Brexit may have 'gravest of consequences' for health: UK lawmaker

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Brexit may have 'gravest of consequences' for health: UK lawmaker

Kate Kelland, Health and Science Correspondent

 

A Union Jack flag flutters as Big Ben clock tower is seen behind at the Houses of Parliament in London, Britain September 11, 2019. REUTERS/Toby Melville

 

LONDON Sept 27 (Reuters) - Britain's looming exit from the EU carries real risks that medicines and healthcare supplies will be delayed, the UK's public spending watchdog said on Friday, and an influential lawmaker said a no-deal Brexit may have the "gravest of consequences".

 

While Prime Minister Boris Johnson's government has taken some steps to manage the risks, the National Audit Office (NAO)said in a report, there is still significant work to be done.

 

Lawmaker Meg Hillier, who chairs parliament's public accounts committee, said the report was "deeply concerning".

 

The health ministry "still doesn't know whether all stockpiles are in place", she said, has no idea whether social care providers such as nursing homes for the sick and elderly are ready, and is not sure whether freight capacity needed for medical imports will be in place on time.

 

"If (the) government gets this wrong, it could have the gravest of consequences," Hillier said in a statement about the NAO report. She added that as head of the public accounts committee, she'd already seen "countless examples of deadlines missed and government failing".

 

Johnson has vowed to take Britain out of the EU with or without a deal by Oct. 31 - increasing the chance of a sudden departure that will bring trade tariffs and customs checks with the continent for the first time in decades.

 

The risk is acute for health and social care services, as well as for the pharmaceutical industry, with 37 million packs of medicines imported into Britain from Europe every month.

 

The government's own reasonable worst-case view is that the flow of goods across the channel Europe could be reduced to 40%-60% of normal levels on day one after Brexit.

 

The Department for Health & Social Care has asked medical suppliers to build up stockpiles of medicines and other essentials and has found extra warehouse capacity for them.

 

A six-week stockpile of equipment such as gloves, syringes and other medical supplies is 88% complete, the NAO said, but information on other stockpiles is "incomplete".

 

The Department for Transport last week shortlisted eight companies that could bid to bring in drugs. The contracts would provide capacity equivalent to thousands of trucks per week.

 

But the audit report said the time was short and warned that not all that freight capacity might be available on Oct. 31.

 

The NAO report comes after drugmakers and public health experts have also issued serious warnings about disruption to healthcare and medical services if Britain crashes out of the EU.

 

On Wednesday, the minister in charge of no-deal planning Michael Gove told parliament: "We face undoubted challenges in leaving the European Union, but one area where the greatest amount of mitigation has been taking place is in making sure that we can continue to provide all our constituents and the National Health Service with the drugs and medical supplies they need to maintain good health."

 

(Editing by Giles Elgood)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2019-09-27

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[Loiner]

And they are still at it, even after we have shown them Project Fear does not work.
And they are still pushing the “crashing out” nonsense too.
That’s another Remainer catch phrase that didn’t work.
How do these Reuter’s hysterical propaganda articles keep being repeated on TVF? The last place that anyone should be overly bothered. The Remainers here includes care about themselves and their dwindling FX transfers.
It all won’t make any difference, we still want out.


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[Thingamabob]

Project fear-here we go again. What a load of totally unsubstantiated drivel.

[Libai]

Another part of 'Project Fear'  The UK NHS state that there will not be any problem with medical supplies before or after 'Brexit'.  

 

 

[nauseus]

Project Fear will go on until the end and even after that. So what if it's true? Essential items have to take priority and the edam can stay rotting in Rotterdam. But somehow I don't think that Bayer and Roche will want their exports stuck for too long.  

[sawadee1947]

1 hour ago, Loiner said:

And they are still at it, even after we have shown them Project Fear does not work.
And they are still pushing the “crashing out” nonsense too.
That’s another Remainer catch phrase that didn’t work.
How do these Reuter’s hysterical propaganda articles keep being repeated on TVF? The last place that anyone should be overly bothered. The Remainers here includes care about themselves and their dwindling FX transfers.
It all won’t make any difference, we still want out.


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I'm always delighted to see a clairvoyant here on TV like you. 

Or maybe I'm wrong and you are a highly estimated economist or hopefully not just someone who open mouth with hot air.????????????

[sandyf]

23 minutes ago, Libai said:

Another part of 'Project Fear'  The UK NHS state that there will not be any problem with medical supplies before or after 'Brexit'.  

 

 

Of course it is Project Fear. The government has put in place contingency plans and the NHS has been assured by the government that the measures will be effective. That is fearful in itself.

If the government measures prove to be ineffective it will then become Project Reality and possibly Project Desperation or worse for some.

[billd766]

44 minutes ago, sandyf said:

Of course it is Project Fear. The government has put in place contingency plans and the NHS has been assured by the government that the measures will be effective. That is fearful in itself.

If the government measures prove to be ineffective it will then become Project Reality and possibly Project Desperation or worse for some.

What if the government is correct and their wont be a crisis.

 

You have nothing to fear but fear itself.

 

quote from the OP "

The Department for Health & Social Care has asked medical suppliers to build up stockpiles of medicines and other essentials and has found extra warehouse capacity for them.

A six-week stockpile of equipment such as gloves, syringes and other medical supplies is 88% complete, the NAO said, but information on other stockpiles is "incomplete".

 

Why is the information incomplete? Surely under the last PMs government, (led by Teresa May, a notorious Remainer) had built up reserve stocks? Or had they?

[nkg]

Yea, and verily, the curse of Brexit will surely lead to ten plagues.

 

Water turning to blood, frogs, lice, flies, livestock pestilence, boils, hail, locusts, darkness and the killing of firstborn children.

[Sir Dude]

If anyone has damaged the health of millions it's the remainers and MPs that can't hack democracy and spout bile all the time. If the losers had accepted the democratic result then none of this nonsense for the last 3 years would have happened and we would have moved on with everyone being more mentally and physically healthy. Problem is, every moron and his brother or sister thinks their opinion is more important than everyone else's ... hence the chaos and hate that has ensued to engulf a previously once reasonable society. The West is paralyzed, divided and leaderless and our external enemies know it. People need to get over themselves and move on and play by the tried and tested rules that founded our privileged societies and made them what they are. We need to go back to a time when decisions were made by elected sitting governments and if they screwed up they were voted out at a GE. Now it's just pure Kafka from the offended and selfishly intolerant that can't compromise. Only trouble is waiting down the road. History will judge this part of time very harshly indeed in my opinion ... if historians are even allowed to exist in the future.

[Loiner]

I'm always delighted to see a clairvoyant here on TV like you. 
Or maybe I'm wrong and you are a highly estimated economist or hopefully not just someone who open mouth with hot air.[emoji23][emoji23][emoji48]

You’re just wrong that’s all.

Are you afraid that vital medicines bound for Ireland will be stuck at the ports? Well that won’t be Calais or Dover because we are ready. Dublin Port - who knows, who cares?

[sawadee1947]

56 minutes ago, Loiner said:

You’re just wrong that’s all.

Are you afraid that vital medicines bound for Ireland will be stuck at the ports? Well that won’t be Calais or Dover because we are ready. Dublin Port - who knows, who cares?

Laddie, the difference is that we have a supply chain but you(UK) are cut off from everything, even brain ????????

[lungbing]

For Reuters information it is not Big Ben's clock tower in the photo.  It's now called The Queen Elizabeth Tower.  Big Ben is the bell inside the tower, not the clock itself.

[Bruntoid]

3 hours ago, sawadee1947 said:

I'm always delighted to see a clairvoyant here on TV like you. 

Or maybe I'm wrong and you are a highly estimated economist or hopefully not just someone who open mouth with hot air.????????????

Can we start placing bets yet ? 

[Bruntoid]

1 hour ago, Sir Dude said:

If anyone has damaged the health of millions it's the remainers and MPs that can't hack democracy and spout bile all the time. If the losers had accepted the democratic result then none of this nonsense for the last 3 years would have happened and we would have moved on with everyone being more mentally and physically healthy. Problem is, every moron and his brother or sister thinks their opinion is more important than everyone else's ... hence the chaos and hate that has ensued to engulf a previously once reasonable society. The West is paralyzed, divided and leaderless and our external enemies know it. People need to get over themselves and move on and play by the tried and tested rules that founded our privileged societies and made them what they are. We need to go back to a time when decisions were made by elected sitting governments and if they screwed up they were voted out at a GE. Now it's just pure Kafka from the offended and selfishly intolerant that can't compromise. Only trouble is waiting down the road. History will judge this part of time very harshly indeed in my opinion ... if historians are even allowed to exist in the future.

Spout bile ? - remind us who murdered Jo Cox just for doing her job - a leaver I believe ? 

[Bruntoid]

4 hours ago, Thingamabob said:

Project fear-here we go again. What a load of totally unsubstantiated drivel.

So give us the real stats ????

[Bruntoid]

1 hour ago, Loiner said:

You’re just wrong that’s all.

Are you afraid that vital medicines bound for Ireland will be stuck at the ports? Well that won’t be Calais or Dover because we are ready. Dublin Port - who knows, who cares?

How do you know ? Tell us how you know this is wrong please without frothing 

 

You don’t care if medical supplies don’t get through to sick people in Ireland ? Leavers, such lovely people 

 

So Calais ? Hmmm Macron will be busting a gonad to make sure it all runs smoothly for the brits - you know Calais is in France right ? 

 

 

[Sir Dude]

14 minutes ago, Bruntoid said:

Spout bile ? - remind us who murdered Jo Cox just for doing her job - a leaver I believe ? 

Nice cherry picking of one sentence whilst avoiding the rest of the content that is true ... come back when you have something interesting to say and address the post with a response that resembles a decent answer to the whole post other than a pithy vague smart-<deleted> one-liner fashionable troll post that gives nothing really to the conversation.

Edited September 27, 2019 by Sir Dude

[wreckingcountry]

Who gets fed up with Thai visa selecting same biased anti Brexit so called “news story” ! Thankfully folk don’t get their news from such !


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[Denim]

13 hours ago, webfact said:

Brexit may have 'gravest of consequences' for health:

 As a person who would have voted remain had I been there I don't find this surprising or scare mongering.

 

It is a fact that if Brexit takes place all the undersea steel cables fastening the UK to the continent will be unfastened and within a week the UK will have sunk beneath the North Sea.

 

Not scare mongering.....scientific speculation ....same same fact.

 

Since I cannot get back in time I have ordered my 84 year old mother an inflatable dingy and automatic pump ( too old to inflate manually ) from Lazada and am hoping it gets to her in time to save her from the deluge.

 

Those unprepared will have health issues ......drowning to be specific.

[sawadee1947]

3 hours ago, Bruntoid said:

Can we start placing bets yet ? 

Sure 

[loong]

21 hours ago, webfact said:

The Department for Transport last week shortlisted eight companies that could bid to bring in drugs. The contracts would provide capacity equivalent to thousands of trucks per week.

 

But the audit report said the time was short and warned that not all that freight capacity might be available on Oct. 31.

Am I looking at this too simply?

What is wrong with using the trucks that are shipping the drugs now?

[thaibeachlovers]

Clutching, and straws springs to mind. The remainers must be really desperate to resort to the fear spiel.

[fishtank]

15 hours ago, Thingamabob said:

Project fear-here we go again. What a load of totally unsubstantiated drivel.

Project reality.

Something the right wing extremists cannot seem to grasp.

[kingdong]

10 hours ago, Bruntoid said:

Spout bile ? - remind us who murdered Jo Cox just for doing her job - a leaver I believe ? 

Didn,t think even a leaver could sink that low

[Chazar]

14 hours ago, sawadee1947 said:

I'm always delighted to see a clairvoyant here on TV like you. 

Or maybe I'm wrong and you are a highly estimated economist or hopefully not just someone who open mouth with hot air.????????????

remember the  millenial  bug, we  were  all  gonna die then too?

[Chazar]

10 hours ago, Denim said:

 As a person who would have voted remain had I been there I don't find this surprising or scare mongering.

 

It is a fact that if Brexit takes place all the undersea steel cables fastening the UK to the continent will be unfastened and within a week the UK will have sunk beneath the North Sea.

 

Not scare mongering.....scientific speculation ....same same fact.

 

Since I cannot get back in time I have ordered my 84 year old mother an inflatable dingy and automatic pump ( too old to inflate manually ) from Lazada and am hoping it gets to her in time to save her from the deluge.

 

Those unprepared will have health issues ......drowning to be specific.

all survivors  will be harpooned, new  EU  rule  just launched

[sandyf]

14 hours ago, billd766 said:

What if the government is correct and their wont be a crisis.

It is a big "What If" Bill, how much faith would you put in the government?

 

It would be irresponsible for anyone to say there is no risk and when it comes to health creating risk is not really the best approach to take.

[nauseus]

5 hours ago, kingdong said:

Didn,t think even a leaver could sink that low

Some of them even live down there.

[nauseus]

5 hours ago, Chazar said:

all survivors  will be harpooned, new  EU  rule  just launched

It's called the "Thar She Blows" directive.