"Don't take my mum away - who's gonna look after me?", five year old appeals for shoplifting parent

[Myran]

I'll never understand why people choose to get a bunch of kids when they can barely take care of themselves. Sure, unexpected things can happen, but if you're not well off financially, why bring a bunch of kids to the world who then have to live in poverty?

[Gandtee]

1 hour ago, Myran said:

I'll never understand why people choose to get a bunch of kids when they can barely take care of themselves. Sure, unexpected things can happen, but if you're not well off financially, why bring a bunch of kids to the world who then have to live in poverty?

The reason maybe because they are uneducated and ignorant of contraception and birth control. It is easy for those who have had the luxury of education to criticise those that are not so fortunate. Maybe they are Catholics????

[Myran]

18 minutes ago, Gandtee said:

The reason maybe because they are uneducated and ignorant of contraception and birth control. It is easy for those who have had the luxury of education to criticise those that are not so fortunate. Maybe they are Catholics????

This isn't some backwater African village anno 1923. And even if they are ignorant of birth control, I'm pretty sure they've made the connection between doing the hokey-pokey and kids plopping out.

 

It's irresponsible no matter how you look at it.

[Gandtee]

52 minutes ago, Myran said:

This isn't some backwater African village anno 1923. And even if they are ignorant of birth control, I'm pretty sure they've made the connection between doing the hokey-pokey and kids plopping out.

 

It's irresponsible no matter how you look at it.

I doubt you have visited any Thai slum areas or even remote villages areas to make the comparison to some backwater African village. I admire you for your holier than thou attitude but your compassion is sadly lacking. I don't condone the stealing but I can certainly understand a mother wanting to feed and clothe her children in the school uniforms laid down by officialdom. There must be many families who struggle financially to conform.

[stickyrice2000]

I guess no probation for the poor.  The rich people are running around freely with more serious crimes.

[metisdead]

Off topic posts and the off topic replies have been removed. 

[Myran]

2 hours ago, Gandtee said:

I doubt you have visited any Thai slum areas or even remote villages areas to make the comparison to some backwater African village. I admire you for your holier than thou attitude but your compassion is sadly lacking. I don't condone the stealing but I can certainly understand a mother wanting to feed and clothe her children in the school uniforms laid down by officialdom. There must be many families who struggle financially to conform.

More than you, I dare wager. I've spent a lot of time among the poor in Klong Toei as well as rural parts of Thailand, mostly in my wife's province. We're talking people living in literal dumps or in lean-to sheds in the forest. They're not as backwater and disconnected from the modern world as you seem to think, and neither are they too stupid or uneducated to understand how babies are made.

 

It seems your the one with the attitude if you're trying to portray these people as buffoons or animals who don't know what they're doing. You don't have to act the white knight and come to the rescue of the stupid poor people; I can assure you that they are fully aware of what they're doing and that they possess the knowledge and the mental capabilities to take responsibility for their actions.

 

If you can barely take care of yourself, don't get a bunch of children who have to grow up in squalor.

[Bill Miller]

On 7/29/2019 at 5:47 PM, fullcave said:

That of course is incorrect as their teachings do not involve use of force. 

Where in blue blazes did you come up with any scintilla of a hint about "use of force" in my remark?

Really, time for remedial reading class? ????

Ipso facto both Jesus and Buddha would likely be considered "socialists" by the genersl run of "conservatives" today, IMO.

[VocalNeal]

On 7/29/2019 at 11:50 AM, webfact said:

charged with theft during the hours of darkness

Technically is was illuminated inside the mall so not dark. But oh dear......during the hours of darkness. 

[Bill Miller]

9 hours ago, Myran said:

More than you, I dare wager. I've spent a lot of time among the poor in Klong Toei as well as rural parts of Thailand, mostly in my wife's province. We're talking people living in literal dumps or in lean-to sheds in the forest. They're not as backwater and disconnected from the modern world as you seem to think, and neither are they too stupid or uneducated to understand how babies are made.

 

It seems your the one with the attitude if you're trying to portray these people as buffoons or animals who don't know what they're doing. You don't have to act the white knight and come to the rescue of the stupid poor people; I can assure you that they are fully aware of what they're doing and that they possess the knowledge and the mental capabilities to take responsibility for their actions.

 

If you can barely take care of yourself, don't get a bunch of children who have to grow up in squalor.

Apparently you missed the part where the father lost his job, and they presumably made it ok when he was employed.

Are you a fan of the "prosperity gospels"? Your disdain for " stupid poor people" suggests as much.

Pretty much makes hash of your entire compassionate diatribe.

 

[briansbiology]

makes you think all those out making merit with overweight monks for good karma must think helping a poor family doesn't give as much karma. 

[webfact]

Mother caught stealing milk powder, school shoes released on bail

By The Nation

 

 

A mother of four who was caught red-handed stealing milk powder and school shoes for her youngest daughter has been released on bail.

 

The 35-year-old mother, a Si Sa Ket native whose name was withheld, was released from Samut Prakan prison Tuesday afternoon after Si Sa Ket MP Artsapol Santraipop of the Bhumjai Thai Party submitted a Bt100,000 cash bond for her temporary release.

 

The mother was arrested Saturday night while taking her five-year-old daughter to visit the superstore in Samut Prakan’s Samrong Nua district.

 

Security officers arrested her as she was trying to steal a pair of school shoes, some milk powder and two packs of Brand Vita drinks.

She said her husband had lost his job and with four children, she was unable to make ends meet and wanted the milk powder, the shoes and the drinks for her five-year-old daughter, her youngest child.

 

After she was released from the prison, the MP took her to her rented room near Suvarnabhumi Airport much to the joy of three of her children. The other child was still sleeping when she arrived home

 

The three older children apologized to the MP and accompanying reporters on behalf of their mother and promised that their mother would not do it again.

 

The mother cried and admitted to the MP that she led her youngest daughter to visit the store three times and was arrested on the third visit. On the first visit, she only window shopped, but stole six milk powder packs on the second visit.

 

“I did it because I didn’t have the money to buy milk for my child. I would like to issue an apology to society for acting as a bad example to my kids. I swear I won’t do it again,” the mother said, her tears flowing freely.

 

Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30373943

 

-- © Copyright The Nation Thailand 2019-07-31

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[chrisandsu]

Very very sad ????

[bluesofa]

3 hours ago, webfact said:

stole six milk powder packs on the second visit.

I hope we don't read that she skimmed skipped bail.

[sweatalot]

4 hours ago, webfact said:

I swear I won’t do it again,

And if the kids are starving? 

Terrible situation

[Jo3200]

Good time for many of the thaivisa members to see if their problems they complain about are actually that big.

[Deli]

Maybe a national fund to help these people would make more sense than a 2nd sub ?

[soalbundy]

No moral guilt here, she did what she had to do.

[Enoon]

 

 

 

Shoes released on bail?

 

 

 

[hotchilli]

6 hours ago, webfact said:

She said her husband had lost his job and with four children, she was unable to make ends meet

Seems the husband could make his end meet.... maybe try using condoms & stop knocking out kids you cannot afford !

[cardinalblue]

The store manager should have not pressed charges; he or she should have paid himself for the items stolen so the women would have avoided charges/sentencing...

 

He would have been rewarded with good karma and avoided the waste of legal resources which occurred

[Inn Between]

6 minutes ago, cardinalblue said:

The store manager should have not pressed charges; he or she should have paid himself for the items stolen so the women would have avoided charges/sentencing...

 

He would have been rewarded with good karma and avoided the waste of legal resources which occurred

I agree that bringing the police into the scene could or should have been avoided, considering the woman's circumstances. As for the manager paying for the 8K worth of goods and sending her on her way, I don't agree. It's very likely that the manager may not have a lot of extra cash to spare, and the possibility of depriving himself or his own family of basic needs or comforts to take care of this person isn't fair. Can you imagine if the word spread that the place is an easy touch for any and all with a hard luck story?

 

I think the best outcome would have been to retrieve the goods and impose a lifetime ban on the woman from entering the store ever again. 

[fullcave]

15 hours ago, Bill Miller said:

Where in blue blazes did you come up with any scintilla of a hint about "use of force" in my remark?

Really, time for remedial reading class? ????

Ipso facto both Jesus and Buddha would likely be considered "socialists" by the genersl run of "conservatives" today, IMO.

Are you drunk? 

[Pique Dard]

18 hours ago, webfact said:

the milk powder, the shoes and the drinks for her five-year-old daughter

18 hours ago, webfact said:

 

 

what? was it necessariry to put the mother in jail for that?

[RichardColeman]

On 7/29/2019 at 5:50 AM, webfact said:

Her husband had lost his job as a security guard at Suvarnabhumi airport

I wonder if hubby lost his job from theft too ? 

On 7/29/2019 at 5:50 AM, webfact said:

The police arranged for the little girl to be taken away by the sister of the husband.

Where's dad ? Prison for theft ? 

 

Best solution is let her work the money off and keep the goods for the family

[brianthainess]

17 hours ago, hotchilli said:

Seems the husband could make his end meet.... maybe try using condoms & stop knocking out kids you cannot afford !

Condoms cost money.

[brianthainess]

17 hours ago, Enoon said:

 

 

 

Shoes released on bail?

 

 

 

They might do a runner

[Galactus]

what a f in shop! 

you caught her stealing milk powder and school shoes!

so clearly she has financial troubles and doing this to feed the children!

you cant see this as a shop owner? and instead report her to police and get her jailed away from her kids?

you dont have a heart? or any consciousness? everything means money to you? that shallow you are?

if it was me or any other human being with a heart and some understanding and empathy, this would never be reported and those milk powder and shoes given for free.

and ask her to come again if she has no money to feed the kids, to help her again.

[moontang]

Sounds like she coached her kid on what to say if caught.  Maybe they had been caught before. 

[rickudon]

All the circumstances of this case are not clear, BUT when there is no adequate welfare state, some have to choose - starve or steal. This case may be one of them.