all the anti-Khan rhetoric is really all about. On 6/4/2019 at 10:18 AM, Jingthing said: I agree with Khan. I thank him for speaking truth to the corrupt con man far right wing white nationalist demagogue buffoon president. On 6/4/2019 at 12:03 PM, Loiner said: I agree with Donald, for speaking the truth about the slimy spivvy exlawyer hard left wing asian islamist demagogue buffoon. So it's not worth complaining when describing the US President, but it is when describing the Nazim of Londonistan? Take the weight off your feet, cos that white man's burden is getting to you too much. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kingdong Posted June 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 5, 2019 On 6/3/2019 at 10:45 AM, simple1 said: Total nonsense. The census proves you wrong. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_groups_in_London#Foreign-born_population Sure plenty of foreigners working in NHS, but facts concerning the number of foreigners as opposed to hyperbole needs to be highlighted... In total, around 139,000 of the 1.2 million NHS employees are foreign nationals – equating to one in eight (12.5 per cent). https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nhs-foreign-doctors-how-many-reliant-immigration-theresa-may-brexit-explained-visa-a8383306.html Your other comments can also be easily refuted - enough of the fake news. how many illegal and therefore uncountable numbers of immigrants living in london?a lot more than you would imagine. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watcharacters Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 On 6/3/2019 at 3:18 PM, keith101 said: I am 100% with Sadiq Khan on this , I just cant imagine why they would give a state visit to Trump when pretty much all he does is give them s##t on twitter and from that tiny little lying mouth of his . On 6/3/2019 at 3:27 PM, BTB1958 said: Good for Trump. Calling it like the rest of the world sees it. . Unless your a socialist liberal. Than free food and free everything for all immigrants. You two sure see things differently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 31 minutes ago, Loiner said: So it's not worth complaining when describing the US President, but it is when describing the Nazim of Londonistan? Take the weight off your feet, cos that white man's burden is getting to you too much. Who are you calling "white" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 4675636b596f75 Posted June 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 5, 2019 On 6/3/2019 at 3:18 PM, keith101 said: I am 100% with Sadiq Khan on this , I just cant imagine why they would give a state visit to Trump when pretty much all he does is give them s##t on twitter and from that tiny little lying mouth of his . Right. How dare they. They should give another to Xi from China or some of the other dictators with human rights abuses. Yes, well done. Well thought out. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 4675636b596f75 Posted June 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 5, 2019 Khan looks like a stone-cold loser. Trump was right. I just love it when Trump opens his mouth. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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