Question about immigration and overstay

[Starboyd]

Hi,

 

So recently I have generated a 8 day overstay, I did this mainly because I thought I will pay the fine when I travel back home end of the month. Also because I read somewhere that you are only allowed to get a 'visa on arrival' twice a year. I also have a psychological health problem, which makes me very stressed easily, which could lead to a panic attack if I come in contact with a stressful situation, I am awaiting medicine sent from my home country, which is one of the major reasons to why I don't want to leave the country right now. So all this means it would cost me more money to travel to another country making a tourist visa which lasts 60 days, and I am only staying in Thailand another 15-20 days. 

 

So my question here is, I am staying together with a thai friend of mine, the landlord recently asked to see my Passport and the visa stamp arriving in Thailand and when I am supposed to depart from Thailand, because they must show this to the immigration. So since I have already accumulated a 8 day overstay, showing them the stamp will not lead to any good I presume? I'm thinking they would most likely come over here and force me to leave the country in order to extend? 

 

I am hoping someone knows what will most likely happen if I show them the stamp, could I possibly go to the hospital (which I have a history with in regards to my health problem) and ask them to make a extension with the immigration at least until I receive the medicine from my home country? I am not sure about this option as I have already accumulated 8 days overstay. My medical condition doesn't necessarily make it impossible to travel, but it makes it very difficult in the event I get stressed and if I have a panic attack. Which is why I would much rather wait to have my medicine, and also I don't want to take the strong benzodiapines that the hospitals here prescribe as I've had bad experiences with them before. 

 

Please advice, I would be very grateful for any useful information.

[overherebc]

If Immigration see you are on overstay you will be arrested, fined and deported no matter what your friend or landlord say.

Go to the airport and fly out to KL or somewhere and fly back in.

You will pay 500 baht per day at the airport and get a stamp saying you overstayed.

May not be the problem you imagine just fly out and in as quickly as possible.

[Starboyd]

2 minutes ago, overherebc said:

If Immigration see you are on overstay you will be arrested, fined and deported no matter what your friend or landlord say.

Go to the airport and fly out to KL or somewhere and fly back in.

You will pay 500 baht per day at the airport and get a stamp saying you overstayed.

May not be the problem you imagine just fly out and in as quickly as possible.

But like I mentioned u can only get visa on arrival twice a year? Or can I get more? Because I already got visa on arrival twice, so if I fly out and in again will they give me a stamp or can they refuse?

[ubonjoe]

5 minutes ago, Starboyd said:

But like I mentioned u can only get visa on arrival twice a year?

I assume you mean a 30 day visa exempt entry that you could of extended for 30 days at immigration not a 15 day visa on arrival.

There is no limit on visa exempt entries by air. There is a limit on them at land border crossing of 2 per calendar year.

If you are from country that gets a a 15 day visa on arrival there is also no limit on them.

[overherebc]

5 minutes ago, Starboyd said:

But like I mentioned u can only get visa on arrival twice a year? Or can I get more? Because I already got visa on arrival twice, so if I fly out and in again will they give me a stamp or can they refuse?

Two per year applies only to land entries that's why I said fly.

[Starboyd]

1 minute ago, ubonjoe said:

I assume you mean a 30 day visa exempt entry that you could of extended for 30 days at immigration not a 15 day visa on arrival.

There is no limit on visa exempt entries by air. There is a limit on them at land border crossing of 2 per calendar year.

If you are from country that gets a a 15 day visa on arrival there is also no limit on them.

Yes I got the 30 day visa exempt by air, but now I have 8 day overstay can I go to immigration to extend 30 days now or is it too late since I have the overstay? So it's fine to leave the country and come back same day and get another 30 day visa?

[jacko45k]

12 minutes ago, Starboyd said:

But like I mentioned u can only get visa on arrival twice a year? Or can I get more? Because I already got visa on arrival twice, so if I fly out and in again will they give me a stamp or can they refuse?

Visa on arrival or Visa Exempt?

One is 15 days, the other 30 days. Only Visa Exempt land border entries are restricted to 2 / year.

 

You could have got medication over the counter, many drugs easily obtained. Otherwise a hospital visit could have got it prescribed.

You seem to be making a lot of excuses. Get to the airport and pay the overstay. You do not want to be arrested, that will be stressful.

 

[overherebc]

17 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

Visa on arrival or Visa Exempt?

One is 15 days, the other 30 days. Only Visa Exempt land border entries are restricted to 2 / year.

 

You could have got medication over the counter, many drugs easily obtained. Otherwise a hospital visit could have got it prescribed.

You seem to be making a lot of excuses. Get to the airport and pay the overstay. You do not want to be arrested, that will be stressful.

 

I would only add airport as soon as possible, yesterday would be good if was possible.

[scorecard]

Is the medicine you claim to need not available at a bigger pharmacy in Thailand?

[DrJack54]

6 minutes ago, overherebc said:

I would only add airportj as soon as possible, yesterday would be good if was possible.

Listen to this advice! Its good.

Get ass to airport asap. Pay the fine and leave. After which you can think best option to return. If you are visa exempt for Vietnam, Saigon could be easy cheap option. Being arrested esp with the medical issue would be nightmare. 

[Starboyd]

4 minutes ago, scorecard said:

Is the medicine you claim to need not available at a bigger pharmacy in Thailand?

They have the medicine in Thailand but it's the US brand, which works differently and it's a bigger dose than I take also price is 600 thb per tablet.  So thanks everyone for the advice I will fly out and fly back.

[lamyai3]

16 hours ago, Starboyd said:

They have the medicine in Thailand but it's the US brand, which works differently and it's a bigger dose than I take also price is 600 thb per tablet.  So thanks everyone for the advice I will fly out and fly back.

Just take a ½ or ⅔ dose as appropriate, you can use a knife to cut the tablet. 600 baht per tablet balanced against 500 baht per day overstay fine doesn't make any sense - flying out pronto is the best advice. 

[BritTim]

If you do not have two visa exempt entries by land in 2019, fly to Vientiane today or tomorrow, and return by land to Nong Khai getting a 30-day visa exempt entry. This is the best way of solving the mess you have got yourself into with minimum risk. You will be fined 500 baht a day for the overstay, together with an overstay stamp in your passport. This will not jeopardise visa exempt entry by land, but could lead to problems in the future, especially entering the country by air.

 

If you travel by land to Nong Khai, there is the risk of encountering a roadblock where a passport check will reveal your overstay status. Some other (lower risk for roadblocks) land crossings, such as Ban Phu Nam Ron, may well refuse to process overstays of more than a few days. Going to an immigration office now for an extension is too risky with an overstay of over one week.

[sometimewoodworker]

19 hours ago, Starboyd said:

Yes I got the 30 day visa exempt by air, but now I have 8 day overstay can I go to immigration to extend 30 days now or is it too late since I have the overstay? So it's fine to leave the country and come back same day and get another 30 day visa?

It is too late to get an extension at immigration almost all offices will do a fine and extension if you are under 7 days overstay but not for anything longer. 

 

Of course some offices may not.

[onera1961]

20 hours ago, Starboyd said:

I am hoping someone knows what will most likely happen if I show them the stamp, could I possibly go to the hospital (which I have a history with in regards to my health problem) and ask them to make a extension with the immigration at least until I receive the medicine from my home country? I am not sure about this option as I have already accumulated 8 days overstay. My medical condition doesn't necessarily make it impossible to travel, but it makes it very difficult in the event I get stressed and if I have a panic attack. Which is why I would much rather wait to have my medicine, and also I don't want to take the strong benzodiapines that the hospitals here prescribe as I've had bad experiences with them before. 

This medical thing is not going to fly after you have already accumulated overstay, unless you don't mind getting arrested and put in the detention without access to any hospital or medicine. That will aggravate your situation further.  Leave the country as soon as possible by airport and then you can enter by land and wait for medicine here. 

[NoshowJones]

If you are looking for any compassion from the Thai government or their immigration dept, then dream on.

[jspill]

Nothing will happen because you're only showing your landlord not going to immigration yourself. Landlord won't care because he wants you to be there paying rent and it's only 8 days, just say you're leaving soon, delayed because you're sick. By the time he goes to immigration (might be weeks before he gets round to it) and by the time immigration notices and sends police round to visit (might take months) you'll be out of the country. They probably wouldn't even visit for one person on such a short overstay because it's likely the person will be leaving soon. Also a decent chance no one even notices, landlord or immigration, mostly it's about foreigners needing their address to be reported otherwise landlords get fined. This thing isn't about checking for overstays. It's a separate department that does that and they only bother to visit individuals in small towns out in the sticks, for cities they'll usually only visit if a particular condo has a lot of foreigners. If you're in a condo like that, small chance that randomly does happen within the next month, unrelated to your landlord, but it's unlikely. If it was me I'd just stay inside this month, avoid late night discos that might get raided, etc, and leave whenever I was ready, making sure I overstayed 89 days or less to not be blacklisted.