webfact Posted July 5, 2019 Posted July 5, 2019 Love of country? Or a political stunt? Trump holiday speech divides Americans By Jonas Ekblom and Bryan Pietsch President Donald Trump concludes his remarks while First Lady Melania Trump applauds as they welcome military families who have gathered for a Fourth of July picnic on the South Lawn of the White House prior to a fireworks display, in Washington, U.S., July 4, 2017. REUTERS/Mike Theiler WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Jan Shairrick and two friends drove more than a thousand miles from southern Arkansas to join President Donald Trump's "Salute to America" Independence Day celebrations in Washington. Some residents of the capital, however, stayed well away from the nearby festivities for fear of being wrongly identified as Trump supporters. Trump has injected himself into this year's Fourth of July celebrations by planning a speech in front of the Lincoln Memorial and organising a show of military power that includes a display of tanks and a flyover of fighter jets. Critics accused Trump of hijacking and politicizing a traditionally nonpartisan holiday. Supporters said he was merely showing love for the country and its military. "It's just a celebration of America," said Shairrick, sporting a "Trump 2020" baseball cap, a reference to the presidential election in November next year. She and her friends all wore Trump merchandise and took refuge in one of the few shady spots along the route for the Independence Day parade on Constitution Avenue. They said they saw no reason to protest Trump's plans for this year's event. "The military protects us," said one friend, Debra Dickson, who has several family members in the military. Just a mile east, residents of the Capitol Hill neighbourhood had their own, much smaller parade on Thursday morning and many said they would not attend the "Salute to America" because they felt the July 4 celebrations had been taken over by Trump. "This year we're not going," said Irina, a resident who said she usually takes her two young children to the concert by the U.S. Capitol and watches the fireworks display over the National Mall. "This is the holiday that unites all Americans but it seems that's not what is happening today unfortunately," she said, declining to give her last name. 'BABY TRUMP' Code Pink, an organisation that says it works to end U.S. wars and militarism, filled up a large diapered "Baby Trump" balloon on the National Mall in protest. Medea Benjamin, a protester with the group, said the presence of tanks on the street scared her. "Where are we going as a nation? I don’t like it at all." Along the July 4th parade route, where vendors sold bright-red "Make America Great Again" hats, many had no such concerns. Susan DeGraff from Hockessin, Delaware, said she liked Trump's involvement in the celebrations. "He's absolutely not politicizing the event," she said. "He's the president!" Schoolteacher Tiffany O'Brien travelled from Deerfield Beach, Florida just for the celebrations. "I think he loves the country and he wants everyone else to love it as well." The July 4 holiday, which celebrates the anniversary of the U.S. founders declaring independence from Britain in 1776, has by tradition not been a day when the president takes centre stage. The last time a U.S. president spoke during celebrations in the capital was in 1951 when Harry Truman celebrated the 175th anniversary of the signing of the Declaration of Independence. In a series of tweets this week, Trump said the event on Thursday would be "the show of a lifetime" and that "perhaps even Air Force One will do a low & loud sprint over the crowd." Air Force One is the presidential plane. (Reporting by Jonas Ekblom and Bryan Pietsch; Editing by Kieran Murray and Howard Goller) -- © Copyright Reuters 2019-07-05 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info
Popular Post Postmodernantique Posted July 5, 2019 Popular Post Posted July 5, 2019 It's ALL politics. Air Force One has been used by every president as a show of political mite. No matter what is said or done, those who hate Trump will hate everything he does. Those who love Trump will love everything he does. Now the ANTIFA morons are protesting Soros for not paying them to try to divide the country. His influence is far worse than anything the Russians could've done. 8 3 1 2 2
MRToMRT Posted July 5, 2019 Posted July 5, 2019 Interestingly even the article on this event in FOXnews website has quite a negative tone to the whole thing and its meaning. I just don't get what these things achieve that's useful to a countries citizens, whether it be in France, Russia, N. Korea, USA or wherever.
Popular Post bitterbatter Posted July 5, 2019 Popular Post Posted July 5, 2019 If you listen to the speech, is about unifying and creating national identity, if you just watch the mainstream media talk about the speech it’s all about dividing the people. Ask yourself, who is really responsible for dividing the American people? 12 2 1 1 1
Popular Post TopDeadSenter Posted July 5, 2019 Popular Post Posted July 5, 2019 21 minutes ago, MRToMRT said: I just don't get what these things achieve that's useful to a countries citizens, whether it be in France, Russia, N. Korea, USA or wherever. essentially an exercise in national pride. The concept that a proud people will tend to serve the nation rather than the people's own selfish ends. Sadly in modern times, it is becoming outdated. The move is towards instilling national shame and guilt and a me me me agenda, rather than the more positive traits of yesteryear, although President Trump is fighting back against the negativity. 8 5
Popular Post ezzra Posted July 5, 2019 Popular Post Posted July 5, 2019 America has been long divided well before Trump has emerged, with too much free speech, most of it hate speech, way too much demands for entitlements and the me, me, me spoiled generation that doesn't see anything beyond the screens of their mobile devices and what social media de jour is feeding them with, and someone once said, you got the leader you deserves... 7 1
Popular Post nkg Posted July 5, 2019 Popular Post Posted July 5, 2019 33 minutes ago, Postmodernantique said: It's ALL politics. Air Force One has been used by every president as a show of political mite. No matter what is said or done, those who hate Trump will hate everything he does. Those who love Trump will love everything he does. Now the ANTIFA morons are protesting Soros for not paying them to try to divide the country. His influence is far worse than anything the Russians could've done. "Now ANTIFA are protesting Soros" - really?? What lunatic conspiracy theory are you referring to? Do you have any links to support your claims? Your comments are like a parody of what a "right wing" commenter is supposed to believe. This is your 4th comment on this site? Really? If I didn't know better, I would say that you already have an account on this website. Multiple accounts for the purposes of trolling are forbidden. 6 2 1
Popular Post bristolboy Posted July 5, 2019 Popular Post Posted July 5, 2019 44 minutes ago, Postmodernantique said: It's ALL politics. Air Force One has been used by every president as a show of political mite. No matter what is said or done, those who hate Trump will hate everything he does. Those who love Trump will love everything he does. Now the ANTIFA morons are protesting Soros for not paying them to try to divide the country. His influence is far worse than anything the Russians could've done. "Now the ANTIFA morons are protesting Soros for not paying them to try to divide the country." Any more lies to share with us? Where did you dig up this piece of tripe? Facebook? 3 2
Popular Post bristolboy Posted July 5, 2019 Popular Post Posted July 5, 2019 15 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said: essentially an exercise in national pride. The concept that a proud people will tend to serve the nation rather than the people's own selfish ends. Sadly in modern times, it is becoming outdated. The move is towards instilling national shame and guilt and a me me me agenda, rather than the more positive traits of yesteryear, although President Trump is fighting back against the negativity. Donald Trump is fighting against the "me agenda"? It is to laugh. 3 2 2 1
Popular Post bristolboy Posted July 5, 2019 Popular Post Posted July 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, ezzra said: America has been long divided well before Trump has emerged, with too much free speech, most of it hate speech, way too much demands for entitlements and the me, me, me spoiled generation that doesn't see anything beyond the screens of their mobile devices and what social media de jour is feeding them with, and someone once said, you got the leader you deserves... Really? Too much free speech? And most of it is hate speech? How do you come up with such nonsense? 4 1
Popular Post nkg Posted July 5, 2019 Popular Post Posted July 5, 2019 1 minute ago, bristolboy said: "Now the ANTIFA morons are protesting Soros for not paying them to try to divide the country." Any more lies to share with us? Where did you dig up this piece of tripe? Facebook? I agree, it's total rubbish. But the guy has only made 4 posts, supposedly. I think he's a regular who is trolling us. 2 1
bristolboy Posted July 5, 2019 Posted July 5, 2019 6 minutes ago, nkg said: I agree, it's total rubbish. But the guy has only made 4 posts, supposedly. I think he's a regular who is trolling us. Doubtless 2
Popular Post PremiumLane Posted July 5, 2019 Popular Post Posted July 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Postmodernantique said: Now the ANTIFA morons are protesting Soros for not paying them to try to divide the country. come again? 2 1
Popular Post Tug Posted July 5, 2019 Popular Post Posted July 5, 2019 1 hour ago, TopDeadSenter said: essentially an exercise in national pride. The concept that a proud people will tend to serve the nation rather than the people's own selfish ends. Sadly in modern times, it is becoming outdated. The move is towards instilling national shame and guilt and a me me me agenda, rather than the more positive traits of yesteryear, although President Trump is fighting back against the negativity. You must really hate Donald then he has been operating for his own selfish ends all his life he had his scam university his scam charity he has bilked many people on his real estate deals most Americans find him repugnant for just the reasons you state the me me me agenda fits Donald to a tee the 4th of July isent Donald’s soap box we are sick of being trolled by him 4 1
Jai Dee Posted July 5, 2019 Posted July 5, 2019 A crude off-topic troll post has been removed. Taoism: shit happens Buddhism: if shit happens, it isn't really shit Islam: if shit happens, it is the will of Allah Catholicism: if shit happens, you deserve it Judaism: why does this shit always happen to us? Atheism: I don't believe this shit
Boon Mee Posted July 5, 2019 Posted July 5, 2019 4 hours ago, LennyW said: Haters always gonna hate!! Got that right and we're probably stuck with the Nattering Nabobs of Negativism for the next 6 years. 2
simple1 Posted July 5, 2019 Posted July 5, 2019 15 minutes ago, Boon Mee said: Got that right and we're probably stuck with the Nattering Nabobs of Negativism for the next 6 years. Yep, whining conspiracist trump supporters going on about Soros et al 1
Popular Post expatfromwyoming Posted July 5, 2019 Popular Post Posted July 5, 2019 6 hours ago, bitterbatter said: If you listen to the speech, is about unifying and creating national identity, if you just watch the mainstream media talk about the speech it’s all about dividing the people. Ask yourself, who is really responsible for dividing the American people? "Nobody is going to pour truth into your brain. It's something you have to find out for yourself." ~ Noam Chomsky 3
Emdog Posted July 5, 2019 Posted July 5, 2019 Do wish he would at least run through speech handed to him before reading it. Yeah, those revolutionary soldiers capturing airports. Forward thinking! Star Spangled banner is from war of 1812, not revolution 1 1
AgMech Cowboy Posted July 5, 2019 Posted July 5, 2019 I'm not divided in the least. Previous Presidents did what they wanted, Trump did what he wanted. Everybody that was in the area enjoyed a wonderful fireworks shop. God Bless America!! I'm glad I'm here and don't have to listen to the crap over there. Glad I don't have CNN or BBC anymore. Thankfully, Thailand, still believes in maintaining the borders and the sanctity of their citizens. Also glad they are recognizing more of the stateless people who have been here for years. 2
expatfromwyoming Posted July 5, 2019 Posted July 5, 2019 According to him, Trump is a genius. So, it’s quite puzzling he doesn’t seem to have a grasp of U.S. history. But then to know history you must read. Most Presidents spend a lifetime studying their political heroes and the countries history. Trump however has only dedicated his life to the worlds of real estate and reality television. I suspect that his followers believe Trump knows the facts but he’s just testing us to see if we know our stuff???? 1 1
from the home of CC Posted July 5, 2019 Posted July 5, 2019 8 hours ago, ezzra said: America has been long divided well before Trump has emerged, with too much free speech, most of it hate speech, way too much demands for entitlements and the me, me, me spoiled generation that doesn't see anything beyond the screens of their mobile devices and what social media de jour is feeding them with, and someone once said, you got the leader you deserves... that's a world wide phenomenon (in countries where you can speak your mind)
JMSIII Posted July 5, 2019 Posted July 5, 2019 8 hours ago, Postmodernantique said: It's ALL politics. Air Force One has been used by every president as a show of political mite. No matter what is said or done, those who hate Trump will hate everything he does. Those who love Trump will love everything he does. Now the ANTIFA morons are protesting Soros for not paying them to try to divide the country. His influence is far worse than anything the Russians could've done. I agree with most of what you say, but if you happen to see any of the old Trump interviews from 20-30+ years ago, he has always been a very patriotic guy. Having worked many armed POTUS and VPOTUS details along side the Secret Service, there is definitely a political mite to AF1... On Soros, you are so spot on! 1
Popular Post nervona81732 Posted July 5, 2019 Popular Post Posted July 5, 2019 I for one have been a life long Democrat and come from several generations of working class Dems. Union all my life. Never more after these stunts I have seen. I didn't vote for him and have been an Independent after Obummer debacle. POS. I'm darn sure voting for Trump this coming election bar non. He is the hardest working , busiest Prez Iv'e seen and I believe he is better suited than JFK was. You know his fate. Trump feeds on this danger. He is fearless and doesn't give a <deleted> who's feelings he crushes. Bully for him. It needs to be said. MAGA and <deleted> all you Trump critics. 1 2
atyclb Posted July 5, 2019 Posted July 5, 2019 3 hours ago, expatfromwyoming said: According to him, Trump is a genius. So, it’s quite puzzling he doesn’t seem to have a grasp of U.S. history. But then to know history you must read. Most Presidents spend a lifetime studying their political heroes and the countries history. Trump however has only dedicated his life to the worlds of real estate and reality television. I suspect that his followers believe Trump knows the facts but he’s just testing us to see if we know our stuff???? trump is clearly not a genius because if he were he would be a prolific member of the thai visa forum. sadly his qualifications falls woefully short 1
meand Posted July 5, 2019 Posted July 5, 2019 You know why he did this? Because he knew people would hate it. That is what he sits around and thinks about as president, "what can I do that they would hate, ahh! I know, throw an ostentatious parade, piss the greenies off by paying for it with national park money....". That is the level of imbecile we are dealing with. 1
meand Posted July 5, 2019 Posted July 5, 2019 I wanna know a few things, 1. dont they have to tell tax payers how much things cost? 2. he can just decide to take money from a park for political purposes? I thought congress had to appropriate funds.
Popular Post candide Posted July 5, 2019 Popular Post Posted July 5, 2019 3 hours ago, JMSIII said: I agree with most of what you say, but if you happen to see any of the old Trump interviews from 20-30+ years ago, he has always been a very patriotic guy. Having worked many armed POTUS and VPOTUS details along side the Secret Service, there is definitely a political mite to AF1... On Soros, you are so spot on! Yes. And he has been particularly patriotic during the Vietnam war. ???? 4
Mac98 Posted July 5, 2019 Posted July 5, 2019 There's nothing wrong with Trump that a good beating wouldn't cure. ... at the polls of course. (wink wink) 1 1
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