webfact Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Points system on driving licenses will reduce accidents in Thailand Picture: Daily News The top policeman responsible for introducing the new driving licence points system has said that the new measures will be up and running in December. Tweaks are taking place and the public will be informed about the system in a PR campaign from next month, said Maj-Gen Ekkarak Limsangkat. The Maj-Gen told Daily News at the 14th seminar on road safety in Bang Na last week that getting points on licences for infractions on the roads had been in place in the US, Japan and Europe for 20 years. He hopes that once the system comes in in Thailand that the number of accidents on the roads will diminish just like it had in Japan and the western countries. He was quoted as saying that there are 6 deaths a day (Thaivisa notes that this was probably meant to be 60 in their story). He said the death toll was more than 20,000 people a year that would tally with about 60 per day. Picture: Daily News Such an admission was also made by DPM Prawit Wongsuwan at the same conference, notes Thaivisa. Ekkarak explained that the points system will give each driver 12 points that he called "credit". There are two kinds of offences. The first kind are minor ones that would merit fines but no points. However, if fines are not paid within a stipulated period then under Article 155 of the road traffic law both a fine and points will be levied. In the second group are more serious offences such as speeding, going the wrong way on the highway, passing through red lights, DUI, using phones while driving and not wearing helmets on motorcycles. Daily News gave examples of how many points will be deducted: Drunk driving: 3 points Red lights: 2 points Helmets and speeding: 1 point each Ekkarak said that if you use up all your credit or points then your licence will be suspended for 90 days. Repeat offenders face a three year ban and having to retake their driving test. Police will post fines to people and then they have 15 days to pay up. If they don't then the Department of Land Transport will be contacted so that fines can be paid at the DLT when tax renewal time comes. If offenders don't have enough money to pay they can still renew their tax but will get a 30 day final notice on the fine after which no tax disc can be issued. Motorists will have the ability to check outstanding fines online, he said. Full details are promised in September with the system finally rolled out in December. Source: Daily News -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2019-08-14 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mok199 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Truly enforce laws ,and stop putting on a big show by harassing drivers at check points..Stop focusing on Drama,appearance and optics and start thinking about sustainable results... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiwrath Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, webfact said: He hopes that once the system comes in in Thailand that the number of accidents on the roads will diminish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkidlad Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 4 minutes ago, webfact said: Points system on driving licenses will reduce accidents in Thailand No. Enforcing laws will help reduce accidents. Buzzwords and info-boards, etc, achieve nothing other than boosting some useless officials' egos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatOngo Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 18 minutes ago, webfact said: Ekkarak explained that the points system will give each driver 12 points that he called "credit". 18 minutes ago, webfact said: Ekkarak said that if you use up all your credit or points then your licence will be suspended for 90 days. Drunk driving: 3 points...……………………..OK, can do 4 times Red lights: 2 points...…………………...……..Can do 6 times Helmets and speeding: 1 point each.......Can do 12 times That will teach them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinneil Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 What a load of hog wash....Points system will not improve driving standards 1 iota. A hell of a lot of drivers here dont even have a license, so points wont change anything. Drive on regardless..... Thats the motto here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RotBenz8888 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 28 minutes ago, webfact said: Drunk driving: 3 points Red lights: 2 points Helmets and speeding: 1 point each Killing 6p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmaxdan Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 29 minutes ago, webfact said: The top policeman responsible for introducing the new driving licence points system has said that the new measures will be up and running in December. If this is enforced then there will hardly be anyone on the roads come January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inactiveposter Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 How many points for NOT HAVING a license??? The mind boggles! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickc Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 6 minutes ago, PatOngo said: Drunk driving: 3 points...……………………..OK, can do 4 times Red lights: 2 points...…………………...……..Can do 6 times Helmets and speeding: 1 point each.......Can do 12 times That will teach them! Yeah, and that's exactly how it will be viewed. Not only that, sooooo many dont even have a licence to begin with... it's only a small fine and then they move on. Will be interesting to see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCC1701A Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 "How much you got for me today?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaidDown Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 I do not see mentioned the most important part of this proposal namely.... Can these points be redeemed for goods at the local 7-11 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RotBenz8888 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Possible to top up one's account in advance? How much is 1p? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesofa Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 6 minutes ago, colinneil said: What a load of hog wash....Points system will not improve driving standards 1 iota. A hell of a lot of drivers here dont even have a license, so points wont change anything. Drive on regardless..... Thats the motto here. Your comment reminds me of the 1961 film Carry On Regardless. Very apt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assurancetourix Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, RotBenz8888 said: Killing 6p But if you are a HiSo or a " do you know who I am " 0 point And as wrote Colinneil, about 40% here don't have a license ( to kill ???? I'm in my James Bond period ) so.... I would like to see policemen and radars and breath control on secondary roads ( red and concrete roads which are so many in Thailand ).. I would like to see policemen controlling licenses and helmets between 7 am and 8 am when children come to school ...and verifiing if passengers and driver have security belts in minibuses ... But that will never come ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCC1701A Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Thailand : Drunk driving: 3 points California: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assurancetourix Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 And bullshit of decision makers, it will reduce the number of deaths on the road? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 39 minutes ago, webfact said: Daily News gave examples of how many points will be deducted: Drunk driving: 3 points Red lights: 2 points Helmets and speeding: 1 point each Drunk driving: 3 points OR 20,000 Baht on the spot Red lights: 2 points Or 5,000 baht on the spot (Not possible because it will be on camera so it will have to be at the local station) Helmets and speeding: 1 point each 1000 baht on the spot. call me a cynic but this is simply to boost the, ahem, economy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RotBenz8888 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 4 minutes ago, Assurancetourix said: But if you are a HiSo or a " do you know who I am " 0 point And as wrote Colinneil, about 40% here don't have a license ( to kill ???? I'm in my James Bond period ) so.... I would like to see policemen and radars and breath control on secondary roads ( red and concrete roads which are so many in Thailand ).. I would like to see policemen controlling licenses and helmets between 7 am and 8 am when children come to school ...and verifiing if passengers and driver have security belts in minibuses ... But that will never come ... Red bull boy got a few points, but he can keep his licence. What date does he walk free?..watch out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinot Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 30% of drivers don't even have driver's licenses. 10 year olds commonly drive scooters. The biggest problem is that there is no law enforcement for moving vehicles. In 10 years I've never seen the police pull over a single person for a moving violation. Points on driver's licenses will do nothing to stop the carnage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunderhill Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Total CRAP as usual, points will do nothing cameras do not stop drivers tailgating, swerving in and out, not looking, giving signals etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezzra Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Many of the local's driving habits derived from the Thai loose takes and interpretations on moral issues and their duty as a citizen and a road user, culture of 'I know someone, i can buy my way out of this' and old time favorite 'My pen Rai, they don't have my current address, It's not my car, the car is not even registers, etc. etc. so until the mindset of the Thai drivers will fundamentally change, no point system will help... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assurancetourix Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, ezzra said: no point system will help... In France we say put the cart in front of the horse ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vadid Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 48 minutes ago, PatOngo said: Drunk driving: 3 points...……………………..OK, can do 4 times Red lights: 2 points...…………………...……..Can do 6 times Helmets and speeding: 1 point each.......Can do 12 times That will teach them! But to be fair most could probably rack that up in a couple of hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweatalot Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 42 minutes ago, Dmaxdan said: If this is enforced then there will hardly be anyone on the roads come January. no the roads will be crowded als always - just nobody has a driving license Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 1 hour ago, mok199 said: Truly enforce laws ,and stop putting on a big show by harassing drivers at check points..Stop focusing on Drama,appearance and optics and start thinking about sustainable results... Umm... I think that's what the jist of the OP is, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraday Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 I think it's great, coz I don't have to be responsible really. As long as I don't get pissed up, & drive more than 3 times a year, I'll be ok. ???? Seriously though. Why not an automatic ban for DUI...? Yea, I suppose it's a good idea, as long as it's enforced & non-payment is followed up. But it won't be. They'll still be a 'roadside payment scheme' available. Three, flipping, points, for drunk driving? Madness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko kok prong Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 My ex wife,who within 2 months of buying her licence,and starting to drive,had 10 speeding tickets, "i not have to pay,my brother and uncle in Police". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishtank Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 No licence Sir? No problem. 400 baht please. Will pay for my lunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin612 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 I see many young fellas like age 12-15 drive motorbikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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