Thai tourism in trouble: And competitor Vietnam is "scary" for Pattaya

[metisdead]

Some off topic trolling posts and the replies have been removed. 

[Percy P]

2 minutes ago, marcusarelus said:

My Thai friends are going the the UK.

At 38.54B/£ there on to a good thing .

[Lee65]

I have done my part for Thai tourism: advised friends in other countries that Thailand has become an awful place to visit.

[ToddinChonburi]

Apparently everyone missed all the tour buses in Jomtein last weekend. This weekend is the new Kings birthday. Another long Holiday.

[marcusarelus]

Just now, Lee65 said:

I have done my part for Thai tourism: advised friends in other countries that Thailand has become an awful place to visit.

I've told my family not to come.  Don't like the government. 

[Lenny Jones]

6 hours ago, Matzzon said:

That´s great news! Maybe the bigger part of all foreign criminalty in Thailand can move to Vietnam too. Then this nice country can go back to what it once was.

You want Thais to leave their native land? - 555555 ! -"Foreign"? - Don't think so!

 

[intherealworld]

1 hour ago, rodknock said:

how about being overcharged!!!

try getting a taxi!!

ripped of by lady boys!!

yea, let's go and get ------

Maybe start Batting for the other side, and the cost my well come down   

[lkv]

14 minutes ago, Percy P said:

Thai goods are very cheap but not against your own Countries currency. So that the problem

Just by repeating that 10 times, people are not going to believe it more ????????????

 

If it's not against my currency, then against what? 

 

Local purchasing power?

 

Yeah sure, Thais will agree with that. Not. If the BTS keeps pumping the prices, they will be taking the bus.

Edited July 23, 2019 by lkv

[atyclb]

6 hours ago, BestB said:

Taxi company I use for my biz was always somewhat arrogant but did the job so stuck with them.

 

the other week was going away myself, owner was crying how quite it is. 

 

Anyhow actual owner shows up , no hello of any kind, no assistance to put bag in the car . Not a single word on the way , no assistance taking bag out of the car .

 

did not want to keep quit, told him who I was, and he was not interested at all, not even a sorry.

 

Point is, there are less customers and locals provide even less service yet cry about not having customers .

 

not only that but happy to mistreat existing customers.and charge more .

 

was I a massive customer? No, but was giving them about 10-15 trips per week, now it’s done.

 

if that’s how he treats the owner, do not even want to think how he treated my customers 

 

 

and i left 20% tip for drinks at a sports bar in bkk and server openly expressed her unhappiness while pointing to 100 baht bills in change she gave me.

 

fact is at a. thai pub or bar the staff would never dare do that nor the band request tips for doing what they are paid to do, play music.

 

they just dont get it

 

nor do they learn

 

 

 

and for those of you that are here for the girls, forget it, most are fat. even at gogo's hard to find a normal weight one.  used to be some friendly ones would take initiative and sit on your lap and that was ok but now it actually hurts and impedes your breathing.

Edited July 23, 2019 by atyclb

[JemJem]

I think that not only fewer tourists head for Thailand than before, but also many 'long-stayers' probably stay in Thailand shorter than they used to. 3-4 months instead of 6; 1-2 months instead of 3, etc.

 

But, still, Thailand remains as one of the top destinations for tourists worldwide; and I don't think there will be a SIGNIFICANT decline in tourist numbers/revenues (unless the baht continues on its march of course).

Edited July 23, 2019 by JemJem

[Percy P]

6 hours ago, Metapod said:

Exchange rate is bad, costs are going up, visas are getting a lot harder to get, and more competitive alternatives are arising.

 

it isn't really surprising stuff. Thailand ain't that cheap anymore. Aussie dollar is like 21.7 thb these days. A lot of things are cheaper back in Aus now,

Why is it only 21.75 Baat.It's not because the Baat has value.

[Percy P]

7 hours ago, Metapod said:

Exchange rate is bad, costs are going up, visas are getting a lot harder to get, and more competitive alternatives are arising.

 

it isn't really surprising stuff. Thailand ain't that cheap anymore. Aussie dollar is like 21.7 thb these days. A lot of things are cheaper back in Aus now,

But it is, you can't compare it to the poor performance of your own Country.

[mrmicbkktxl]

1 hour ago, Benmart said:

I also vote with my money. Poor service = bad reviews and no return business. The good businesses will survive.

Bad review can put you into prison

[StevieAus]

7 hours ago, Metapod said:

Exchange rate is bad, costs are going up, visas are getting a lot harder to get, and more competitive alternatives are arising.

 

it isn't really surprising stuff. Thailand ain't that cheap anymore. Aussie dollar is like 21.7 thb these days. A lot of things are cheaper back in Aus now,

How are visas harder to get for tourists coming to Thailand?

Tourists from more than sixty countries can travel to Thailand visa exempt, compare that with Vietnam you can almost count on one hand the countries from which you don't need a visa.

[Percy P]

6 hours ago, Matzzon said:

That´s great news! Maybe the bigger part of all foreign criminalty in Thailand can move to Vietnam too. Then this nice country can go back to what it once was.

I agree.

[Traubert]

50 minutes ago, GeorgeCross said:

 

whats this 40 to 1 crap??? and check out the growth!!!

 

vietnam had 15.5M toursit arrivals in 2018:

 

Data source: Ministry of Culture, Sport & Tourism^[8]

Year	Tourist Arrivals	Change
06/2019	8,480,993	10.2 % [9]
2018	15,497,791	19.9% [10]
2017	12,922,151	29.1%[11]
2016	10,012,735	26%
2015	7,943,651	0.9%
2014	7,874,312	4%
2013	7,572,352	10.6%
2012	6,847,678	10.8%
2011	6,014,032	19.1%
2010	5,049,855	34.8%

 

source wikipedia.

 

 

You have to chuckle.

 

One month ago : Chinese tourists!! Spend nothing, spit all over, crap everywhere.

 

This week : Vietnam!! Vietnam!!

 

Vietnam had 12.1m tourists last year. All but 202K were from Asian countries and furthermore, just short of 5m of them were Chinese. Frying pan and fire anyone? ????

 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/981987/vietnam-number-international-tourist-arrivals/

[sawadee1947]

Thailand lost it's charm and fascination. It's not a sooo exotic destination anymore. And if you be treated like shit then you tend to go other places.

Thailand is turning to be a country which like to have the money but not offering easy going immigration rules. There is no balance anymore in giving and taking.

And don't forget ....Vietnam can offer a French influence with baguettes and all sorts of cheese. ????Same Burma, which is the upcoming destination.

Thailand did not manage to keep the customers but shows with inclining death tolls on the roads that greediness will rule the country, not safety for tourists (and Thai people) ????

[balo]

Good, they admit it, maybe time for a change. Prayut out. 

 

[emptypockets]

2 hours ago, crazykopite said:

It’s not always about money it’s about all the stupid changes they keep making year in year out when it comes to renewing the extension of stay it’s become a pain in the @$$ sadly it’s no longer the land of smiles and that’s why I will be leaving when my extension of stay runs out in June 2020 if I can sell my property otherwise I will have to look at renting it out long term which I want to avoid.

Why wait for 11 months. Why not go now? You can still rent out. The likelihood of a sale is remote if you listen to the pessimists on this forum. Cheeseman seems to be having a lot of problems selling or renting.

[StevieAus]

5 hours ago, Garybaldy said:

Not only are the tourists down but the ones that are coming are not spending as much because it’s too expensive. If you can go to Vietnam for less then most people have no loyalty they will go. As for us who live here full time then we are feeling the pain of the strong Baht and ever increasing hoops to jump through at immigration etc so we have 2 choices, tighten our belts and hope for a better exchange and dance to the Thai tune or leave Thailand for pastures new.

I agree that the baht has resulted in a drop in the value of a number of currencies but what are the ever increasing number of hoops to jump through at Immigration?

I am not doing anything differently than when I came here years ago and from memory the cost of the retirement extension and retry permit hasn’t increased.

I had more hoops to jump through just with daily living in Australia. 

[Tyrant]

It's sad but Thailand been wishing for a farang free kingdom from some time, can't cry now for lack of tourism.

[DJ54]

6 hours ago, BestB said:

told him who I was, and he was not interested at all, not even a sorry.

Who are you?... maybe he didn’t understand language spoken

[sambum]

2 hours ago, marcusarelus said:

Tourist arrivals Thailand to Vietnam Millions to thousands.  Go to the website on the bottom of the graph to see Vietnam is not even in the ballpark. 

Yet!

 

[Percy P]

7 hours ago, Metapod said:

Exchange rate is bad, costs are going up, visas are getting a lot harder to get, and more competitive alternatives are arising.

 

it isn't really surprising stuff. Thailand ain't that cheap anymore. Aussie dollar is like 21.7 thb these days. A lot of things are cheaper back in Aus now,

But it is ,but not in comparisons to your own countries exchange rate but you can blame that on your own C countries poor performance economically.

[Call]

Good news!

It can´t continue like this. Some 15-20 million tourists will make Thailand a smiling country again.

But the greed have deep roots ????

[sambum]

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

No. Nearly everything the hapless army does makes the Thai people less happy, lowers their quality of life and diminishes the nation. They are in way over their heads. They need to get out or the nation needs to remove them from their daily lives. They serve no useful function whatsoever and degrade the country. 

So the dear leader did not succeed on Friday nights in bringing happiness back to the people?

[Isaan sailor]

No longer Thailand.  Call it Chiland.  Too many bilateral trade agreements with the ChiComs.

[Percy P]

7 hours ago, Metapod said:

Exchange rate is bad, costs are going up, visas are getting a lot harder to get, and more competitive alternatives are arising.

 

it isn't really surprising stuff. Thailand ain't that cheap anymore. Aussie dollar is like 21.7 thb these days. A lot of things are cheaper back in Aus now,

But it is cheap, but not in exchange to your own Countries exchange rate. It's your Country that's the problem

[Rimmer]

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Thai tourism in trouble: And competitor Vietnam is "scary" for Pattaya

 

 

[marcusarelus]

38 minutes ago, atyclb said:

 

 

and i left 20% tip for drinks at a sports bar in bkk and server openly expressed her unhappiness while pointing to 100 baht bills in change she gave me.

 

fact is at a. thai pub or bar the staff would never dare do that nor the band request tips for doing what they are paid to do, play music.

 

they just dont get it

 

nor do they learn

 

 

 

and for those of you that are here for the girls, forget it, most are fat. even at gogo's hard to find a normal weight one.  used to be some friendly ones would take initiative and sit on your lap and that was ok but now it actually hurts and impedes your breathing.

I've got the name of a good optometrist it's close to the Oasis.  I took the photo down.  I forgot how you fellows respond.  Pearls to ....... and so on.

 

Edited July 23, 2019 by marcusarelus