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1 hour ago, Basil B said:

Not sure on the fate of the captain and first officer as they had been held on charges, have they been released also?

 

The EU issue was they had good intelligence the oil was going to Syria, Americas issue is the oil came from Iran, which is as far as I know just an American sanction and not in violation of any EU or UN rules so likely Gibraltar will not respond to the US court order. 

I hope so.

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4 hours ago, Basil B said:

Not sure on the fate of the captain and first officer as they had been held on charges, have they been released also?

 

The EU issue was they had good intelligence the oil was going to Syria, Americas issue is the oil came from Iran, which is as far as I know just an American sanction and not in violation of any EU or UN rules so likely Gibraltar will not respond to the US court order. 

Yes the captain etc have been released without charges. The article I saw that info in, did not include details on wether they went back on board, or not, but one would assume so

 

it will be interesting to see what it does with its cargo, moving forward (assuming the trump doesn’t steal it)

 

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14 minutes ago, jany123 said:

Yes the captain etc have been released without charges. The article I saw that info in, did not include details on wether they went back on board, or not, but one would assume so

 

it will be interesting to see what it does with its cargo, moving forward (assuming the trump doesn’t steal it)

 

I read the captain doesn't want to captain the boat anymore.

Posted
6 minutes ago, stevenl said:

I read the captain doesn't want to captain the boat anymore.

Ah... well that might explain why the vessel is still at anchor.... Iran said it was leaving ASAP, yet more than enough time has passed to warm up the engines and catch the tide.

 

I would assume that it would be hard to quickly replace the captain of a vessel that large.

Posted
3 minutes ago, Catoni said:

  Huh ? ?    They should arrest Obama and throw him into prison.  He sent the Iran mullahs $150,000,000,000.00 .    Yeah. you read that right... not millions....   BILLIONS ! ! ! 

And why did he do that......???

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Posted
5 hours ago, Basil B said:

Not sure on the fate of the captain and first officer as they had been held on charges, have they been released also?

 

The EU issue was they had good intelligence the oil was going to Syria, Americas issue is the oil came from Iran, which is as far as I know just an American sanction and not in violation of any EU or UN rules so likely Gibraltar will not respond to the US court order. 

Royal Marines boarded a large Iranian tanker, the Grace 1 at Gibraltar, claiming it was transporting crude oil to be refined in President Assad’s Syria. This delivery of oil was in breach of EU sanctions. 

    But the U.S. did not mind the seizure.. and verbally supported the action of the British Royal Marines. 

 

The British were in the right to do as they did... and fully ready to release the ship if proven that the oil was NOT going to Addas's Syria. 

Posted
2 hours ago, Emdog said:

"... on the grounds that it had links to Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), which it has designated a terrorist organisation."

If this is the basis, Trump should be arrested as he has done deals financed by IRGC. https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/03/13/donald-trumps-worst-deal

The New Yorker huh  ? ? ?   Do you realise how far left that socialist rag is ? ?  They probably call each other "comrade" there. 

     If anyone needs to be arrested... it's Hillary Clinton, and Obama..  and I would also say.. A.O.C. 

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UPDATE

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/08/15/middleeast/gibraltar-grace-1-oil-tanker-gbr-intl/index.html

  • A seized oil tanker at the center of a standoff between the UK and Iran is free to set sail, despite eleventh-hour efforts by the United States to halt the move to release it.
  • Gibraltar said it had received assurances from Iran and the owners of the oil that, were the tanker to be released, its cargo would not be taken to Syria, which would be in breach of European Union sanctions.
  • "What we found aboard the vessel has confirmed the view that we took was the correct view. We have only released the vessel... when we have been convinced that the vessel is not now going to Syria," he added.

There are several ports accessed from the Mediterranean Sea other than Syria to receive the oil.

Posted
4 minutes ago, Srikcir said:

Everyone now released to sail with the tanker onward into the Mediterranean Sea.

It was intelligence coming from the Americans or perhaps more likely from the Trump administration acting independently of American intelligence agencies. It would not be polite to ignore the Americans; whether "intelligence" was good I think wasn't a consideration.

 

   So you would trust the Iranian Islamic mullahs before believing the EU or Britain or Trump...  

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13 minutes ago, Srikcir said:

UPDATE

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/08/15/middleeast/gibraltar-grace-1-oil-tanker-gbr-intl/index.html

  • A seized oil tanker at the center of a standoff between the UK and Iran is free to set sail, despite eleventh-hour efforts by the United States to halt the move to release it.
  • Gibraltar said it had received assurances from Iran and the owners of the oil that, were the tanker to be released, its cargo would not be taken to Syria, which would be in breach of European Union sanctions.
  • "What we found aboard the vessel has confirmed the view that we took was the correct view. We have only released the vessel... when we have been convinced that the vessel is not now going to Syria," he added.

There are several ports accessed from the Mediterranean Sea other than Syria to receive the oil.

 

"Gibraltar said it had received assurances from Iran and the owners of the oil that, were the tanker to be released, its cargo would not be taken to Syria, which would be in breach of European Union sanctions"

 

But from the very same article:

 

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On Friday, Iran disputed Gibraltar's account and insisted it had made no commitments to secure the tanker's release.
 
"Iran has made no commitment that the ship would not go to Syria because from the early hours of the tanker's detention, we announced that Syria was not its destination and we have upheld the same ... and reiterated that it was nobody's business even if it was Syria," the country's Foreign Ministry spokesman Seyed Abbas Mousavi said according to semi-official Tasnim news.

 

 

Posted
11 minutes ago, Srikcir said:

Everyone now released to sail with the tanker onward into the Mediterranean Sea.

It was intelligence coming from the Americans or perhaps more likely from the Trump administration acting independently of American intelligence agencies. It would not be polite to ignore the Americans; whether "intelligence" was good I think wasn't a consideration.

 

"or perhaps more likely from the Trump administration acting independently of American intelligence agencies."

 

Anything to support this?

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1 hour ago, Morch said:

 

"Gibraltar said it had received assurances from Iran and the owners of the oil that, were the tanker to be released, its cargo would not be taken to Syria, which would be in breach of European Union sanctions"

 

But from the very same article:

 

 

 

As far as I know they have not said where the tanker was going.

 

1 hour ago, Morch said:
On Friday, Iran disputed Gibraltar's account and insisted it had made no commitments to secure the tanker's release.
 
"Iran has made no commitment that the ship would not go to Syria because from the early hours of the tanker's detention, we announced that Syria was not its destination and we have upheld the same ... and reiterated that it was nobody's business even if it was Syria," the country's Foreign Ministry spokesman Seyed Abbas Mousavi said according to semi-official Tasnim news.

I think it is our business... the ship was sailing through Gibraltarian waters (a British overseas territory and at this time Britain is still a member of the EU) suspected to be in breach of EU sanctions on supplying oil to Siria.

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Posted
4 hours ago, Mick501 said:

Th US is easily the least oppressive and least expansionist superpower in history.

 

They get plenty wrong because acting in the best interests of their own people means they have to make tough decisions where it is inevitable other people's noses will be out of joint.  But they are a whole lot more committed to individual rights and freedoms than any of the countries with whom they butt heads.

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Posted
10 hours ago, Basil B said:

Not sure on the fate of the captain and first officer as they had been held on charges, have they been released also?

 

The EU issue was they had good intelligence the oil was going to Syria, Americas issue is the oil came from Iran, which is as far as I know just an American sanction and not in violation of any EU or UN rules so likely Gibraltar will not respond to the US court order. 

I wonder how a US court can pretend to have jurisdiction there and issue court orders ???

And after they will blah blah in all media about "legality" and saying what others do is "illegal" even when it's not their jurisdiction.

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